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  1. CaribPhin

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  2. CaribPhin

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    Shared Alert -via @ESPN - NBA: SG Monta Ellis agrees to 4-year, $44M deal to join Pacers - Stein, Broussard; 18.9 ppg with Mavericks last season*-via ESPN http://es.pn/app

    Shumpert got $40 million. Perspective is a *****.

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  3. Serpico Jones

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    Knicks are meeting with Deandre Jordan.
     
  4. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    So, in answer to the article's headline question...the Knicks are meeting with DeAndre Jordan. There you have it. Question answered.
     
  5. Section126

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    Iman Shumpert might have the worst contract in the NBA?
     
  6. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Doesn't Shumpert's contract hurt the Heat's chances of pulling in a good bargain shooter? Seems to me like any/all of them get to point to Shumpert's deal and start making Money Manziel signs with their hands.
     
  7. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    You know it's bad when David Aldridge is slapping your hands.

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  8. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It could, but eventually the money will dry up and there will be guys without big offers looking to win.
     
  9. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Is that an attraction for the Heat? Not trying to denigrate them or anything but they missed the playoffs, had a losing record, picked 10th overall...I would doubt players are looking at the Heat as their ticket deep into the playoffs. They'll like the city as usual. They'll like the organization for the most part because I think the Heat have earned that. But the chance to win? Not so sure about that.
     
  10. Section126

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    Nah...

    Marco Bellinilli is out there and I think you can get him for the 3.4 MLE. Hell..Lebron's personal caddy (JJ) is a great shooter, and he's a min. player.
     
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    The EC Finals is "deep into the playoffs".

    This Heat team has a chance to be really good.
     
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  12. ckparrothead

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    How many non-Heat people that aren't elbow deep in analytics will objectively agree with that after watching the Heat take a losing record and miss a playoff spot in a terrible Eastern Conference by fading at the end?

    For this off season I think we are what we are. Heat culture and the city definitely count for something but outside of that, it's about the $$$.
     
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    Actually a lot of them. The ESPN Intelligentsia have already taken to placing the Heat in the #2 seed.

    Simple Win Shares. With the games they lost due to injury, they under-achieved by exactly 2 games.

    As presently constituted, they are gonna be a team that projects into 50+ wins easily. That is good enough for a #2 seed.
     
  14. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Also, we only had one bad year.

    It's not like we're the Lakers or Knicks that have had sustained bad runs for multiple eyars
     
  15. Samphin

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    Ed Davis to Portland for 3 years/20 Million.

    That's a bargain given the deals being thrown around. I liked Ed last year in L.A. Happy to see him get paid.
     
  16. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Alright fair enough. I'm not sure I imagine free agent players are thinking that way but we'll see.
     
  17. Section126

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    3,936

    Those are the minutes played in a NBA regular season (not counting OT)

    20,000

    That is the baseline for minutes you have to find for your roster in a NBA Regular Season.

    Ideally, you want 6 players to take at least 12,000 of those 20k minutes.

    A) You take the "Wins Produced" per 48 minutes, and extrapolate them onto the allotted minutes for each player. Do the same for Win Shares. Average out both. There is your number.

    B) Repeat this for every player on the roster. You have to project rookies.

    C) Add up the wins...that is your projected win total.

    This system usually gets me within 4 wins (variance) either way usually for 26 of 30 teams. There are anomaly's. The Heat was one of them. Their projection was 44 to 47 wins. That's WITHOUT Hassan Whiteside, who is a player that effects 8 to 10 wins. WITHOUT Goran Dragic that effects 5 to 7. Without Winslow, McBob...etc...you get the point.
     
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  18. ckparrothead

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    This isn't about thinking the Heat are the Knicks or Lakers. This was about a comment that a player would come to Miami specifically "to win". To me, you could go to two dozen teams "to win". I don't see the Heat being special in this way.
     
  19. schmolioot

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    Suns trade Marcus Morris, Reggie Bullock and Danny Granger to Detroit for a 2020 2nd rounder

    Simply a salary dump. Maybe they're really more in on LMA than anybody thought

    And lol Danny Granger.
     
  20. rafael

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    I don't know. The big complaint about the Laker's presentation by Aldridge was that they didn't talk about analytics. That was also why he praised Houston's presentation. And it's not the first time I've heard of that complaint by players. My guess, and that's all it is , is that players do consider stuff like analytics when making their choices. Perhaps not more than money or where they want to live, but it may be in the top three for players.
     
  21. Serpico Jones

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    Lakers are hoping to get a second meeting with LaMarcus Aldridge. Looks like he's going to go on a few free agent visits.
     
  22. Desides

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    More precisely: the complaint was that the presentation spent too much time on non-basketball topics, and that the analytics that were presented were not very compelling (read: the Lakers are bad at basketball.)
     
  23. schmolioot

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    Woj now reporting that the Lakers WILL get a 2nd meeting with LMA today.

    Tells me that he would probably really like to go there and is looking for a reason.

    Keep Kobe out of the room fellas.
     
  24. Serpico Jones

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    Heat are trying to set up a meeting with LaMarcus Aldrige according to Woj!
     
  25. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I tell ya, if the Lakers end up with LMA, there is probably some stuff they could do to make room for Deandre as well.

    all of a sudden they'd be good again
     
  26. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What the ffing eff?

    How???

    Why???

    Bosh S&T?

    Wade S&T?

    What the hell????
     
  27. Section126

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    pat riley is happening.
     
  28. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    But why?

    How??

    I'm incredibly excited and confused
     
  29. Sumlit

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    What?!
     
  30. Section126

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    Simple arithmetic....

    Dump:

    Deng
    McBob
    Rio
    Bird

    You can sign Aldridge.
     
  31. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Holy moley

    But then what do you do?

    Put Whiteside on the bench?
     
  32. ckparrothead

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    Wut
     
  33. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And Pat Riley is in LA now, "on vacation"
     
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  34. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Where does he play though?
     
  35. Serpico Jones

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    Ira Winderman says Riley's trip to Los Angeles wasn't a vacation. He went for free agency business.
     
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  36. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Barry Jackson and Tim Reynolds confirming

    The only thing I can think of is you do the Sec deal plus Whiteside.

    That would tempt Portland greatly

    And you pay a proven guy $20 million rather than an unproven and volatile Whiteside.

    I think this is an extreme longshot but I get it from a short term, win now view.

    Justise moves into the starting 3 spot and you fill the rest best you can.

    But if this happens

    Bosh
    LMA
    Justise
    Wade
    Goran

    We will get to at least a Game 7 against the cavs
     
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    Confirmed. Pat Riley is in LA to meet with Aldridge.
     
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    Yes.
     
  39. Sumlit

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    I guess you can bring Whiteside off the bench yeah.
     
  40. ckparrothead

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    Giving up on Hassan Whiteside that easily???
     

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