THE OFFICIAL MIAMI HEAT SUMMER of 2010 Thread.

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  1. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Exactly Sec. I would have more respect for Cleveland if they say, stay here or take less somepalce else LeBron. We gave you everything you wanetd for 7 years and a $100 million offer. If it's not enough, take a hike.

    I'd expect Riley to do the same if Wade was trying to leave. The only guy who can maybe get it done is Bosh since he may not have a real preference of teams and can give TOR 3 or 4 options to work something out with, then you get a bidding war going.
     
  2. finfansince72

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    I think there are Bulls fans out there that think they can get Wade and LeBron in sign and trades lol. It is ridiculous, you trade a player that spits in your face and on your city for a alright player that makes good money? No thanks, if I'm Cleveland I let LeBron walk before a sign and trade, I'd rather have any team I root for just shake hands and say goodbye before I took back a Deng for Lebron type deal.

    There are some rare instances where a sign and trade would make a little sense, for example say the team that gets the number one overall trades that and a player for a LeBron but then why would a guy like LeBron want to go to a team that sucks?

    I'm kind of curious as to the rumors that they were trying to package Calipari and LeBron to teams? That cannot be true.
     
  3. Fin-Omenal

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    The media is making it sound like LeBron going to NY is strictly a publicity thing, I dont think it would be hard to surround LeBron with BETTER talent than the current Cavs team within a year.

    I got this fear that the Nets get the #1 pick draft Wall and that entices LeBron to go there and open up the Brooklyn Nets.
     
  4. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And the award for the most inane LeBron article goes to this guy...

    Apparently, LeBron must go to NY because of the (wait for it) bagels and pizza!!!! Not to mention Wicked and Billy Elliott on Broadway.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jeff_pearlman/05/18/lebron.ny/index.html?eref=sihp

    I've been to NYC. I like NYC, but the arrogance of its citizens never ceases to amaze. The look of shock and disbelief when someone with a choice would choose to live elsewhere. That not everyone agrees that NYC is the greates city on Earth.

    Just something funny for a Tuesday.
     
  5. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I once had to explain to a New Yorker why I thought there were better Seafood restaurants in Miami. The look of incredulity on his face when I explained that the species of fish they were eating mostly came from OUR waters was priceless.

    but no......the best Bahamian Conch dishes are in New York...although i can take a boat to the bahamas in the next 30 minutes.
     
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    Thier are Deli's ready to rename their sandwiches.....gotta love NY.
     
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    Well lucky for you the discussion didnt go to who has the best pizza. :tongue2:
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    That SI.com article seems to say that LeBron shouldn't care about winning and should just pick the town with the most stuff to do between games and in the offseason.

    El oh el.

    I'll never understand the love for that paper-thin stuff that passes for pizza up in Noo Yawk.
     
  9. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Herbet's in Doral is as good a Deli as ANY in NYC.



    New Yorker heads exploding in 5...4....3...2....
     
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  10. Section126

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    Chicago wins that one.



    angry fist waving in 5....4....3....2...
     
  11. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Okay...NYC is #1 in what?

    1. Obnoxiousness
    2. Black Snow
    3. most expensive escorts
    4. police brutality protests
    5. overrated basketball
     
  12. Stitches

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    Much better than NY pizza.
     
  13. schmolioot

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    I have to give the edge to NYC pizza. But for such a great place that is the greatest city in the world, there sure are an awful lot of ex-New Yorkers sitting enxt to me at the Fins games rooting for the Jets or at the Heat games cheering for the Knicks and calling into Miami sports radio talking about the NY teams. Somehow, they wind up down here.

    And Nobu on South beach is the same as Nobu in Manhattan
     
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  14. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Overpriced living quarters? (outside of Japan of course)
     
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  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The stuff I can buy at the Publix deli and make at home is better than anything I can get in a New York deli.

    Fixed. :up:
     
  16. Fin-Omenal

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    I dont live in NYC i live in Columbus, OH....

    Fans in Miami are a little fickle though, always lotsa empty seats no matter what sport...
     
  17. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    that one too.

    My favorite statement is this "NEW YORK IS THE MECCA OF BASKETBALL"

    really? then why does the pro team and the college teams have such few championships?
     
  18. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    You'd think NC would have a greater claim to the Mecca of Basketball.
     
  19. Section126

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    Dolphins sell out every game and the Heat when winning is a HOT *** ticket. No excuses for the marlins.

    I wish you would have been here trying to get a ticket when SHAQ was here.
     
  20. Section126

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    They import alot of talent....

    I would say Chicago / Midwest is the Mecca of basketball.
     
  21. Stitches

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    Right, I'm just saying greater claim than NY (due to winning and all), not the greatest claim.
     
  22. Fin-Omenal

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    If the Dolphins sell out every game then their are lotsa folks wasting money because they dont attend.

    I love the Phins but I always see lotsa orange seats on gameday.
     
  23. Section126

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    The Dolphins sell out every game. and have sold out every game for the last 12 years or so. I am not coming off the mountain with the tablets on this one.
     
  24. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    If the seats were colored aqua there wouldn't be a single complaint about attendance. Orange seats stand out more than the people seated in them.

    You can see what real attendance issues looks like after halftime kickoff. Half the people in the stadium are still waiting in line to use what passes for restrooms, or standing in line waiting for the concessions people to actually work at a pace slightly faster than "glacial."
     
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  25. schmolioot

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

    There is the 2009/10 NBA attendance figure for every team. The Heat comes in at 15th, playing to 90% capacity during the season. Not too shabby at all for an average team.

    Take a deeper look and you'll see that Boston (where all the real fans live according to Bill Simmons, even though he has long since left for LA) only drew about 14,000 more fans than the Heat over the course of the season. NY is 5th but only drew about 77K more than the Heat.

    Even deeper, Philly ranks 26th out of 30 in attendance. I thought Philly was some rabid fan base. Most impressive, is Chicago. I think they are #1 every year, even following an average to below average team. Dallas also very impressive.

    Point being, Miami fans get crapped on quite a bit when the numbers simply don't support it. When the great NY, with 20 million in the tri-state area can't manage 100% capacity for the Knicks I don't want to hear how we're the fair weather fans
     
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  26. schmolioot

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    Don't ever try to give them change after finding out your total Des. It takes them two calculators and an abacus to figure it out.
     
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  27. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance

    Just for fun, here's the NFL attendance for lat year. The fins come in 19th, but outdrew Pittsburgh. Tougher to make judgments because stadium sizes vary widely in the NFL, unlike the NBA where the average arena is between 17-20K
     
  28. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Don't remind me. :lol:

    Nice find on the attendance figures. You know what's most impressive about that whole list? Portland. Being #3 in a league with "storied" teams in massive markets like New York, Boston, and LA is pretty damn impressive.

    Portland deserves their professional sports franchise more than Buffalo does.
     
  29. schmolioot

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    Agreed. And I have no doubt that Seattle would be outdrawing most of these teams if they weren't screwed
     
  30. Section126

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    Okay...in less than an hour...root root for NJ to win the LOTTO.

    If it doesn't happen.....root for a team with a damn good PG already...that might become available due to Wall being a consensus #1.

    Would you do Flynn straight up for Beasley? interesting.
     
  31. PhiNomina

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    Doesn't the Percent column show attendance vs capacity? Because the Phins are 27th in that stat.
     
  32. schmolioot

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    I assume so. Which is why the numbers are sort of misleading because the Fins outdrew Pittsburgh in terms of raw numbers.

    The size of NFL stadiums varies too greatly. Percentage capacity is probably the ebst way to figure it. What it tells us is that JRS is about 10K seats too big.
     
  33. Boik14

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    To be fair the Knicks were at 98.7% capacity in a year when no one in NY really thought they could be anything more then an 8 seed and even that was pushing it. During the 90's and early 2000's we had one of the longest sellout streaks in NBA history. Since the Layden and Isiah regimes messed up this franchise its been rough to say the least.

    Well, thats a pretty silly article then. But NYC is the greatest city on Earth. :yes:

    *Head explodes* :headwall::smackhead:

    1. Stuff to do - seriously, if you cant find something to entertain you in NYC you really should just jump off a bridge because there's no hope
    2. Definitely #1 in overpriced places to live (houses, apartments etc - very true stitches)

    Announcers make that statement and it has no relation to college or pro basketball. The statement references all the great players that have come from the city and gone on to great pro careers rather then any one team specifically. Some of those players played in this city and some did not but announcers use it out of context in almost any game that is telecast with a NY team, college or pro.
     
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  34. Section126

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    Ira Winderman pushing the line that Andre Igoudala will be available now due to the Sixers lotto win.

    A Wade/Iggy/Bosh threesome is a LOCK for a championship.

    Unload all of our chips for Iggy while signing Bosh and Wade? sign me up.

    then again...you get down to it..Iggy is just an older, more experienced Rudy Gay. Why not get the 24 year old?
     
  35. schmolioot

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    Only reason is that you're a lock to get Iggy through a trade while you'd have to sweat out Memphis for a week following Gay signing the offer sheet, during which you could lose out on some other targets.

    I'd absolutely sign up for a Wade/Bosh(Amare)/Iggy corp. I would even consider taking on Dalambert in that scenario, if it were possible under the cap.
     
  36. Section126

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  38. FinNasty

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    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Swing guard...some scoring punch off the bench....6'-6" is fine.
     
  40. FinNasty

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    Drafting a bench player? Why not try to get a guy you think can be or become a starter?
     
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