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Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Section126, Jul 1, 2016.

  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    In terms of purely facilitating and passing the ball with instincts and precision, if he were a Rondo (even before Rondo had a shot) then I'd be all about him. I'm just not seeing it yet. I kind of picked at Tyler Johnson because of physical shortcomings as a two-guard, but as a point guard that started to make a lot more sense to me. Now I'm picking on Briante because of those physical shortcomings as a point guard, because he's even smaller than TJ.

    Actually a guy I like to potentially play PG is the guy I've been talking about McGruder, which would be interesting since he's been a small forward in college and in the NBA. But he seems to have the handle, instincts and speed on the dribble to think about it. And he adds the dimension of being able to shoot the three ball, finish at the rim, etc.

    The Heat seem to prefer to run the offense through guys that have a history of being shooting guards or forwards. They've had Justise Winslow doing it in summer league two years in a row. They converted Josh Richardson that way. They converted Tyler Johnson. Goran Dragic is a combo guy that way as was Mario Chalmers. Especially if we lose Tyler Johnson, I'd like to think about McGruder as the next experiment that way. Especially since I think Richardson would best be served being a straight up shooting guard.
     
  2. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Anyone else just waiting on Omar to declare Wade is leaving?
     
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  3. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Everyday since free agency started. That would mean Wade is definitely staying.
     
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  4. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Michael Carrera from South Carolina has my attention. Probably just a summer league guy but man does that dude hustle around. Good frame though not necessarily good height. Not sure what his scoring capabilities are, shot 40+ percent from three his last year at South Carolina.

    Didn't realize Rodney McGruder played with Heat summer league last year. He didn't look ready then. A year in their D-League program, he looks a lot better now.
     
  5. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Brian Windhorst reiterated on ESPN that the Cavs are not interested in Wade because he's "past his prime".
     
  6. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Lol dont tell that to some of the heat fans here that think hes 25
     
  7. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    Good! Eff Cleveland and eff that lard *** Windhorst. Fat pig.
     
  8. Desides

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    Were the four years of Heatles bad or good for the league?
     
  9. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Has he ever heard of Father Prime?

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  10. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    Heatles were fun bc everyone hated them and hate watched them. GS is well liked and already broke the win record and a title recently. There just isn't much they can do that is compelling.

    They're pretty much gonna keep doing what they were doing before but with less competition now.
     
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  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    So, yes.

    People aren't going to hate-watch GS because of Durant? Really?
     
  12. rafael

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    Those years are big reason for that huge TV contract which brought about the big salary cap jumps. It was good for the league. And just like in those years, people are now pissed at GSW/Durant but will watch.
     
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  13. MikeHoncho

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    That's a serious question?

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  14. MikeHoncho

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    Fly high D-Wade. Godspeed.

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  15. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    The Nuggets have offered Wade a 2 year $50m contract. Marc Stein still expects Wade to stay in Miami.
     
  16. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Read LeBatard's column

    LeBron is to blame for all of this. He is a cancer who continues to infect this organization even after he screwed us.

    Henry Thomas is just as bad.

    I'm sorry Wade got screwed by people he should've been able to trust but that's no longer our problem. Take the deal or go to Denver.
     
  17. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    More than 50 actually.

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  18. Rouk

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    man if Florida biggest sports star ever leaves over 5 mil im done with sports for awhile i don't even have words for this situation
     
  19. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    At 35, I'm not so sure Wade wants to spend two years on a team that isn't going anywhere. We're not going anywhere either but we have pieces.

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  20. CaribPhin

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    Our best case scenario moving forward is Wade re-signs, McBob is traded, we sign Westbrook outright next offseason, and Dragic is traded after this season. Unless you have a commitment from Westbrook on signing an extension, I don't move Winslow for a rental Westbrook.

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  21. Desides

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    I'm using a rhetorical question to make a point. The Heatles were amazing for the NBA.
     
  22. Serpico Jones

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    David Aldridge says LeBron is not taking a pay cut for Wade under any circumstances.
     
  23. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So to take a break from Wade-fest. What would everyone think about a Chalmer reunion? Makes a lot of sense.
     
  24. Stringer Bell

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    This is a ridiculous narrative through an entirely pro-organization lens. How in the world is Wade screwed? The idea that Dwyane Wade is holding contracts over the teams head isn't logical. It would be an extremely dumb negotiating tactic to say he is owed for the past. The negotiations are dictated by current market forces.

    The LeBron stuff is just flat out embarrassing. LeBron has nothing to do with what is happening now. Had Wade made an extra $10M in the past wouldn't impact what other teams are offering him this offseason.

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  25. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    No thanks, we are in rebuild mode. Let Briante get dragic backup minutes
     
  26. Stringer Bell

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    I dont agree. The dynamic for GS has no changed completely. They go from a team people wanted to see win to a team that wanted to see lose. We have seen them crumble under pressure and adversity, and now that will increase 10x.

    The Miami Heat embraced pressure and adversity. They were mentally strong. The GS Warriors have not shown the same mental toughness.

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  27. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If Wade wasn't upset about past contracts there would be no problem today.

    That's his whole shtick. He sacrificed so now we owe him. If this were simply about his market he would leave. It's not. He doesn't want to leave but he also doesn't want to help the organization.

    And that attitude absolutely comes from LeBron. These problems did not exist until he left.
     
  28. Stringer Bell

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    No it isnt. His argument is that he is worth $50M on the open market, so Miami should pay him that much. The difference in current offers would exist regardless of what he made in the past.

    Ridiculous. Players do this all the time. That attitude is a fundamental aspect of economic theory - people will do what maximizes their earnings. That is what Wade did before, and what he is doing now. People are just upset that what might maximize Wades earnings now is not in line with the Heat winning titles.

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  29. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Huh? We were the 3 seed last year, and could be even better if healthy.
     
  30. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Rebuild mode, we only have four players signed and Joe Johnson and Deng who were huge contributors after the all star break is gone. Deng arguably our MVP last year.

    Time to give PT to the rookies/second year guys and develop whiteside until Wade and Bosh are gone.
     
  31. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm sorry, but people are going crazy right now. Deng was at his best after Bosh went down. Johnson's help was overstated. And are we going to pretend Whiteside, Winslow, and JRich won't develop? This is a really good team if healthy.
     
  32. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Wade is meetig the Nuggets tomorrow in NY. Tim Reynolds is saying things between Wade and the Heat are very bad, to the point that neither side wants anything to do with the other
     
  33. Desides

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    I think there's a rule that says you can't sign a player for two years after you trade him.
     
  34. Finfangirl

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    Bye, don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya. I love Wade....he's arguably one of greatest athletes to play in Miami, but i don't believe a guy who's entering the twilight of his career should be handcuffing the organization that has fed his family for over 10 years. The heat aren't going to win a championship next year, so if he chooses to go chase rings in Cleveland or die a slow death in Denver....that's his choice. I'll be sad, but I'll get over it.

    Plus Mr metrosexual will look awesome in those rainbow throwbacks the nuggets wear.
     
  35. Serpico Jones

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    It's going to be very sad watching Wade rotting on a horrible team in Denver. I really hope he stays but it seems like Riley is calling his bluff.
     
  36. sports24/7

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    MUCH better than Cleveland or Chicago.
     
  37. Bjorn

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    Lmfao, I'm torn on the subject. I live in Denver, but only for two years now. I love what the Nuggets are doing, but I'm a loyal Heat fan. I actually think it would be the best of both worlds if Wade left. It rips the bandaid off the Heat so they can move forward with out feeling like they are handied to someone who is obviously declining. I don't know about you guys but it was a travesty in my eyes how Shaquille ended his career. On the other hand the Nuggets are so young and talented, they could afford to pay a mentor with a little gas in the tank. It would allow the Heat to move forward and the Nuggets to possibly get into the playoffs. I would hate to see him leave Miami, but with the animosity obviously building, maybe it's time.
     
  38. dolfan32323

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    I may be wrong but I think it's a year from the date of trade.
     
  39. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    How much time do we have left to match TJ? I am starting to think we should, if Wade leaves we would still have a max slot even with TJ here..
     
  40. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Nuggets offer is 2 year 52 million

    Oh and those "canceled" meetings that was reported by Windhorst earlier, is wrong. Wade is having meetings witth multiple teams tomorrow in New York, not just Denver.
     

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