The Bloodletting Begins...

Now continue with Koa Misi who can't be traded because of durability issues and Kelvin Sheppard because he sucks.

Good riddance! One step in the right direction.:up:

God, please let Dallas Thomas be next. :praying:

"Phoenician Fan wrote:

Now continue with Koa Misi who can't be traded because of durability issues and Kelvin Sheppard because he sucks.

I think there is a long list of players worse than Kelvin Sheppard on Miami's roster. I'm betting he's in the mix to be a starter next year.

"DolphinGreg wrote:

I think there is a long list of players worse than Kelvin Sheppard on Miami's roster. I'm betting he's in the mix to be a starter next year.

Bring on Myles Jack baby!

Is there any move that Gase could do to gain more fan support than letting Dallas Thomas go?

"Pandarilla wrote:

Is there any move that Gase could do to gain more fan support than letting Dallas Thomas go?

Oh come on now...too easy - sign Dan Marino as QB competition for Tannehill.

Jamar Taylor, Dallas Thomas, Walt Aikens, Greg Jennings, Jordan Cameron, Earl Thomas - I would cut them all via email because seeing their faces even one more time would make me want to vomit.

"DolphinGreg wrote:

I think there is a long list of players worse than Kelvin Sheppard on Miami's roster. I'm betting he's in the mix to be a starter next year.

He's terrible.

"tirty8 wrote:

Jamar Taylor, Dallas Thomas, Walt Aikens, Greg Jennings, Jordan Cameron, Earl Thomas - I would cut them all via email because seeing their faces even one more time would make me want to vomit.

Dang, I wish we had earl Thomas, but I think you mean Earl Mitchell. If we do convert to a base 3-4 and there is a team like say, the Browns, converting to a 4-3 we may be able to swing a trade of some kind with Mitchell being a piece. Like Mitchell for Desmond Bryant. It might not be equal value and there may need to be a pick or another player involved, but Mitchell being younger and Bryant being 30 would make it pretty even.

Jordan Cameron isn't going anywhere. He will play a significant role in Gase's offense just like Martellus Bennett did the last couple years. When he was healthy this last season he was getting more targets than anyone else on the team. Jordan Cameron will be integral to our success next year, but a restructure may be in order.

Alright cut Grimes, Misi, Jennings, Cameron, Albert, Thomas, Mitchell, and Taylor. Open that cap space.

How is Dallas Thomas not the very first cut? Every day that bum collects a dime from this franchise is a ****ing travesty.

"finfansince72 wrote:

How is Dallas Thomas not the very first cut? Every day that bum collects a dime from this franchise is a ****ing travesty.

Dallas was and is better than Fox. Fox was the worst starter on the team.

It's a glorious day in America. This is going to be a good year for us. Just have that feeling

can he play guard?

I wanted Earl Thomas over Odrick by a mile

"Pandarilla wrote:

Is there any move that Gase could do to gain more fan support than letting Dallas Thomas go?

Can he fire Tannebaum?

This is a good move. Fox has proven to be not only horrible as a starter but not even a serviceable backup. I hope we can find and develop some depth at T in the later rounds of the draft.

"finfansince72 wrote:

How is Dallas Thomas not the very first cut? Every day that bum collects a dime from this franchise is a ****ing travesty.

He isn't paid much of anything so he will probably remain on the roster until a FA or draft pick gets his spot on the 53. If nobody beats him out of that spot on the 53,IMO it will be a sign of doom.

Why are some so quick to get rid of under-performing young players? I understand that most don't want Dallas Thomas to start, but wouldn't you want his experience with the other starting linemen to be utilized as a back-up.

Looking back, one of the failures of the Philbin period is letting go limited-experienced, under-performing young players, such as J. Jerry, N. Carroll, and J. Feeney. These players did not cost their current team much, while the Dolphins' filled their positions with inexperienced rookies or wash-up veterans that couldn't make it through the season.

His experience in what? How to get the quarterback killed? I could see it now, we'd be calling Gase Philbin 2.0 or Adam Waste or some other stupid nickname for keeping Thomas around. Then....to beat all, the curse of Dallas Thomas will continue due to a significant injury to either Albert or James (my obvious guess would be Albert). This injury would force Dallas Thomas back into matador action, the season would end, Tannehill would be bleeding from his ears this time, and Ross will extend Thomas for blocking well in week 17 that brings our record to a respectable (in Ross's mind) 8-8 tally....And this will all be Dallas Thomas fault. Hell no to keeping him, HELL NO! Dude is asscheeks, somtimes clean asscheeks, but still asscheeks at football. I mean he could probably beat me up and all, but no....he's awful. I'd rather sign Stocker McDoodle out of retirement. Hell..Marc Columbo...he looks like an all pro compared to Thomas....Of course....we let Thomas go, he signs with the Pats and ends up in the pro bowl.

"sandcastle wrote:

Why are some so quick to get rid of under-performing young players? I understand that most don't want Dallas Thomas to start, but wouldn't you want his experience with the other starting linemen to be utilized as a back-up.

Looking back, one of the failures of the Philbin period is letting go limited-experienced, under-performing young players, such as J. Jerry, N. Carroll, and J. Feeney. These players did not cost their current team much, while the Dolphins' filled their positions with inexperienced rookies or wash-up veterans that couldn't make it through the season.

I think the key word here is "limited-experienced", not necessarily in terms of number of games started but in terms of how certain you are of the player's future ability.

We KNOW Dallas Thomas sucks. That's why you get rid of him even if you have to replace him with a rookie. If you're not yet that certain an underperforming player with limited experience will continue to suck in the future (i.e. if there's realistic hope he'll get better), then your argument has more merit IMO.

After three years, Dallas Thomas is still a bad pass blocker, a bad run blocker, and responsible for a ridiculous number of penalties. He still gets thrown to the ground or knocked back into the quarterback like he is on rollerskates.

No, I don't want him on the roster anymore.

"cbrad wrote:

I think the key word here is "limited-experienced", not necessarily in terms of number of games started but in terms of how certain you are of the player's future ability.

We KNOW Dallas Thomas sucks. That's why you get rid of him and if you have to replace him with a rookie. If you're not yet that certain an underperforming player with limited experience will continue to suck in the future (i.e. if there's realistic hope he'll get better), then your argument has more merit IMO.

Cutting Thomas may require filling 2 spots - a starting G and one of the 2-3 back-up lineman on the gameday active roster. As bad as he is, he's not as bad as the choice the team had during his redshirt rookie year. Maintaining depth is my primary concern and since we haven't had any starting OL from the bottom of the roster, I would be very careful with trying to fill many roles from the draft.

As Thomas joined the team, the previous strategy of back-ups with potential starting capabilities (Garner, Berger, and Murtha) started to disintegrate. They earned collectively the same amount of salary as the 2nd highest paid OL. In other words, our back-up OL plans has been as ineffective and costly as the plan to fill starting roles so why not fill back-up slots with failed starters.