The Official Miami Heat Return to the Playoffs Thread.

That would make "the plan" a bit tenous.

If J O'Neal led the Eastern Conference in rebounding ala JP in sacks, then you'd have a better point, and even then, they signed JT and Wake "just to be sure".

Oh it will, unless the cap pennies the Heat have been saving up are carried forward.

Assuming he signed a long term deal that is, he could sign a shorter contract and retest the market once the economy recovers (granted, it may or may not recover).

"the plan", no matter the organization, is mythical Sect, no matter the sport, unless a organization can make the players they have play better, improvement via acquisition is sort of like unicorns and leprachauns, plenty said about them, they rarely show up.

 

Actually I'm not "arguing for the sake of.." I have a pecuilar distaste for "the plan" arrangements, to me the fans are being rooked and the FO is underperforming.

I would not trade anyone from the nucleus, that is not how winning teams are built, what Riley needs to do IMO is use his 30+ years in the NBA and find an undervalued player (be it Iverson or G Hill or whomever) and watch that player outperform their last couple of seasons or fill their role perfectly.

 

quotes from d-wade in today's herald:


on 2010:

''Just because there are a lot of free agents doesn't mean we're going to get one,'' Wade said. ``It doesn't mean in 2010 we're going to automatically get one of the big names. There are risks involved. With other teams getting better, we don't know what's going to happen, positive or negative. If we can be proactive and get someone now, then let's get proactive.''


on beasley at the 3:

``I don't want to question his ability, but he will have to work his tail off if he wants to do it. He can score at any position. But it's defense. You've got guys at the [small forward] position that are super quick. Beasley is slow-footed.''


http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/basketball/story/1131785.html


also, i think the heat has the option for jones' contract in 2010. imo, we decline and let him become a free agent.

 

thing is, i agree with wade and zo on this one. i don't think beasley will be effective at the three and we saw him last year at the four.

if he really wanted to, beasley could be effective at the three.

my guess though is that beasley rather get high and watch spongebob than "work his tail off."


if we sign a.i., i might consider trading beasley/haslem/filler for bosh this year (assuming bosh agrees to the extension).

 

Hmm...that may have been a misread FN, Wade is out in public speaking meaning Beasley is not that good in Wade's opinion.

Salary Cap supposedly is down to 50 to 53 milly in 2010, and that is the optimistic view. all of the penny pinching and "the plan" may not work out the way people thought it would..

Who could see that one coming...

 

Thats the shortest answer he's ever given.

 

According to John Hollinger we're #1 in terms of cap space in 2010, baby!

We need Wade to extend his contract, though, so we'll have his $17 million cap figure for the 2010-2011 season. Otherwise, if he opts out and signs a new deal, his cap figure is going to jump up by $5-6 million on next year's cap. He's going to have to make a sacrifice. We'll have enough money to sign Bosh or Amare to the max regardless, but I read from Hollinger that if Wade does this and we sign another player to a deal starting at $15 million per season, we'll still have a REMAINING $8-9 million to spend. That's scary, folks. Tyson Chandler money. Josh Howard / Joe Johnson money. Maybe use that money to re-sign Haslem and/or J.O. without going into the tax.

 

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27361

 

Utah's counter offer of Haslem, Wright, and Daequan Cook for Boozer and C.J. Miles is now being seriously considered.

Take my source for what it's worth, but it's the same source that included Moon / Banks in the J.O. / Marion trade before the media.

And yes he works for the Sun Sentinel.

 

BTW - I am almost sure this deal is going to go down. Riles is going to drag it along as far as possible to try and keep Cook... until another team i.e. Chicago steps up and makes an enticing offer, which they've yet to do. Dwyane Wade wants Boozer. Not only is Boozer a beast down low offensively, but he's also a very close friend of Wade. We can get Boozer without parting with Michael Beasley or Mario Chalmers. That alone is bank. Why the hell wouldn't you do it? Daequan Cook cannot be a deal breaker for Carlos Boozer, IMO. That would piss me off... probably Dwyane Wade as well.

I also think that keeping J.O. is also important in any deal we do that doesn't include a starting caliber center. Not only do I believe in J.O. in his final chance at a contract year, but he's a huge trade chip.

G - Chalmers / Beverly / Quinn (Iverson?)
G - Wade / Miles
F - Beasley / Jones / Moon
F - Boozer / Beasley
C - O'Neal / Magloire / Anthony

This line up contends now. Wade extends now.

 

On second thought, I think I start James Jones over Beasley.

Bench is looking kind of thin, and JJ's defense and shooting fits in perfectly with that line up. Beasley would still get 30-35 MPG.

 

Bosh can play C. Imagine this lineup in 2010.

G Chalmers
G Wade
SF Beasley
PF Boozer
C Bosh

Im drooling...

 

Ira can be a dick at times. You see his interviews on SunSports during the season?

 

Not Ira Winderman. Most of these "insiders" have their own "insiders"... Ira is a regular person with no insight at all. The guy I know feeds Ira his information. And whenever he has nothing, you know what he reports? Rumors from the RealGM forums. I honestly have no idea how he's lucky enough to have the major voice he has as a Miami Heat beat writer. Micky Arison hates him. Pat Riley hates him. Dwyane Wade hates him. Alonzo Mourning CANNOT STAND him. So on and so forth.

And as for his "edge" I'm going to guess it's because he was recently put in his place, in person, by Dwyane Wade himself. He completely told him off because Ira wouldn't stop harassing him at a restaurant.

 

Bosh has openly stated that he doesn't want to play center full time although he'll play the position situational, i.e. Dwyane Wade's stance as a PG / SG. I doubt we'd be able to keep Boozer and sign Bosh, though. I don't like that fit, honestly. Gotta get a defensive presence in there next to either of the two.

My dream for next summer is Bosh or Amare (or Boozer IF he's rented and it works out well, I personally do not like Carlos Boozer but I'd gladly take him for what's being reported) along with a Tyson Chandler.

 

im with you on that 100%

 

You have to love Pat Riley, though. Whenever something big like this is rumored for quite a bit and eventually goes down do you guys ever hear any type of major competition going on? Pat Riley is always in the drivers seat. I love it.

There isn't another interesting team mentioned in any of the articles that have the contracts (without giving up too much) to make this happen without a willing third party. We're the ONLY team that can get this done.

 

Exciting idea to even speak on though... I love our position.

Getting Boozer is so ideal for this team right now. We get ourselves a proven 20/10+ guy to keep Wade happy for the upcoming season, and not only that, but he's a free agent next summer so it's our choice whether or not we want it to effect our cap flexibility for the "big plan"

 

Hey I have that G-Shock...

 

i'm a big tyson chandler fan and wish riles was looking more into trading for him than boozer. also, i wanted chandler instead of oneal before that trade too.

for what it's worth, trading cook would shed more salary for 2010. not that cook makes that much, but we'd have more money to spend.

 

If we get Boozer...signing AI isnt that bad of an idea...without him though....I dont know.