****The Official 2017-18 NBA Thread****
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The refs missed some calls, but that wasn't the reason they lost, and anyone saying otherwise is kind of ridiculous. The fact that Clay Travis says it, makes the argument all the less believable. Charles Barkley, who was actively rooting for the Rockets, didn't mention the officiating once after the game. The Rockets choked/ran out of gas, whatever you want to call it, and the Warriors caught fire. Ariza killed them, they kept shooting threes when they weren't falling, and Harden couldn't take over (and cost them badly down the stretch with hero ball and turnovers).
The Rockets had a great run, and you should be happy about their season. I think LeBron could be heading that way in the offseason, which probably gives them the title next year, at least.
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Just for shiggles. The people quoted above later on in the game after those tweets. Doesn't sound like any of them feel that the refs caused the Rockets to lose the game:
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Had a buddy just send this video to me. ALL 9 MISSED CALLS BY THE REFS TONIGHT (20 points worth)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=aYveyAb6mvU;t=8
Hey, I am sure those 20 points wouldn't have mattered. Who needs 20 points?
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And that is part of the game, it always has been. Calls change in the postseason. Back in the heat runs, Lebron and Wade never got calls. Look the officiating isn’t the reason they lost. They were calling foul calls on the dubs left and right. No, the reason they lost was Paul wasn’t on the floor to take over the game in crunch time and stop them from missing 27 threes in a row. He would have run a credible offense. That’s the bad part of just having a couple of superstars. One gets hurt and you’re done. But hey, that’s way farther than the 2018 heat with no superstars made it.
I'm sure most people here know more about basketball than Reggie Miller and Chris Webber. Webber and Miller have no clue about what a foul is.
Again, props to those 2 guys for calling out the b.s. I am sure Webber was having flashbacks from that Kings/Lakers screw job. This was on that level, for sure.
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"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
I'm sure most people here know more about basketball than Reggie Miller and Chris Webber. Webber and Miller have no clue about what a foul is.
Again, props to those 2 guys for calling out the b.s. I am sure Webber was having flashbacks from that Kings/Lakers screw job. This was on that level, for sure.
Or maybe jacking up 44 threes and only hitting 7 had something to do with it?
I guess Harden, Miller, and Webber can all get together this offseason and chat about not winning titles and rub eachothers backs in a comforting manner.
We could also talk about the fouls they did call and how Klay Thompson was taken out of commission for most of the 1st half after picking up 3 ticky tack fouls in the first 5 minutes...
"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
Had a buddy just send this video to me. ALL 9 MISSED CALLS BY THE REFS TONIGHT (20 points worth)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=aYveyAb6mvU;t=8
Hey, I am sure those 20 points wouldn't have mattered. Who needs 20 points?
20 points would matter. But that's the assumption that they didn't miss a single call the other way, which is obviously not the case.
"phinswolverinesrockets wrote:
I'm sure most people here know more about basketball than Reggie Miller and Chris Webber. Webber and Miller have no clue about what a foul is.
Again, props to those 2 guys for calling out the b.s. I am sure Webber was having flashbacks from that Kings/Lakers screw job. This was on that level, for sure.
You're taking comments from them about missed calls and extrapolating that to mean that they feel the Rockets lost because of the refs, which wasn't the case at all. Neither commentator suggested that.
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Well season over for me. The playoffs were enjoyable to watch this year. Im not signing up to watch the same series four times in a row.
Let’s just all agree that having CP3 games 6-7 would’ve made a difference and now the Warriors will walk to another title.
At least LeBron haters and 14 year old suburban kids will be happy.
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
"Fin-O wrote:
Let’s just all agree that having CP3 games 6-7 would’ve made a difference and now the Warriors will walk to another title.
At least LeBron haters and 14 year old suburban kids will be happy.
CP3 would have definitely made a difference, but then again, the Dubs can only play who is on the floor. It isn’t like it was a guarantee with CP3. The Dubs have two stone-cold assassins and Durant to help pad a lead.
"Fin-O wrote:
Let’s just all agree that having CP3 games 6-7 would’ve made a difference and now the Warriors will walk to another title.
At least LeBron haters and 14 year old suburban kids will be happy.
Whether it is Houston, Golden State or the Utah Jazz, cleveland doesnt win the Finals.
"Vertical Limit wrote:
Whether it is Houston, Golden State or the Utah Jazz, cleveland doesnt win the Finals.
Why stop there?
I'd go N.O, MN as well.
Lebron is the greatest basketball player ever, but that never has and never will overcome a team where the talent is so lopsided.
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
"Vertical Limit wrote:
Whether it is Houston, Golden State or the Utah Jazz, cleveland doesnt win the Finals.
He’d beat Utah. He wouldn’t beat Houston or GSW. Probably not N.O. when healthy either.
He barely got by Boston and the Pacers. Highly doubt they beat the Jazz that performed in the first round.
"CaribPhin wrote:
Some brave soul sat through the game and the thought of rabid Rockets fans to compile a comprehensive list (w/video!) of all of the calls that went wrong against BOTH teams.
The verdict is that Rockets fans are crybabies who blame the refs when they lose and don't credit them for the egregiously bad bailout fouls they receive game-by-game.
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Didn't watch this game because once Paul was out, to me it was inevitable.
However we have a plethora of NBA stars, commentators and analysts saying the refereeing was one sided.
To me? It doesn't erase the fact they missed 30+ 3's, but I also wouldn't say the criticism of the officials is limited to simply Rockets fan's.
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
I haven’t seen a plethora of NBA stars, commentators, etc., saying it was one-sided. The fact that they went 7-44 ended any other valid criticism, and the NBA stars, commentators shut up at that point. You live by the 3, you die by the 3, and they really did.
"eltos_lightfoot wrote:
I haven’t seen a plethora of NBA stars, commentators, etc., saying it was one-sided. The fact that they went 7-44 ended any other valid criticism, and the NBA stars, commentators shut up at that point. You live by the 3, you die by the 3, and they really did.
Twitter was blowing up and I've heard it on literally every sports show I've listened too.
But you're right...shootimg 7-44 kind of alleviates the right to complain about the ref's. But I do think it likely was very Warrior friendly, just wasn't the reason they lost.
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
I don’t have much interest in watching the finals. Feels like I’m watching repeats of a show.
Houston vs Cleveland would’ve been great.
"Fin-O wrote:
Let’s just all agree that having CP3 games 6-7 would’ve made a difference and now the Warriors will walk to another title.
At least LeBron haters and 14 year old suburban kids will be happy.
Definitely. Having Iggy could have changed things as well, though, for GSW. I would have liked to see both teams fully healthy. At the end of the day, the Warriors are the more talented team (probably the most talented in NBA history), but I still question their mental toughness. If they're firing on all cylinders, I don't think any team currently constructed beats them. But that mental softness hurts them. If Paul were there, would GSW have been able to come back from those big deficits? That's going to be the question Rockets fans have to be asking themselves.
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Shit happens to every team. Hell i wouldve loved to have Bosh healthy in the playoffs when we had to face Indiana and the Celtics, we lost our home court advantage against the pacers when he went down with th ab strain. It is what it is! No excuses still won a championship.
Anyone else notice the extreme fortune in the Warrior playoff runs?
They do not win vs the Cavs that first year with a healthy Love/Kyrie. To me that is obvious.
Was that the same year they didnt face the teams starting PG through the entire playoffs??
Down 23 at home in the 3rd quarter and Zaza takes out Kawhi, done rest of series.
Down 3-2 and the Rockets lose HOF PG for the last two games.
Its as if they aren't already the most talented team Ive ever seen, yet they have to catch break after break each year to boot.
FUCK the Golden State Patriots and their MF momma's!
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
Houston missed 27 straight 3’s last night in the second half. That’s why they lost. No other explanation or excuse is needed. What I want to know is why the hell were they shooting so many when they were killing GSW in the paint and midrange in the first half? That’s crappy coaching. As I said...DumbToni.
"Boik14 wrote:
Houston missed 27 straight 3’s last night in the second half. That’s why they lost. No other explanation or excuse is needed. What I want to know is why the hell were they shooting so many when they were killing GSW in the paint and midrange in the first half? That’s crappy coaching. As I said...DumbToni.
Honesty same goes for Boston.
They kept getting Al Horford down low on guys like Korver and JR, then totally abandoned him in the second half to take bad jumpers.
"The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that the people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied"
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