****The Official 2013-14 NBA Thread****

Ginobli is a flopper who is terrible at selling flops. You can't be OMG IM HURT and then the next second be okay.


Hey Manu step your game up son!

 

Monty McCutcheon and TONY BROTHERS on the crew tonight.

Have your tums ready gentlemen. It's going to be a bumpy ride

 

Im not worried about refs. I'm more interested in how SA plays on our floor aftwr we just played them so tightly on theirs.

 

Over/under on the number of call-induced technical fouls given?

 

475

Over under on Lebron dong dropping on Tony Parker tonight defensively?

 

Called it

 

Called that fine minutes afterwards, it was bad....but it worked.

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Does anyone think Bosh, Wade, and Lebron will really take another pay cut to add Carmelo Anthony to the team?

 

No Melo is going to Miami........but I think D-Wade does to give LBJ a pay raise, Bosh stays the same.....plus if Chalmers leaves, that is going to save them money, albeit create a void.....

Miami has to go exclusively Guard in the draft IMO, that's why I hold out hope for my boy Bryce Cotton to get picked with Miami's 2nd rounder....

 

Seems like a pipe dream to me but crazier things have happened.

 

How that guys gets/takes so many shots at the end of the game is beyond me, he blows......

 

If Carmelo comes to Miami what would the starting line up be between Lebron and Melo? Lebron at PF and Melo at SF?

 

Well it's probably not going to happen, but I suppose you would list Lebron as the PF. Not that it matters as the Heat don't play traditional positions.

I'd say the overall probability is less than 5% of it happening so I wouldn't put too much thought into it

 

I'd much rather add K. Love

 

This. IMO they could use their money a lot better than on Carmelo Anthony.

 

Yup. Melo could single-handedly ruin the defense and unselfish ball-swinging on which Miami has made its name.

 

I would rather we have K Love too but at this point in his career he is looking for the money and not rings.

 

If in this scenario we added Melo its because we are looking for an offensive threat for when James is on the bench.

IMO Melo could be a good defended if he bought into the system.

 

Are we going through this "no way they'll take less money" thing again? Because that was already proven false in 2010.

 

Its funny because with all this talk of these guys walking, Mickey Arison has said he is 100% confident they all return. So has Wade. Bosh has even said he would take less money to come back if needed.

I think the question depends on how big of a cut they need to take. I like that Wade has said as a group they never needed to take a pay cut, thry wanted to in order to win. Well now we will see if they are serious about not onr, not two, not three.....

 

Overly simplified:

where
E is equal to yearly endorsement money, and S is equal to salary.
Even though S is reduced, Tstate is a non-factor in Florida, and E is expected to be much greater, simply due to winning.
R is equal to games played outside of Texas and Florida.

Edit: that second S should not be there.

 

It's one thing to take a small paycut to fit Udonis Haslem's $4.5 million dollar salary, it's another thing to try and fit Carmelo's salary.

I don't even care about that honestly. The guys have earned the money, in spades. I have no problem if they all simply want to opt in the next two years and take every dime. We'll figure something out in regards to filling the roster.

We made these deals and they have paid off handsomely. Now we have to live with them. If the guys want to be altruistic again, then that's fantastic, but if not so be it. Micky will just have to step up and pay more in luxury tax for a few years.

 

The problem is I don't think Manu can do that effectively on a consistent basis. He plays out of control a lot of the time, and when it works its amazing. When it doesn't though it can really hurt them.

Their best bet is Duncan inside but I'm not sure you can get more production out of him than he has given, and we seem content to let Duncan get his points in the post as opposes to crashing in and allowing threes.

 

He deserved it. That was a pretty bad one.

 

I think the NBA pretty soon will take a look at the idea of enforcing against flops more strictly either by increasing the fine amounts or suspending players for egregious flops.

It's probably the most distasteful aspect of the game as things stand right now, and anything that leaves the viewers with a bad taste in their mouth should be looked at as an impediment to the league's growing popularity. The flops just enforce the image of basketball players being divas, which I think is a real thing as far as public perception goes.

For example, one reason Lebron is probably hated as much as he is, is simply because of his habit of complaining for a foul on pretty much every single play. He makes that whiny face and a certain percentage of the public are going to hate that face every time. If not for that, Lebron James would almost be a fictionally perfect ambassador of the game.

The league probably needs to take a look at the flops as the fans not only hate them, but the flopping also seems to be getting out of control, even with the fines. The problem with the fines is that in the most important games of the season, which will happen to be the most WATCHED games of the season, players will make business decisions that they can afford the fines if it gets them a foul call at a critical time of such an important game. But if the players know they might not be allowed to dress out for the next game in the playoff series if they get caught flopping pretty bad, that would be a different story.

 

Are the two mutually exclusive? I think people underestimate how much being on a championship team helps out a player's earning potential.

LeBron, Wade, and Bosh are applauded for taking less money. The reality is that they're taking less salary because it will make them more money in the long term. These guys are plastered on TV non-stop these days. You can't buy the type of publicity they get. Kevin Love is nowhere to be seen right now. Advertisers take that into account.

 

It isn't altruism. They know that their careers and legacies will be much greater if they're part of a dynasty. How many more seasons will Wade's career last with LeBron and Bosh on his team? Is Wade's shoe deal worth as much if he isn't playing through early June? Is Chris Bosh a household name if he's losing in the first/second round regularly? Is LeBron James' legacy the same if he never comes to Miami and only wins a couple of rings?

 

His 10-year career of awful, lazy defense says otherwise. Could he score one-on-one for the ten minutes LeBron is out? Sure. But when they're together (ie most of the game) he'll be taking the ball out of LeBron's hands. Melo's not going to be some six-man who comes in for instant offense. Unless you want a Jamal Crawford type of player who jacks up everything. Melo would start and play down the stretch.

He's a ball-stopper and terrible defensive player...which are basically the antithesis to what the Heat do. Not sure why you think these things he's done for a decade will suddenly change.

 

I ask this question fully aware that the answer could be obvious to the point of me looking clueless, but could the Heat afford Patty Mills as a free agent?

I don't know about anyone else but that guy has impressed the hell out of me throughout the playoffs. The Heat are always talking about bringing extra energy to the floor. Mills is like lightning and he's always on the move.

And since it seems to always be a priority to surround Lebron and Wade with 3 point shooters, Mills would fit right in wouldn't he? Seems like he's been money on threes during the playoffs.

The reason I bring it up is Barry Jackson's latest cast some doubt on whether the Heat could bring back Chalmers as players in the locker room believe he's trying to cash in the best he can. Jackson mentioned a bunch of potential replacements and Patty Mills was one of them.

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Personally I've never really seen the attraction to putting Melo on the Heat.

Luol Deng though...

 

I don't see why there would be interest in Melo. His game just doesn't fit what Miami wants to be. Obviously I'm not opposed to adding more talent, but I think the money could be better spent.

 

Luol Deng fits this team like a glove. Fierce perimeter d and a silky 3 point shot.

Gotta think he wants more $$$ than we could pony up, but that's my favorite 2014 off season pipe dream.

 

Since you or no one has ever seen Melo's game with talent around him that's a silly statement.

 

I think they would take a cut if there was a specific player they wanted. For example if Melo was a guy they all wanted they would take less to make it happen.

 

Tony ****ing Brothers. Man.

 

Hard to make that argument when the Knicks have consistently had a higher defensive rating with Anthony off the floor than they have with him on the floor. He is an average individual defender, at best, and he's probably a worse team defender.

 

It's less an attraction and more putting 2 and 2 together. Riley has praised Melo in the past, LeBron and Melo are friends, Melo is on the market, and Melo wants to win titles.

It adds up to a one year deal, on paper.

 

I don't see Melo as likely and certainly not a guy I would target. The only thing that hints at all to him being a possibility is how important winning a ring has to be for him at this point and how close he and Lebron are.

Love is an obvious great get, but I don't envision him taking anything but a max deal at this point.

Patty Mills was brought up before and he seems like a great fit. Although I could see Chambers coming back since these playoffs seem to have hurt his value. I don't think he's likely to find anybody willing to offer what he's seeking out there. If I were him and didn't see a big payday elsewhere I'd certainly return for the chance to add more rings. But I wonder if the Heat wouldn't be better off with Coles, Mills, Douglas and a rook like Napier?