Good article on why it was smart for the Red Sox not to have made that trade: http://bostonherald.com/sports/base..._thanks_smart_to_avoid_johnson-reyes_megadeal I agree with it. This isn't just about 2013, it's about the future too. A quick band aid on a bullet hole won't work.
eh it would have defeated the purpose of what the Punto trade intent IMO.....kind of a no brainer... btw, why is it called the "Punto" trade?
Exactly. It's called "The Punto Trade" because it sounds funny to say it since he sucks and he was just a throw in, plus most people don't/won't even remember he was a part of it. I mean saying the Beckett, Gonzo or Crawford trade simply doesn't have the same ring to it. That's why I think we should call the Jays/Marlins trade officially "The John Buck Trade".
Gammons is reporting the Marlins wanted Middlebrooks, Doubront, Bogaerts and another player for Johnson and Reyes. Think about that one for a second. I wonder how long it took the FO to say no and hang up the phone.
Yeah a by far much better return then what the Jays gave the Marlins. Of course part of the reason why the Marlins got so little was because of all the money the Jays reportedly took on. Not every team is going to take on a ton of money and trade top prospects (cue obvious Dodger joke here).
Ummmmm what? How are they going to add 160M this year to becoming one of the highest payrolls this year.... http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8635216/boston-red-sox-gm-team-one-larger-payrolls
Where does it say in the article they're going to add 160 million? All he says is the team is going to have one of the larger payrolls in the game.
okay 135M then.....80-120M isnt large one of the larger payrolls constitutes what 170-200? again how and what are they going to add to get to be considered "large"..... all I am saying is it is stupid.....I dont think it would be smart to do that, I am sensing a bluff, I mean eventually I see them getting to that luxary tax threshold of what 189? but he almost soundes like it is all happening this year.... you wouldnt be able to get there without adding multiple bad contracts...like reall bad, because the FA class is kinda weak this yea.r...
Saying it and doing it are two different things. I suspect Cherington said it mainly to calm people down since they really haven't made any moves yet. He also said that he wants to have a competitve team in 2013 without sacrificing the future of the organization. I do think that means they might overpay for a FA on a short term deal (for example giving Kuroda a 1 year deal for 18 million) but I don't think that means signing a Josh Hamiltion type for 5 plus years because again that's going against the whole reason they made the "Nick Punto Trade" in the first place. Again though it's all open to interpretation. You hear one of the larger payrolls in the game and think in that 170 to 200 million range. He never gave a number for all we know he might think larger payroll means higher than 60 to 75% of teams, maybe more or less. Maybe large to them is over 125 million. Who knows.
such an advantageous position to be in.... was working out (while running, I cant lift until my shoulder is better) yesterday with Rocco Baldelli.....man the kid still looks like he could rake.....about 200-205....a shame what happened to him....
Yeah absolutely. Only one real bad contract which is Lackey, only 2 more years of that. Assuming the Sox continue to spend wisely they'll be in a huge power position in those years when teams will have to start scaling back the spending. Yeah it's a real shame how illness and injuries ruined what could have been a very good career. Players shouldn't take playing in the MLB for granted that's for sure. Also shows you how important health is to a player's performance.
Remember when he threw out 2 Sox at home on consecutive plays ..... Word is the Sox are kicking the tires on Berkman....come on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnn
Oh of course. Wonder if Dale Svuem still remembers. As far as Berkman, yes sign me up as I'd rather they go after him for 1 year deal than Adam LaRoche for 3 or 4.
Red Sox added RHP Allen Webster, RHP Alex Wilson, RHP Steven Wright, C Dan Butler, C Christian Vazquez and OF Alex Hassen to the 40 man roster. They DFA'ed INF Ivan DeJesus, Jr., 1B/3B Danny Valencia, RHP Zach Stewart, RHP Sandy Rosario and RHP David Carpenter. Adding Hassen and DFAing DeJesus are the only surprises here, as the Sox now do not have a back up INFer currently on the roster. The 40 man currently has 40 men on it so if they sign anyone someone needs to come off. The Sox now have 5 catchers on the roster so expect one (Saltalamacchia or Lavarnway to be traded) and I also wouldn't be surprised if one of their LHRPs (Rich Hill, Franklin Morales, Craig Breslow or Andrew Miller) is shipped out too as there's a surplus there too.
Sox are closing in on a 2 year deal for Jonny Gomes. Which would probably mean the end of the Cody Ross Era in Boston. Going to wait and see what the contracts are for both players before really judging it. I assume Gomes will be low money.
Swisher probably wants 4 or 5. I'm guessing money is the main issue with Ross, probably years too. As far as Gomes an opposing player I never liked him either so it's going to be hard for me to root for him but he kills LHPing. As a platoon player he makes sense but he's not an everyday player but I'm sure both he and the Sox know that. By the way, by all reports/accounts Gomes is a very good clubhouse guy. Teammates generally like him and he's well respected by them.
Gomes is getting 2 years 10 million total. Definitely an overpay but I'd much rather overpay for a short term deal to ensure you get the player, especially in the Sox case with money to spend.
seems steep for estentially another Cody Ross.....part time guy.. looking back they should have made a qualifying offer to Ross.....wonder why they didnt?
13.5 million dollars is why. Ross probably would have accepted it. You think Gomes making 5 million dollars is steep, Ross would have tripled that figure. Ross made 3 million last year. I agree it's an overpay. I mean Gomes is probably worth what maybe 3 million a year or so? So paying him 2 extra million a year for a shorter deal, I don't really see a major issue with it. Ross is the better player, especially since he can play at least average defense in the OF, while Gomes isn't good at all but it's all about getting those value players on short term deals. Which is what the Sox got away from when they started signing the Lackeys and Crawfords of the MLB.
Sox talked to the Royals about a possible Jon Lester for OF prospect Wil Myers but nothing ever came out of it. Definitely an interesting what if trade but I think at this point it wouldn't make much sense for either team to pull the trigger unless the Sox got 2 pitchers in separate deals, whether via trade or FA signing. The Sox problem last year was starting pitching, giving up one without someone else ready to step in wouldn't make much sense. But I'm sure this will lead to some interesting conversations on the radio today.
BP released their top 10 Red Sox prospect rankings this morning: 1. Xander Bogaerts - SS 2. Jackie Bradley, Jr. - CF 3. Matt Barnes - RHP 4. Allen Webster - RHP 5. Blake Swihart - C 6. Garin Cecchini - 3B 7. Henry Owens - LHP 8. Bryce Brentz - LF/RF 9. Jose Iglesias - SS 10. Brian Johnson - LHP The only real difference between the two lists are at #10 with SS Devern Marrero in the BA list and LHP Brian Johnson in the BP listing. Still waiting on MLB.com's list and Keith Law's list which both come out around January.
Lucchino said he wants to wrap up LF by the winter meetings...... conventional wisdom means either Ross, Hamilton, or Swisher is signing with them soon...
If those are the options I'd offer Josh Hamilton a 1 year deal worth 25 to 30 million and hope for the best.
Thought I posted this this morning, I guess not, but IF the rumored Jon Lester for Wil Myers trade is legit, I think I would probably make that deal even if it left the Sox scrambling for more pitching. I think Myers upside is probably higher than Lesters at this point. Sure it's a risky deal but having an offensive core team of Myers, Bradley, Bogaerts, Middlebrooks and Pedroia starting in 2014 looks pretty damn good (and cheap too).
People are speculating and rightfully so that the signing of Victorino probably means the Sox will start to shop Ellsbury. That's the 2nd thought I heard once I heard the news of the signing. My first thought was really?
ehh 13M on 3 yrs for him, you guys can have him...... that pretty much solidifies Napoli as the everyday 1B which should be a joy to watch this year.....would have been netter off with Swisher he could have played RF, and 1B..... they didnt do that because of the draft pick, and the Sox dont give up draft picks (rightfully so).....if the Yanks didnt qualify Swisher, he would be a Red Sox right now...
All depends on the length of the contract Swisher wants. Again it's obvious that the Sox don't want to hand out long term deals so they have no problem overpaying players for shorter term deals. Again I have no problem with the Sox doing that. Napoli and Victorino aren't 13 million dollar players and Gomes isn't a 5 million dollar player but if that means getting them on shorter term deals, then yes I'm all for it. We all know those long term (4 years or more) contracts almost never work out in the last 2 or 3 years of the deal. With the all the money the Sox freed up in the Punto Trade they're able to afford to overspend on those short term deals.
It happens. I'm actually surprised the Sox signed him to begin with (although I think they're either going to try and trade Ellsbury and put Victorino in CF or when Ellsbury leaves after the season Victorino could be the CFer in case Jackie Bradley, Jr. isn't ready). I know he has a pretty big platoon split but here's hoping he can repeat his 2010/2011 numbers, if that's the case the deal won't look too horrible. But yes it is an overpay, although I do wonder if he didn't have such a poor year in 2012 what kind of contract he would have gotten or if getting 39/3 would have been panned so much.
Word is it's a 2 year deal. Might as well take a shot right? And the advanced stats show he was very unlucky when he was with Texas. And again, SSS. Not saying Dempster will/won't be good but if you can get someone with his stuff/talent for 2 years why the heck not. I'm happier with Dempster in my rotation then say Franklin Morales.
Problem is Morales is good at a number 5, left hander, throws plus fastballl.....I like that, better than Dempster going against number 2's....his stats are misleading, very misleading, like R. A. Dickey-ish....his velo is below 90 so if he doesn't spot his stuff, he will get killed in the ALE, like Andy Pet.... I mean I gues you take a shot, their rotation isnt great by any means right now as it stands....
