Wait the Heat are trying to run more this year? Does that fit w Wade and Bosh? I never thought of Bosh as a guy who loves to get in transition.
Lakers trade back with SAC for cousins and give them randle. Sac takes russell or jahlil. We trade dwade mcbob and napier/chalmers and #10 to LA for #6 and get hezonja.
No thanks thats way too much just for Hezonja. i rather he signs outright to the Lakers than give up all those players just for Hezonja. This is the NBA draft not the NFL draft. #6 isnt worth gutting your talent plus star for an overseas star no matter how good he is. Napier McRoberts and Wade is worth more than just the sixth pick.
I would do it. Dragon/TJ/chalmers Hezonja or Winslow/chalmers/baby dragon Dang/Ennis Bosh/Beasley/UD Whiteside/Upshaw/Andersen I'd prefer to send them Andersen and keep mcbob.
Nuggets open to trading back according to their GM. Theyve been making lots of calls and have a group of 5-6 players on their board that they feel are graded about the same.
I'm not saying he made his share of money! I'm saying Fin-O's goofy point about THIS SPECIFIC CONTRACT BEING NEGOTIATED RIGHT NOW being the one to set Wade's grandkids is stupid. THEY ARE ALREADY SET. That's all I'm saying! It was in Fin-O's post, I quoted it when writing mine. That was the entire context of what I said!
They're at 7 right? Would do mcbob and napier real quick for that but i doubt Denver would do it. Getting in front of Detroit would be awesome.
Hezonja has as much upside as anyone in this draft. That trade isn't going to happen, but I would not be completely against it. You can't look at it as the 6th pick, but rather who you are getting. The 6th pick in many drafts isn't anything special, but Hezonja could very well be. He has star potential. I'd rather not include Napier because I still think there's upside there, but if you're losing Wade anyway and all you have to do is add McRoberts and possibly Chalmers? That would be an easy decision for me because not only do you get Hezonja, but you clear tons of cap space. I'd also do it if it were Winslow instead of Hezonja.
I really hope Riley is taking a look at that situation. Winslow or Hezonja will most likely be there at 7.
Just speculating but I think we will trade Wade to Cleveland for Haywood's expiring and their 24th pick and Shumpert. I think Wade is done here and that is the only way I can see him getting paid in Cleveland. And even though I dont like Cleveland and Shumpert is useless except for defense.. Im all for it.
Why are you all for it? I have no interest in helping Cleveland at all, let alone for that package of garbage.
I'm all for the new era of Heat basketball. I believe in the talent we have and getting an extra draft pick to add another young talent from this deep draft is nice as well. Cleveland isn't going to win ****, you can stack all the players on that team theyre not going to win. Wade's health is deteriorating and he is 34 in January. Let him get paid elsewhere while we work on the new brand of Heat basketball. I dont have much faith in getting a top free agent in 2016 but I have faith that we can build a very deep team that isnt relying on 1 or 2 players to carry the load.
Chris Broussard is a moron. Great report jackass. "We are being told that Miami is lowballing Wade right now". Scintillating report. If you want a journalism degree, you can get one for free in Oberlin College, pretty sure all you need is a driver's license to get in that school. And it guarantees you job placement in Bristol.
Did his "sauces" tell him this? I mean, what is "lowballing? If Wade wants $20 million per year and we're offering $12, is that really lowballing?
If there are teams out there willing to pay him $20M, then $12M is a low-ball. That said, why shouldn't Miami low-ball him?
What teams are willing to pay him 20 million lol i havent seen one that is willing to pay him that much.
ESPN reporting that Heat trying to trade Chalmers and Bird to lower tax burden as a precursor to Wade deal. Neither guy has a ton of value but they are expiring contracts. Maybe a couple 2nd rounders
Chalmers and Birdman make a combined $9.3 million and the Cavs' Haywood contract is worth $10.5 million, right? Doubt those two teams would work together but that's a good trade.
I believe Sec said they're meeting Tuesday, which is tomorrow. I'll go with his info until proven otherwise. The Bird/Chalmers news actually makes sense. Per Winderman, if those guys get traded, they can give Wade the 1 year max without additional taxes. Also, Skolnick is on 790 right now and he stated that Wade wants a bump this year and is then willing to go lower the next two years. If all that is true, this should be no problem and there will have been a lot of consternation for nothing
I don't see any way Riley trades Wade to Cleveland. No chance. I also don't think that trade matches up cap-wise.
The more I hear about these little leaks that Dwyane Wade is going here or there, the more you see Wade's dad wearing some other team's shirt, the more you see Gabrielle Union favorite this tweet or that, him saying when I "was" in Miami on national television, etc...and I fully believe all of this is extremely calculated by the way...the less I believe he's actually leaving Miami. You don't go hard core posturing a team that you don't think you're going to end up agreeing with. You go hard core posturing a team that you think you'll come to agreement with but you want to make sure it's as favorable an agreement to you as you can. The more leverage they have on you, the harder you try and posture them into not using that leverage. Right now he looks like a guy who isn't ultimately ready to move away from Miami but he's trying like hell not to let Miami know that.
I agree it's posturing. It's not a coincidence that the Lakers are one of the teams that has the max available and that's where we hear that there is "mutual interest", or Cleveland where it would chap Riley's *** the most. Also, the Bird/Chalmers thing is interesting because it sounds great in theory, but those are both rotation players that would have to be replaced. That could mean Kaminsky and Turner could be in play at 10. It also means you had better be sure Dragic is re-signing or else Napier is your starting (and only) PG next year. Ideally, the return you get would somehow replace them. I doubt Chalmers will be attractive for anyone, but Bird probably would be.
That right there has been my feeling all along. I'll wait to see what happens before I complain about Wade or the FO. And if Wade were to leave (which I believe unlikely) then I'll wish him luck and welcome him back to the organization at any time.
I completely 100% agree but can't stop thinking Haywood's non-guaranteed deal worth $10.5million is a DAMN nice asset for the Heat to clear space for Wade and Chalmers / Birdman are damn nice additions to the Cavs.
I don't think that deal gives the Heat much room anyway, though. They still wouldn't have much space left unless Dragic and/or Deng leave. And even then, I doubt they use that room because they're trying to save up for next year. Either way, Riley isn't trading Wade to the Cavs unless the Heat are getting Irving back. And obviously that isn't happening. He won't hand Wade over to Gilbert and LeBron for simply a little bit of cap relief.
Oh for sure - to be clear I just meant a Haywood for Chalmers/Birdman swap. Wade isn't going anywhere. I'm sure he's somewhere patting himself on the back right now for all these social media posts, etc, tho.
Ah, in that case it might make some sense. I would imagine they'd want the Cavs pick as well, and I don't know that the Cavs would have any real reservations there.
I think this will end with the Heat giving Wade the one year max followed by a smaller contract next year.
The max this year of $23 million and then a 2 year $24 million deal basically makes Wade whole for his sacrifices and leaves the team some flexibility especially since that 2 year deal can be structured in such a way to keep the 2016 salary lower. I think you'll know exactly what's going to happen by Friday morning. If you find out that Bird and Rio were traded for 2nd rounders, then Wade staying is a lock.
This scenario just makes so much more sense than any other. It's really hard to see it going any other way. But you guys already had little depth and losing Chalmers and Birdman is going to make that even worse, right? Chalmers played the 2nd most minutes of any Heat last year, and Anderson the 7th most.
We were looking at a wing in the draft anyway, to replace Chalmers and eventually Wade. Bird is 37 and was breaking down big time last year. Maybe we draft a Cauley-Stein. Regardless, a power rotation of Whiteside-Bosh-McBob should be more than sufficient if all are relatively healthy.
Plus we have Napier and TJ developing. Khem Birch is another guy they've invested some time in. Bird and Rio just won't be huge losses. Rio was a net negative for the most part last year and his mental lapses were one thing when he was on a team with LeBron.
