The Bess End Around

I think maybe they know their players better than we do.

 

henning lost his mind for a minute
he averages two of these cerebral hiccups per game

 

they must've saw something in the defense, but still...end around with bess?

 

They should take that play out of the playbook and have a ritual burning.

That play has NEVER worked, to my recollection. It works against Bess's strengths, and our Receivers (read: Ginn, Fasano, Haynos) simply don't block well enough in space to make it work given Bess's lack of straight-ahead speed.

 

The only reason I can think of would be that it's unexpected. Sometimes, though, plays are unexpected for good reason.

 

My guess is: They didn't trust Ginn to run that one, given his crappy cleats (or was it him not being able to keep a steady center of gravity when turning)

But yeah, that play was a bit of a headscratcher.

 

He ran the end-around earlier fine.

 

ginn ran a similar play for 16 or so yards earlier on

why bess why then
henne was on fire
just stupid play calling

 

Speaking of which: what the **** was up with that?

You'd think that by the 4th quarter Ginn would have figured out that he needed longer cleats in order to execute the moves he wanted to make.

Or, after practicing and playing in rainy Miami for 3 years.

 

If he doesnt fumble we are not sitting here talking about it.

 

regardless of the fumble
henning blew the play call

 

I do not agree. The guy is one of the slowest players on the offense, might as well run an end around with Jake Long.

 

I'm going to agree. While I didn't like the call at all, Looking at it this way seems to make some sense. Maybe they thought that the Jags might think it would be a fake to him, thinking we'd never in a million years run an end around to Bess. Maybe the coaches did think it would be a good "trick" and actually give Bess the ball. Sounds crazy, but who knows really.

Even if that is the case, knowing the Bess hurt his ankle earlier in the game, why try it? I'm not sure, all I know is we won, we overcame it and the other turnovers and came out with the win.

 

True, might try to pull the def up to see if they have a fault to take advantage of on another play.

 

uh I don't think they do or else they wouldn't run a end around with Bess.....

It was a horrible play call and should never be ran again.

 

I don't get why anyone would be upset with using Bess on an End around. Besides the obvious "It didn't work" its a good call. Bess is cut from a mold very similar to Welker and the Pats use him on end arounds all the time. Bess is our punt returner, as well as our receiver and as such possesses (at least in the eys of the coaches) good ball skills. So using him on a play like that is right up his alley. It's also the same reason they like to use him on buble screens (exactly the same reason the Pats love to use Welker on them I suppose).

I Like Bess as much as the next guy but the only thing wrong with the play was its execution.

 

how much time a week do you put in with the miami players at practices?

how much do they?

 

It was one questionable call, if he had been tackled and not fumbled no harm no foul. If he had busted it for a touchdown you would all be saying it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

Bess is slow and not as quick as Welker. He is not an end around player.

The only thing wrong with that play was having a playing who is slow running an end around. I wouldn't agree if they had Fasano or Haynos either.

 

That would have taken some amazing blocking.

 

It certainly would have. I don't mind the end around, I prefer Ginn to run it only because that means that Ginn is not out there trying to block.

 

I prefer Ginn to run it because that it can actually be successful. Hell Camarillo would have been better

 

Bess isn't the guy you want to run the End around. His strong suit isn't running sideline to sideline.

 

Um...how often do the bubble screens to Bess work? Seems to me they work very rarely. Bess is not as fast as Welker...comparing Bess to Welker is silly, IMO. I rage every time they run that stupid bubble screen to Bess. Throw a screen to Ginn.
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Thats not true at all. The fumble does not bother me nearly as the play itself. Your taking a quick but not fast guy at all and running a play that takes a ton of speed to execute. I very much question that call whether he fumbles or not.

 

If Bess doesn't fumble the play looses a whopping two yards. Big deal. Its now second down and 12 from the Jag's 35 Yard line. If we don't gain another Yard we are still in Field goal range. I agree with a lot of other folks in this thread, if there isnt a fumble there isn't a thread. So not only do I Not blame Henning, I blame Bess for the fumble and this thread lol =)

 

How could the fumble NOT bother you and yet a call that lost us two yards does??

 

i think it was them trying to throw in a surprise play like has been previously mentioned.

henning seems to like to do that.

 

you like losing yards burning downs and playing for field goals
i don't
that play came from out of nowhere
had nothing to do with what was working
fumble or not

 

First off please don't tell me what I like or what I don't like. Secondly you run the risk of losing yards each time you snap the ball. Most of the time including this one when you do lose yards its because of execution more than the call its self.

 

so you didn't question that call when you were watching the game
our possession wr running an end around
the call was crap

 

No I didn't. I was to busy screaming at at Bess for putting the ball on the carpet. Something he has done way to often this year.

 

Had he not fumbled the ball, would this even be an issue?

 

I do not agree with that at all. It is a deal because the play had little chance for success.

Having an end around with Bess is like buying 1,000 lottery tickets with the same numbers.

 

yes, yes it would.