****The Official 2013-14 NBA Thread****

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  1. MikeHoncho

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    What part of "washed up" is so hard for you to comprehend?
     
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  2. rafael

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    As much as I like the Beard, I would say that Wade is still the better all-around player. But I value defense as much as points. And I value all-around good play more than being great in areas and having holes in others. IMO Wade's all-around ability has always been under-rated. Even when he was considered a top 5 player by everybody, I felt that he was behind others who were valued too much for their points and not docked enough for other parts of their game (Kobe). And now I feel that people are exaggerating how much time Wade has missed and not really noticing how well he's played this year b/c the point totals are lower and he has fewer highlight plays. I think they see his knee issues as a permanent disability rather than as a something that can be worked through and be fully recovered from. This is his most efficient scoring year ever and I think his D is more consistent than it has ever been. Arguably, he's playing as well this year as he ever has. Whatever minimal decrease there is in athleticism has been made up by smarter play. I don't agree that Wade in 2016 being an after-thought is a given. I could easily see the big three being very much the same potent force then as they are now. IMO the window for the big three as they stand now going at least through 2016 (assuming they all stay, which I see as likely). My guess is that Wade starts to decline about 2017, but Lebron will still be in his prime and Bosh will probably be better than he is now. And at that point I could see Wade taking a lesser role (and salary) and Riley finding another big third piece.
     
  3. Fin-Omenal

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    JJ Hickson emberessed Wade tonight.
     
  4. Desides

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    Go home, you're drunk.
     
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  5. Fin-Omenal

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    Don't be a sucka fool.
     
  6. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He might be right...who talks like that :lol:
     
  7. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    shhhh...they'll hear you.
     
  8. MikeHoncho

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    Wait a minute. Are you telling me that DWade had a bad game tonight?

    He's clearly a terrible player then.
     
  9. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Yeah this entire team has had a bad 6 day span. Missing shots we always hit, and you can tell from the body language that they don't quite trust the shots either.
     
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    I may have had a lil too much Dos XXX Amber, but I always enjoy making Heat fan angry. (Just looked up stats seen Hickson played well, figured isolating Wade as the culprit was the right thing to do) :up:
     
  11. Fin-Omenal

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    Knicks undefeated since Phil signing, coincidence? Not likely.
     
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  12. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    and...GUESS who didn't get the sarcasm.....

    Yep...Nailed it!
     
  13. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    and he was actually not that bad in that game.....his numbers in that game exceeded Harden's overall season in Eff. Diff. But of course....Harden is...Better...LOL
     
  14. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    I am happy for Knicks fans......

    The NBA is not the same without those obnoxious douchebags.

    I haven't done my .."KNUCKS GAWN BAWL ON YO HEATS, CuZ MELO GAWN WERK BRON...." schtick in almost a full year.
     
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  15. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    So Section wtf is up with us? We've blown a great chance to take home court if not just in the East, in the NBA as a whole. Everything looks off sync.
     
  16. Fin-Omenal

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    Harden vs Wade today....will it prove anything? Guess that depends on ones agenda.
     
  17. Boik14

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    I just miss more season ending floaters :)

    In all seriousness I'm very curious to see what Phil does to counter Bron-wade-Bosh. Even if it means waiting til 2016 for Durant. ...
     
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  18. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Is that the new thing? Durant to NY?

    Honestly I can never see that happening in ten million years.
     
  19. Fin-Omenal

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    Only Lebron can have 22points and shoot over 60% and be having kind of an off game. Congrats you pudwackers, you bribed the best player of our lifetime to come to your bandwagon arse city.
     
  20. Silverphin

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    We didn't bribe him. We made him a promise and followed through.
     
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  21. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Finally a win. Needed that one badly.
     
  22. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Its not a thing. But he is a FA in 2016. Lets say for arguments sake that the Knicks manage to resign Anthony but strike out on Love or Marc Gasol. They could conceivably do what the LAL did this year and sign a bunch of players to 1 year holdover contracts and go after Durant the following summer. Not saying it will happen and as a matter of fact I doubt it will. But Durant could also say OKC isnt making a financial investment to keep the players around him (James Harden) and force the teams hands (though I doubt too that he would do that because it would seem out of character for KD). There are circumstances under which it COULD be a possibility. And IM not putting anything past Phil Jackson because its noted he loves his stars.

    The team that should feel most threatened? Golden State. Phil Jackson has said publicly Steph Curry fits the triangle better then any player out there.
     
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  23. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    Lebron definitely does that. There are games where you think man he just didn't have it tonight. Then you look at the box score and he is one assist or rebound from a triple double
     
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  24. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    When's Curry's contract come up?

    I said before the one thing Phil definitely gives you is gravitas
     
  25. Fin-Omenal

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    People from Ohio are just great. ..

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
     
  26. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    Lol my family in Ohio tell me that every time I see them...
     
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  27. Not So Fast

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  28. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Curry's contract ends after 2017.
     
  29. Section126

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    A Simple Test...

    WHO Had a better game?

    Dwyane Wade: 34 Minutes 24 pts., 10-15 FG 67%, 4-7 FT, 3 Reb, 7 Assists, 2 Stl, 1 Blk, 1 PF, 1 TO, +/- +17
    James Harden: 43 Minutes 30 pts., 7-16 FG 43%, 11-12 FT, 3 Reb, 1 Assists, 0 Stl, 0 Blk, 3 PF, 4 TO, +/- -7


    Well..Harden has to eventually get tired of being made a fool of by Wade. Good thing that Harden gets so many Bull**** calls and he can shoot Free Throws.

    and of course...with that:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/sg

    Wade is back to his familiar position of #1 in PER among SG's.
     
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  30. Section126

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    Oh..and Lebron was okay....but he wasn't Lebron ..really. His shot is off, and he is being careless with the ball.

    Patrick Beverly needs somebody to punch him in the face.
     
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  31. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Why? Beverly is awesome.
     
  32. Section126

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    He is a dirty player. Ask Russell Westbook.

    In fact..look at his two fouls on lebron.
     
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  33. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    He made some DIRTY plays in yesterday's game alone.
     
  34. Section126

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    That first one where he intentionally slid under lebron, was malicious. That's how players break wrists from having to brace their falls.

    The second one, was very slick.

    When you FOUL HARD. You go at THE BALL with great force to Dislodge it from the players handle. If you BREAK a guys wrists...fine...but that is not what beverly did. He was much slicker than that. He went at the ball as if to block the shot and then gave up on the block (because him blocking lebrons layup attempt was ridiculous) and then pulled down on his shoulder when he was in the air. NOT a Basketball play, and a simple attempt to injure, once again.

    The guy is a scumbag. He is a good defender, he doesn't need to be a dirty player.
     
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  35. Section126

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    What was impressive about that game yesterday was that it was vintage Heat.

    People wonder if the heat can switch on their maniacal defense when needed.....well....

    With 4:26 left in the game...Beverly hit a three point shot. The Rockets with their high powered offense, DID NOT SCORE AGAIN (till two garbage time FT's with 6 seconds left)
     
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  36. Fin-Omenal

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    Ray Allen.
     
  37. MikeHoncho

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    That last one he went for the ball on the rejection though.
     
  38. Section126

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    Old basketball trick. attempt a block on a much taller player and when you can't reach the ball because of height...you pull the player down.
     
  39. Section126

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    He was awesome yesterday. Did you see that 3/4 court pass by Wade to the corner for Ray Allen?
     
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    I did not.
     
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