***The Official Miami Dolphins 2020 3-Day Draft Thread***

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BumrushBumrushsubscriber
Apr 24, 2020, 07:56 AM

"The Guy wrote:

I'll tell you what -- Tua at #5 would've looked a whole lot better with Laremy Tunsil and Minkah Fitzpatrick than he does with these other two guys. Right now the trades are looking pretty dumb.

You're a modern day Nostradamus.

Surfs Up 99Surfs Up 99forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 07:56 AM

"The Guy wrote:

I'll tell you what -- Tua at #5 would've looked a whole lot better with Laremy Tunsil and Minkah Fitzpatrick than he does with these other two guys. Right now the trades are looking pretty dumb.

No doubt, but I wouldn't call it dumb. Don't we still have another 1st and a 2nd to use in 2021? We have to add those in too. Besides, Fitzpatrick didn't want to play here, so it's sort of a moot point about him, and Tunsil said that he would have made that trade himself. It's easy to criticize, but time will tell.

Leadership isn't getting people to line up behind you; it is getting them to join you.

Sometimes the journey is as important as the destination.

The little things matter. Winning starts by not beating ourselves.

Mornings are for coffee and contemplation.

Team Tua.

Miami Dolphins Homer!

The GuyThe Guyforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:01 AM

"Surfs Up 99 wrote:

No doubt, but I wouldn't call it dumb. Don't we still have another 1st and a 2nd to use in 2021? We have to add those in too. Besides, Fitzpatrick didn't want to play here, so it's sort of a moot point about him, and Tunsil said that he would have made that trade himself. It's easy to criticize, but time will tell.

When you add those picks you'll have other unknowns. The picks would've been good to use as ammo to move up for a QB, but since that wasn't needed, replacing high-quality young players with draft picks isn't a smart result.

AGAGuyNamedAlexforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:03 AM

"Surfs Up 99 wrote:

No doubt, but I wouldn't call it dumb. Don't we still have another 1st and a 2nd to use in 2021? We have to add those in too. Besides, Fitzpatrick didn't want to play here, so it's sort of a moot point about him, and Tunsil said that he would have made that trade himself. It's easy to criticize, but time will tell.

I think if you want to look at it from a purely talent standpoint, we ended up way behind so far on those trades.

That said, the Texans could implode and we have their pick. There still still time to come out on top.

Also, like you said Fitz basically put his own foot out the door.

Whether or not Jackson can be a decent LT/RT, and I think he can be but will have growing pains, will determine whether we won or lost that trade. Along with our picks next year.

BumrushBumrushsubscriber
Apr 24, 2020, 08:03 AM

"The Guy wrote:

When you add those picks you'll have other unknowns. The picks would've been good to use as ammo to move up for a QB, but since that wasn't needed, replacing high-quality young players with draft picks isn't a smart result.

So you'd feel better if Miami got bluffed and traded up? Is that your argument?

Surfs Up 99Surfs Up 99forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:07 AM

"The Guy wrote:

When you add those picks you'll have other unknowns. The picks would've been good to use as ammo to move up for a QB, but since that wasn't needed, replacing high-quality young players with draft picks isn't a smart result.

Huh? Hindsight is 20/20. Too bad Fitzpatrick was being a punk. If you want to blame someone, blame him for forcing a trade.

Leadership isn't getting people to line up behind you; it is getting them to join you.

Sometimes the journey is as important as the destination.

The little things matter. Winning starts by not beating ourselves.

Mornings are for coffee and contemplation.

Team Tua.

Miami Dolphins Homer!

Surfs Up 99Surfs Up 99forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:17 AM

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

I think if you want to look at it from a purely talent standpoint, we ended up way behind so far on those trades.

That said, the Texans could implode and we have their pick. There still still time to come out on top.

Also, like you said Fitz basically put his own foot out the door.

Whether or not Jackson can be a decent LT/RT, and I think he can be but will have growing pains, will determine whether we won or lost that trade. Along with our picks next year.

It's important to keep things in context. We made the Tunsil trade because it was too good to pass up and we wanted to acquire more picks to trade up if need be. I think we did try and trade up for Burrow and Cinci wasn't budging. So, we went with Tua and used our extra pick on Jackson. Yes, from a pure talent standpoint, right now Tunsil is better than Jackson. No one is arguing that, but there are benefits to signing a 1st round pick over having to sign Tunsil to the highest LT contract. We took a gamble and tried to give ourselves some ammo to get the QB of the future. We missed on Burrow, but got a good QB in Tua, without having to trade up and giving away valuable resources. Days ago, people were saying we would have to trade to #3 to get Tua. We didn't have too. We still kept our picks and people are still complaining.

Leadership isn't getting people to line up behind you; it is getting them to join you.

Sometimes the journey is as important as the destination.

The little things matter. Winning starts by not beating ourselves.

Mornings are for coffee and contemplation.

Team Tua.

Miami Dolphins Homer!

mlb1399mlb1399forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:20 AM

Would love to see us go after Josh Jones in round 2 and then address DL, RB or S with our other 2nd rounder.

The GuyThe Guyforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:20 AM

"Bumrush wrote:

So you'd feel better if Miami got bluffed and traded up? Is that your argument?

I'd feel better if the picks had been used to get Burrow. That was the original calculation, to use them to get the top QB in the draft.

Surfs Up 99Surfs Up 99forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:26 AM

"The Guy wrote:

I'd feel better if the picks had been used to get Burrow. That was the original calculation, to use them to get the top QB in the draft.

It takes two to tango. Cinci didn't want to dance. No matter how much you want to, you can't force a team to trade with you. It doesn't make sense to hold this against the Dolphins. We went with plan B. It's gonna be alright.

Leadership isn't getting people to line up behind you; it is getting them to join you.

Sometimes the journey is as important as the destination.

The little things matter. Winning starts by not beating ourselves.

Mornings are for coffee and contemplation.

Team Tua.

Miami Dolphins Homer!

BumrushBumrushsubscriber
Apr 24, 2020, 08:34 AM

"The Guy wrote:

I'd feel better if the picks had been used to get Burrow. That was the original calculation, to use them to get the top QB in the draft.

How will you feel if Tua turns out better than Burrow?

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:48 AM

We were the richest team going into the drsft and i feel like we did not win. I would grade 20 teams easily above us on day 1.

mlb1399mlb1399forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 08:54 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

We were the richest team going into the drsft and i feel like we did not win. I would grade 20 teams easily above us on day 1.

I feel the same way. I don’t think we got one day 1 starter, added a pick at a position where we have more money invested than any team in the NFL already. Jackson’s got potential and Noah I guess will help us move on from Howard and clear cap space down the road.

AUAurantiacoFanNew Member
Apr 24, 2020, 09:00 AM

You guys made a grand slam draft pick with Igbinoghene. He can play S in addition to CB. I bet you he will be All Pro by year 3. In the meantime, he should be an outstanding returner for you as well. Just an absolutely outstanding pick that I would say was the steal of the first round (if it is ever acceptable to say a "steal" was made in the first round...which it is probably the wrong word to use but hopefully you get my drift).

Good luck with the Tua pick. I guess he could be the best player in the entire draft if he remains healthy. He seems like an outstanding person, so I hope he stays healthy and you guys benefit for years to come.

I know nothing about the USC kid, but the draft gurus make you question why Miami took him at that 18th spot. Maybe your folks know what they are doing...but with Igbinoghene and if Tua stays healthy, I would be excited to be you as fans.

Surfs Up 99Surfs Up 99forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:02 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

We were the richest team going into the drsft and i feel like we did not win. I would grade 20 teams easily above us on day 1.

Fair assessment. However, we had to draft for need. Maybe next year we can go BPA all the way. We have a lot of holes to fill, so in a way, I am glad we still have 12 pics left.

Leadership isn't getting people to line up behind you; it is getting them to join you.

Sometimes the journey is as important as the destination.

The little things matter. Winning starts by not beating ourselves.

Mornings are for coffee and contemplation.

Team Tua.

Miami Dolphins Homer!

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:08 AM

"hitman8 wrote:

Riddick is an idiot, these guys on TV are generally well paid bots, they are paid to cheerlead and pump up every pick.

They kept saying Andrew Thomas was a reach which had me confused as hell... you can tell most of those analyst and a lot of guys on this board dont watch a game of college football other than Alabama..

The best VALUE pick of the night, goes to the Broncos. To get the best receiver in the draft, and possibly best wr prospect since Julio Jones was drafted, in the teens, is just incredible.. it was baffling that Ruggs who i like btw, went ahead of him. Jerry Jeudy should have been a Top 5 pick and as I said 2 days ago, 5 years from now when we play a re-draft he may very well be at #1. He has Larry Fitzgerald/Julio Jones type of aura..

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:10 AM

By the way i hope the Chiefs arent comfortable at the top of their division because Drew Lock is coming big time.

The GuyThe Guyforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:19 AM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

By the way i hope the Chiefs arent comfortable at the top of their division because Drew Lock is coming big time.

Wait till you see the Chiefs with the added dimension of the running back out of LSU.

The GuyThe Guyforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:21 AM

"Bumrush wrote:

How will you feel if Tua turns out better than Burrow?

Much better.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:37 AM

My wish list for the first pick on the second round..

In no order order:
JK Dobbins
Aj Espenesa
Raekwon Davis
Justin Madubuike

if we can get Prince Wanogho or Damien Lewis in late second early third via trade id be happy with that too.

USArmyFinFanUSArmyFinFanforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:37 AM

"hitman8 wrote:

LOL, I dare you to find me one single board from any site or analyst anywhere that had Noah what's his name ranked ahead of christian fulton, jeff gladney, or trevon diggs.

Hint: there was not a single board or mock that had Noah going in the 1st round or ranked ahead of these guys, in most boards he was also ranked behind Jaylon Johnson and Bryce Hall.

This was a reach and a bad pick however way you want to look at it. The guy is a converted wide reciever with only two years of corner experience for christ sake and we take him in the first round?

Unbelievable...:headwall:

Easy, The Miami Dolphins

ripper1961ripper1961forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:42 AM

I am not super excited about our first round but it's over time to move on to round two. I believe we have twelve picks left. Let's go Dolphins!!!!!!!!!!

Surfs Up 99Surfs Up 99forum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:54 AM

Here's one for ya. I didn't see this before the draft.

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Leadership isn't getting people to line up behind you; it is getting them to join you.

Sometimes the journey is as important as the destination.

The little things matter. Winning starts by not beating ourselves.

Mornings are for coffee and contemplation.

Team Tua.

Miami Dolphins Homer!

SceetoSceetoforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:54 AM

It's weird because, for decades, I have always been a huge homer. I have always supported and have tried to find the good in every Phin move. I truly do not like this draft. The first and most important pick, Tua, I really dislike. Along with the injury history and I how I think it will be a problem moving forward at some point. I am not crazy about his personality. He seems strange and I know i am alone on this point, but I don't like this whole god and family thing. It really kind of nauseates me at this point. Enough with that BS. I do not think he will physically last too long in the league. There are several pure football concerns as well. Oh well. Too funked out to type more to further and better explain my point. Maybe another time.

Phin McCoolPhin McCoolforum_veteran
Apr 24, 2020, 09:55 AM

"ripper1961 wrote:

I believe we have twelve picks left. Let's go Dolphins!!!!!!!!!!

What????? You mean we have to go through all of this again? Tonight????? :jump:

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