The buzz ......davone bess + J Long

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ATVZ400ATVZ400New MemberOP
Jul 3, 2008, 11:40 AM

DAVONE BESS UPDATE
The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that the rookie wide receiver has impressed Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland, who says he should be a good receiver for a long-time in the NFL.

Mandel's Take: The undrafted rook certainly signed with the right team if he wants to stick in the league. He could fast become a Parcells mascot and we all know that those "Parcells Guys" manage to hang around. He could relieve Ted Ginn, Jr. in the punt return department and be an effective slot receiver...if the Fish have anyone to throw the ball to him.

Mancini's Take: Coming out of college, Bess has a few things working against him, including his lack of size (barely 5' 10"), ordinary speed and character issues stemming from a 15-month stay in a juvenile facility for his role in receiving stolen goods. The rookie, however, is doing an excellent job of silencing his naysayers by showing Dolphin nation his tremendous hands, impressive quickness and outstanding change-of-direction skills. On a team devoid of top talent at the receiver position, Bess has an opportunity to be a prime target.

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/All-Access-Football/all_access_buzz.html

gunn34gunn34New Member
Jul 3, 2008, 11:42 AM

He could be like Smith in Carolina. Always a pro-bowler. He was considered slow and short with good hands and quickness. Look how he turned out. You can't measure heart.

ATVZ400ATVZ400New Member
Jul 3, 2008, 11:46 AM

JAKE LONG UPDATE

Mandel's Take: As the number one pick, the guy better be able to play anywhere they put him. As Sparano said, left tackle is their need (as if they have only "a" need!) so he'll be given every opportunity to succeed at that pivotal position. Wherever Long plays, he's almost a sure bet to improve the Dolphins'running game.

Mancini's Take: People unfairly compare Long to Joe Thomas who's a bit more nimble than the former Michigan man when it comes to pass blocking, but Long should have no problems playing left tackle. While his overall agility may not be up to par with some others at the position, his power and drive-blocking prowess are amazing. I can't see why Long can't be a perennial All Pro barring injury.
http://www.nfldraftbible.com/All-Access-Football/all_access_buzz.html

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Jul 3, 2008, 11:46 AM

Wow, apparently speed is so deceptive...I watch his video's and like Smith himself, I swear they are football fast.....

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gunn34gunn34New Member
Jul 3, 2008, 11:49 AM

If Bess turns out like Smith, we would all be wearing his jerseys.

UltraUltraforum_veteran
Jul 3, 2008, 12:10 PM

I'd be happy if Bess turned out to be our new Wes Welker.

PhinsRockPhinsRockluxury_box
Jul 3, 2008, 12:20 PM

Thanks Anthony, good info to read. Bess would be a great pickup for us if he turned into another Welker, we need a few of those stories/pickups to go our way for a change. BTW anyone know what Bess' time is in the 40? I have watched videos on him and he sure can catch the ball, and knows how to get loose from a defender. :up:

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Jul 3, 2008, 12:32 PM

ATVZ400ATVZ400New Member
Jul 3, 2008, 12:58 PM

"PhinsRock wrote:

Thanks Anthony, good info to read. Bess would be a great pickup for us if he turned into another Welker, we need a few of those stories/pickups to go our way for a change. BTW anyone know what Bess' time is in the 40? I have watched videos on him and he sure can catch the ball, and knows how to get loose from a defender. :up:

Height: 5-97/8 | Weight: 194 | 40-Time: 4.69

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/davonebess.html

ATVZ400ATVZ400New Member
Jul 3, 2008, 01:02 PM

gafinfangafinfansubscriber
Jul 3, 2008, 02:15 PM

Every 7th catch goes for a TD and with 293 catches he didn't fumble; Not Once! Love the stats!:up::wink2:


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Marino1983Marino1983New Member
Jul 3, 2008, 03:36 PM

I like what I have been reading about this kid Bess..

He seems like a find but t-c will substantiate if this guy is the real deal or just a wanabe fluff ...

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KAKanye WestNew Member
Jul 3, 2008, 03:48 PM

Good info bro

TiP54TiP54New Member
Jul 3, 2008, 03:52 PM

Bess = Welker 2.0?
New and Improved?

CRCrunkcoreNew Member
Jul 3, 2008, 04:43 PM

Good read, thanks.

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jdang307jdang307subscriber
Jul 3, 2008, 11:56 PM

"Mari0k wrote:

Bess = Welker 2.0?
New and Improved?

Don't mention that name again unless it is to pour dirt on it! :no::lol:

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Jul 4, 2008, 07:08 AM

"gunn34 wrote:

He could be like Smith in Carolina. Always a pro-bowler. He was considered slow and short with good hands and quickness. Look how he turned out. You can't measure heart.

Smith was never considered slow

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MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Jul 4, 2008, 07:13 AM

"Disgustipate wrote:

No offense, Steve Smith was never considered slow. He ran a 4.44 40.

That's probably about as slow as Smith would run the 40. His combine 40 time was about 4.31. Bess could only dream of running like Smith.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

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MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Jul 4, 2008, 07:19 AM

"PhinsRock wrote:

Thanks Anthony, good info to read. Bess would be a great pickup for us if he turned into another Welker, we need a few of those stories/pickups to go our way for a change. BTW anyone know what Bess' time is in the 40? I have watched videos on him and he sure can catch the ball, and knows how to get loose from a defender. :up:

According to www.nfldraftscout.com he ran a 4.64 at the combine and 4.6 at his pro day

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

MrCleanMrCleansubscriber
Jul 4, 2008, 07:26 AM

BTW, if we do have a WR on the roster, other than Ginn, who can run like Steve Smith, it is Jayson Foster, not Davone Bess.

“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”

― Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Jul 4, 2008, 04:35 PM

What worries me is that every year there is a WR that is "the next big thing" who rarely even makes the team.

Not to be a party pooper but fool me once shame on you, fool me the last 6 years...shame on me.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Jul 4, 2008, 04:46 PM

"MrClean wrote:

BTW, if we do have a WR on the roster, other than Ginn, who can run like Steve Smith, it is Jayson Foster, not Davone Bess.

Exactly, and we have been here before, unknown Wr catching eyes in the offseason..

As long as Devone can catch the ball and knows where the first down marker is, he could stick, but catching the ball and finding the first down markers in traffic is a NFL skill, much more so then raw speed.

We''ll see soon enough, TC Reporters will be able to give a no B$ assesment of Bess's ability to create seperation from a defender...I cannot wait until TC finally opens.....:up:

Roman529Roman529New Member
Jul 4, 2008, 10:18 PM

I heard Bess is a Mormon....we should not have to worry about any characters issues with him.

Puka-headPuka-headsubscriber
Jul 5, 2008, 03:29 AM

This bears repeating, 293 reception w/o a fumble. The other thing not mentioned is how intelligent of a football player he is and the skill he has in reading Defenses and DB's. HI ran a read and react system that required the reciever to run his route based on the allignment of the defender.

PhinsRockPhinsRockluxury_box
Jul 5, 2008, 08:29 AM

I'm not worried about his 40 time not being that good, he has a knack for getting open, and an even better knack for catching the ball. Jerry Rice wasn't exactly a speed burner and he turned out pretty good (understatement of the century).

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