The Cigar Thread

Would somebody chime in on their experience with Acid Cigars good or bad?
Punch or cutters?

Any strong opinions on lighters vs matches?

"Den54 wrote:

Would somebody chime in on their experience with Acid Cigars good or bad?
Punch or cutters?

Any strong opinions on lighters vs matches?

I'm not a fan of flavored wrappers but there is fine tobacco in the Acids. Well made cigar.

This is all Nabo though, as he knows Drew Estates better than anyone.

I'm not sure about punch or v shape cutters. I've always used traditional cutters. Good question.

And as long as you use butane, you're fine. Never use a zippo or fluid based lighter. Stick matches are always nice if the conditions allow for it.

"Den54 wrote:

Would somebody chime in on their experience with Acid Cigars good or bad?
Punch or cutters?

Any strong opinions on lighters vs matches?

Acids are quality tobacco rolled by the best, infused properly (Not immersed) and they are some of the best-made cigars out there. Not for everyone, but the Naturals are phenomenal; of the most-infused, the Roam is my favorite. The Jucy Lucy and Blondies are great too. Experimant, find what you like.

Palio cutters for me; guaranteed for life, best cut you can get. Doesn't pinch like the Xikar. Punches are only good for extra-large RG cigars (60RG and above) where it's hard to get a cutter around the stick. CigarsInternational.com has extra-large cutters but they dull easily.

Butane torch lighters are the way to go. Blazer makes several excellent, almost-indestructible lighters. Stick to single-flame, unless you smoke a lot of 60RG+.

This is the best source for accessories; no-questions exchanges, great people:
http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/

BTW, the Tabak Especial by Drew Estates is one of the finest smokes, if you like coffee. They are well-infused, and highly enjoyable.

"NaboCane wrote:

Acids are quality tobacco rolled by the best, infused properly (Not immersed) and they are some of the best-made cigars out there. Not for everyone, but the Naturals are phenomenal; of the most-infused, the Roam is my favorite. The Jucy Lucy and Blondies are great too. Experimant, find what you like.

Palio cutters for me; guaranteed for life, best cut you can get. Doesn't pinch like the Xikar. Punches are only good for extra-large RG cigars (60RG and above) where it's hard to get a cutter around the stick. CigarsInternational.com has extra-large cutters but they dull easily.

Butane torch lighters are the way to go. Blazer makes several excellent, almost-indestructible lighters. Stick to single-flame, unless you smoke a lot of 60RG+.

This is the best source for accessories; no-questions exchanges, great people:
http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/

Appreciate the great info.
How's the pneumonia?

"NaboCane wrote:

Yep, can't go wrong with a boxed Ashton sampler. Great caché, and it's actually a good cigar.

....unzips

44 Presidents, 1 King.

Even Elvis enjoyed a good cigar... and a tasty trollop to do some smoking of her own later on.

"Sethdaddy8 wrote:

This is the selection, I think it may change from time to time. It's alphabetical, so you can scroll through to check out whatever brand that way. They do have a 601 Blue in the line up.

5 Vegas Classic Robusto, Sumatra 5" x 50
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5 Vegas Classic Torpedo, Sumatra 6" x 54
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5 Vegas Gold Toro, Connecticut 6" x 50
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5 Vegas Gold Churchill, Connecticut 7" x 50
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5 Vegas Miami Toro Gordo, Habano 6" x 60
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5 Vegas Miami Torpedo, Habano 6.1" x 52
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5 Vegas Series 'A' Apocalypse, Maduro 6" x 58
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5 Vegas Triple-A Triple-A, Maduro 5" x 56
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601 Blue Label Maduro Robusto, Maduro 5.2" x 52
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601 Green Label Oscuro Tronco, Maduro 5" x 52
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601 La Bomba Napalm, Habano 5" x 52
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ACID by Drew Estate Def Sea (Ltd. Ed.), Habano 6" x 52
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ACID by Drew Estate Liquid, Habano 5" x 50
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ACID by Drew Estate Kuba Kuba, Habano 5" x 54
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ACID by Drew Estate Blondie Belicoso, Habano 5" x 54
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ACID by Drew Estate Kuba Kuba Maduro, Maduro 5" x 54
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ACID Opulence 3 Robusto, Maduro 5" x 54
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Alec Bradley American Classic Toro, Connecticut 6" x 50
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Alec Bradley MAXX Brazil Robusto, Habano 5" x 50
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Ave Maria Crusader, Habano 5" x 52
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Ave Maria Lionheart (Box-press), Habano 5.5" x 55
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Brick House Robusto, Habano 5" x 54
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Cain Robusto, Habano 5.7" x 50
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CAO America Potomac, Mixed 5" x 56
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CAO Brazilia Gol!, Maduro 5" x 56
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CAO Concert Roadie, Habano 5.5" x 54
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CAO Extreme Robusto, Habano 5" x 50
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CAO Extreme Belicoso, Habano 6.2" x 52
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CAO Flavours Gold Honey Petit Corona, Habano 4" x 38
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CAO Flavours Caramelo Joe Corona, Habano 5.1" x 42
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Carlos Torano Casa Torano Robusto, Connecticut 4.7" x 52
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Carlos Torano Exodus Gold 1959 Robusto, Habano 5" x 52
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Carlos Torano Exodus Silver Robusto Corto, Habano 4.7" x 52
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Carlos Torano Noventa Santiago, Habano 5" x 50
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Casa Magna Dominican Gran Toro, Habano 6" x 60
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Cigar.com American Label Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Cigar.com Blue Label Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Cigar.com Purple Label Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Cigar.com Sun Grown Label Robusto, Habano 5" x 50
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Cohiba Puro Dominicana Robusto, Habano 5.5" x 50
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Cohiba Red Dot Robusto, Cameroon 5" x 49
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Cu-Avana Intensus Toro, Habano 6" x 52
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Cu-Avana Punisher Belicoso, Habano 6" x 52
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Cusano 18 Paired Maduro Robusto, Double Maduro 5" x 50
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Diamond Crown Julius Caeser Toro, Habano 6" x 52
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Diesel Shorty (Torpedo), Maduro 4.5" x 60
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Diesel Unholy Cocktail (Belicoso), Maduro 5" x 56
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Diesel Double Perfecto, Habano 6" x 60
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Diesel Delirium Toro Gordo, Habano 6.5" x 56
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Diesel Unlimited d.X (Belicoso), Habano 5.7" x 56
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Diesel Unlimited d.6, Habano 6" x 60
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Don Pepin Garcia Blue Generosos, Habano 6" x 50
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Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic Robusto, Habano 5" x 50
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El Mejor Toro Gordo, Habano 6" x 60
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Erin Go Bragh Toro, Connecticut 6" x 50
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Established 1844 No. 54, Maduro 5.7" x 54
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Fallen Angel Robusto, Sumatra 5" x 52
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Felipe Gregorio Dominicana Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Garo Vintage Toro, Sumatra 6" x 52
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Graycliff G2 PGX, Sumatra 6" x 50
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Graycliff Platinum Series Pirate (Torpedo), Habano 6.1" x 52
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Gurkha Beast Beast, Maduro 6.5" x 56
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Gurkha Beast Gran Torpedo, Maduro 7" x 56
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Gurkha Beauty XO, Connecticut 6" x 60
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Gurkha Beauty Toro, Connecticut 6.5" x 56
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Gurkha Beauty Gran Torpedo, Connecticut 7" x 56
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Gurkha Black Beauty Beauty, Maduro 6.5" x 56
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Gurkha Black Beauty Gran Torpedo, Maduro 7" x 56
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Gurkha Black Dragon Fury Gran Torpedo, Maduro 7" x 56
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Gurkha Centurian Double X, Connecticut 6" x 60
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Gurkha Crest XO, Maduro 6" x 60
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Gurkha Master Select XO, Habano 6" x 60
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Gurkha Master Select Churchill, Habano 7.2" x 50
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Gurkha Master's Select The Duke, Habano 4.7" x 60
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Gurkha Park Avenue Torpedo, Connecticut 6.2" x 52
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Gurkha Status Torpedo, Maduro 6.5" x 52
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Gurkha Symphony Grand Rothchild, Connecticut 6.5" x 55
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Gurkha Symphony Torpedo, Connecticut 7" x 56
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Gurkha Titan Titan, Maduro 6.2" x 56
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Gurkha Vintage Shaggy Grand Rothchild, Habano 6.5" x 55
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Gurkha Vintage Shaggy Gran Torpedo, Habano 7" x 56
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Gurkha Viper Robusto, Habano 5" x 50
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Gurkha Viper Double Toro, Habano 6" x 60
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Gurkha Warlord Super Toro, Habano 6.7" x 60
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Gurkha Warpig Robusto, Maduro 5" x 54
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Gurkha Widow Maker Churchill, Connecticut 7" x 52
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H. Upmann Media Noche Robusto, Maduro 5" x 54
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Hoyo Excalibur Epicure, Connecticut 5.2" x 50
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Hoyo Excalibur 1066 Dark Knight, Maduro 5.7" x 54
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J Fuego Origen Robusto, Habano 4.8" x 49
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Jaime Garcia Reserva Especial Robusto, Maduro 5.2" x 52
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Joya de Nicaragua Antano Consul, Habano 4.5" x 52
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Joya de Nicaragua Antano Dark Corojo El Martillo, Habano 5.5" x 54
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La Aroma de Cuba Robusto, Maduro 5" x 54
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La Aroma de Cuba Immensa, Maduro 5.5" x 60
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La Aroma de Cuba El Jefe, Maduro 7" x 58
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La Aurora Preferido #2, Connecticut 5" x 54
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La Aurora Preferido #2, Sumatra 5" x 54
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La Gloria Cubana Wavell, Sumatra 5" x 50
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La Gloria Cubana Serie N Generoso, Maduro 5.7" x 49
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La Gloria Cubana Serie R No. 4, Maduro 4.9" x 52
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La Herencia Cubana CORE Robusto, Habano 5" x 52
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La Herencia Cubana Original Toro, Sumatra 6.5" x 52
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La Herencia Cubana Original Torpedo, Sumatra 6.5" x 52
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La Herencia Cubana Oscuro Fuerte Belicoso, Maduro 5" x 56
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La Perla Habana White Pearl Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 52
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Latitude Zero Robusto, Habano 5" x 52
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Legado de Pepin Gordo, Habano 6" x 60
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Macanudo Cafe Hyde Park, Connecticut 5.5" x 49
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Man O' War Torpedo, Habano 6.1" x 54
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Man O' War Toro, Habano 6.5" x 52
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Man O' War Figurado, Habano 7.1" x 58
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Man O' War Ruination Robusto No. 1, Habano 5.5" x 54
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Man O' War Ruination Belicoso, Habano 5.7" x 56
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Man O' War Ruination Robusto No. 2, Habano 6" x 60
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Man O' War Side Projects 52C, Habano 5" x 52
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Man O' War Side Projects Little Devil, Habano 5.5" x 44
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Man O' War Side Projects Phalanx, Maduro 6.5" x 56
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Man O' War Virtue Toro, Connecticut 6" x 50
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Man O' War Virtue Churchill, Connecticut 7.5" x 52
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Montecristo Classic Churchill, Connecticut 7" x 54
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Montecristo Media Noche No. 2 (Torpedo), Maduro 6.1" x 54
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Morro Castle Robusto, Sumatra 4.7" x 52
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My Father No. 1, Habano 5.2" x 52
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My Father Le Bijou 1922 Petit Robusto, Maduro 4.5" x 50
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Nat Sherman Host Selection Hobart, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Natural by Drew Estate Pimp Stick (Ltd. Ed.), Habano 6" x 52
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Natural by Drew Estate Ltd. Ed. Irish Hops, Habano 6" x 52
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Nica Libre Toro, Maduro 6" x 54
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Nicarao Classico Piramide, Habano 6" x 52
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Nicarao Exclusivo Toro, Maduro 6" x 52
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Nicarao Havana Toro, Habano 6" x 50
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Nicarao Seleccion Toro, Maduro 6" x 50
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Nub 460, Connecticut 4" x 60
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Nub 464T (Torpedo), Connecticut 4" x 64
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Nub 464T (Torpedo), Habano 4" x 64
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Nub 466, Habano 4" x 66
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Obsidian Belicoso, Maduro 6.5" x 52
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Oliva Connecticut Reserve Double Toro, Connecticut 6" x 60
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Oliva Master Blends III Robusto, Maduro 5" x 50
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Oliva Saison Torpedo, Habano 6" x 52
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Oliva Serie O Habano Robusto, Habano 5" x 50
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Padilla 1932 Torpedo, Habano 6.1" x 52
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Partagas 1845 Robusto, Habano 5.5" x 49
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PDR Oscuro Torpedo, Maduro 6.5" x 52
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Perdomo Lot 23 Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Perdomo Reserve 10th Champagne Epicure, Connecticut 6" x 54
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Primeros Regionals - Mexican Churchill, Maduro 7" x 50
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Punch Pita, Habano 6.1" x 50
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Punch Bareknuckle Rothschild, Habano 4.5" x 50
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Punch Gran Puro Rancho, Habano 5.5" x 54
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Ramon Bueso Genesis The Project Robusto, Maduro 5" x 50
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Ramon Bueso Odyssey Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Rocky Patel Connecticut Torpedo, Connecticut 6.5" x 50
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Rocky Patel Decade Torpedo, Habano 6.5" x 52
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Rocky Patel Royal Vintage Churchill, Habano 7.1" x 48
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Rocky Patel Sun Grown Torpedo, Sumatra 6.1" x 52
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Rocky Patel The Edge Toro, Habano 6" x 52
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Rocky Patel The Edge Torpedo, Maduro 6" x 52
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Rocky Patel Vintage 1990 Torpedo, Maduro 6.1" x 52
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Rocky Patel Vintage 1990 Robusto, Maduro 5.5" x 50
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Rocky Patel Vintage 1992 Torpedo, Habano 6.1" x 52
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Rocky Patel Vintage 1992 Robusto, Habano 5.5" x 50
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Romeo y Julieta 1875 Bully, Sumatra 5" x 50
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Romeo y Julieta Media Noche Robusto, Maduro 5" x 54
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Romeo y Julieta Reserve Churchill, Habano 7" x 54
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Romeo y Julieta Viejo C, Maduro 7" x 54
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Rosalones by Joya de Nicaragua 448, Habano 4.7" x 48
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Sancho Panza Glorioso, Connecticut 6.1" x 50
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Sencillo Platinum Short Churchill, Habano 6.2" x 48
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Signature Collection 2005 Maduro Robusto, Maduro 5.7" x 50
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Sol Cubano Classic Toro, Habano 6" x 50
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Sol Cubano Special Dark Toro, Maduro 6" x 50
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The Griffin's Robusto, Connecticut 5" x 50
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Xikar HC Series Criollo Toro, Habano 6.5" x 52
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I really have nothing to ad. I just wanted to quote this post to piss all of you off. :shifty:

"McLovin wrote:

I really have nothing to ad. I just wanted to quote this post to piss all of you off. :shifty:

other than a d, stoopid.

"phinsational wrote:

other than a d, stoopid.

Like you didn't already know he was missing a "d".

"NaboCane wrote:

Flying Fish, from Olympia, WA! Nice.

To me, the Nub is the both the canniest and most cynical marketing ploy ever in the world of cigars. Full price for half a cigar? Pass.

I tasted one once, and it was nasty to me. Then again, after forty years smoking cigars, I have very particular tastes.

That said—smoke what you like, and like what you smoke.

I smoked a Cuban Punch RS11 from 1999 this afternoon; beautiful smoke. Straightforward tobacco with earthy, barnyard notes and mild spice in the retrohale.

I smoked a Cuban Por Larrañaga Petit Corona from 2006 yesterday. This is truly my desert island smoke; creamy, medium body with loads of flavor complexity and nice vanilla and cocoa undertones. I only have half a box of these left, and I both relish and regret every one I smoke.

I agree on all counts. Btw, have you ever tried a Cuban Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure? I used to love that cigar in the 90's and early 2000's before I stopped smoking them.

"NaboCane wrote:

Thompson is a marketing company disguised as a cigar company. They just put a cookie on your computer which expires in 2086.

Famous Smokes, Mike's Cigars, Cigars International, Best Cigar Prices.com are good, reputable dealers.

No, I wouldn't recommend the maduro Macanudo. You said you wanted a beginner's intro.

Not a fan of Macanudo. Thought they tried to be the light, sophisticated non-Cuban version of Romeo y Julieta but were not in the same class. Overpriced and still a bit harsh stating to me. Slick marketing and branding though.

That reminds me, for a milder smoke, the Romeo y Julieta Churchill I bought in Havana was great. A bit light for my taste, but still fantastic.

"Sethdaddy8 wrote:

The bags are better for your own collection and experimenting with new sticks. There is a lot out there that shows better as a "gift."

I think Ashton makes the best "gift" cigar. Universally loved and recognized. It's always a high end stick too, but not ridiculously expensive. Check cigar dot com and other mentioned sites here. There are assortment packs and samplers packaged very nicely for some brands. But a couple Ashton sticks will work just fine IMO. Their Magnums, Double Magnums and Aged Maduros are very nice.

Had an Ashton torpedo (again, late 90's lol... **** that's a long time ago) and found it went hot and harsh sooner than I'd expect... especially for the price. I used to try to keep a longer ash on the cigar as it mitigated that harsh, hot draw on some cigars, but the Ashton, by a third of the way down it was burning my tongue (no I didn't have it wrong-way-around). Most other good cigars I'd get at least halfway before noticing that. Great cigars I'd make it 2/3 down the stick before it got harsh... man this sounds so sexual it's bad. lol.

"Sethdaddy8 wrote:

I'm not a fan of flavored wrappers but there is fine tobacco in the Acids. Well made cigar.

This is all Nabo though, as he knows Drew Estates better than anyone.

I'm not sure about punch or v shape cutters. I've always used traditional cutters. Good question.

And as long as you use butane, you're fine. Never use a zippo or fluid based lighter. Stick matches are always nice if the conditions allow for it.

If you're smoking a fantastic cigar, ask for cedar strips to light with. Light the cedar strip w the match, then light the cigar with the cedar strip. If you have that level of palate that you can detect match sulphur on your cigar.

For most people, it's over-doing it to bother with cedarstrips. Just use matches directly. Especially for cigars under $50, imo.

"Bpk wrote:

Had an Ashton torpedo (again, late 90's lol... **** that's a long time ago) and found it went hot and harsh sooner than I'd expect... especially for the price. I used to try to keep a longer ash on the cigar as it mitigated that harsh, hot draw on some cigars, but the Ashton, by a third of the way down it was burning my tongue (no I didn't have it wrong-way-around). Most other good cigars I'd get at least halfway before noticing that. Great cigars I'd make it 2/3 down the stick before it got harsh... man this sounds so sexual it's bad. lol.

I usually stick to the Ashton Magnums. Never had a bad one. Maybe you were drawing too frequently? I know I sometimes loose track. Just a draw per 45-60 seconds keeps the cigar burning cool and ideal.

"Bpk wrote:

Had an Ashton torpedo (again, late 90's lol...

... or you mean That 70's. :shifty:

"Sethdaddy8 wrote:

I usually stick to the Ashton Magnums. Never had a bad one. Maybe you were drawing too frequently? I know I sometimes loose track. Just a draw per 45-60 seconds keeps the cigar burning cool and ideal.

But Maynard said to *never* stop sucking!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS3rW6QBRuA

What a cheap way to get fist bumps.

"Bpk wrote:

I agree on all counts. Btw, have you ever tried a Cuban Hoyo de Monterrey Epicure? I used to love that cigar in the 90's and early 2000's before I stopped smoking them.

Yes; in fact, I had my last Epicure a few months ago.

Ever had any of the L'Hoyos, the ones with the French names? Sublime.

"Bpk wrote:

Not a fan of Macanudo. Thought they tried to be the light, sophisticated non-Cuban version of Romeo y Julieta but were not in the same class. Overpriced and still a bit harsh stating to me. Slick marketing and branding though.

That reminds me, for a milder smoke, the Romeo y Julieta Churchill I bought in Havana was great. A bit light for my taste, but still fantastic.

I liked Macs back when they were made in Jamaica.

"NaboCane wrote:

Yes; in fact, I had my last Epicure a few months ago.

Ever had any of the L'Hoyos, the ones with the French names? Sublime.

Was it Hoyo de Dauphin? That sounds familiar, but honestly I can't recall anymore.

"NaboCane wrote:

I liked Macs back when they were made in Jamaica.

That's where they were made when I had them. They were classy, but too mild for me. Where are they made now? Honduras?

Punch Punch were a buddy of mine's fave. I was unimpressed, but at the same time was never disappointed by one. Pretty dependable cigar is what I'd say.

"Bpk wrote:

Was it Hoyo de Dauphin? That sounds familiar, but honestly I can't recall anymore.

Yep; and du Prince, etc. Amazing complexity, small RGs.

"Bpk wrote:

That's where they were made when I had them. They were classy, but too mild for me. Where are they made now? Honduras?

The DR. It's still a dependable, mild stick; great for beginners because despite being mild, it's an excellently-made cigar with fine tobaccos.