***The 2011 MLB Trading Deadline Thread***

Pretty surprising trade with K-Rod going to MIL, I would have put bets on Texas or possibly Philly. Really out of the blue there. The Brewers have one of the worst minor league systems in the game so the Mets probably aren't getting anything even decent back but this was more of a trade to free up payroll and make sure that vesting option doesn't kick in.

 

Seattle needs to get a bat before the season is lost. I give it a 5% chance though.

 

Seattle needs like 4 bats (3B, LF, SS and DH although they can live with Ryan's bat since he's a very good fielder) but I hope they get at least one and really try to contend with the 3 starters they have.

 

Have to think the Padres will deal Heath Bell and maybe Mike Adams, of the two I'd suspect Adams will garner more attention as his contract for 2012 is quite affordable and he is a proven setup man who can close.

 

No Link as this is from my fantasy baseball team. However, Ramirez has already stated he won't wave his no trade clause. We'll see if that rings true I guess.

 

I'd be surprised if any team wants him due to his contract for next year becomes a player option if he is traded and the team would be on the hook for 17 million I believe. But this could also be ploy by the player to try and get something extra out of the team getting him.

 

yea, Rami is a good player, but not worth 17 million. and I would highly doubt he wouldnt exercise his option with a dollar figure as such.

 

Exactly right, the years left on a contract is very important and make the difference in getting Elvis Andrus, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Matt Harrison, etc package instead of Casey Kotchman and Steven Morek package. That's why the Padres should really look to trade Adams this year.

Especially since the Angels are claiming they don't have any money to spend due to the bad contracts (Wells, Kazmir) they took on. Even with the lack of depth at the 3B position in the MLB I'd be shocked if anyone would pay that much for Ramirez at this stage of his career.

 

Finyank.

I would be SHOCKED if Kemp is traded. Even with all the turmoil, the Dodgers need to have somethign to sell this team on, and right now, it is Clayton Kershaw and Matt Kemp. I COULD see Andre Ethier being traded for the right package of major league ready prospects, though. I expect Hiroki Kuroda to be dealt, somewher eon the west coast. The poor guy is extremely solid and gets zero support.

The Dodgers actually have a decent, young starting staff in Kershaw, Rubby De La Rosa and Billingsley. They also have Zach Lee in the minors who looks to be up probably next year. I look for them to sell off players like Ted Lilly, Kuroda and possibly Broxton if he comes back in time.

I also could see them trading Rafeal Furcal and Casey Blake simply to rid themselves of their veteran salaries. I would LOVE to see them get rid of Juan Uribe, but it most likely won't happen if they dump Furcal/Blake.

 

I hope the braves get that jose canseco fella.

 

I think it would be extremely smart for the Dodgers to trade Ethier. Last year on his contract, and hes most likely going to demand big money in the off season, and hes not worth it. Hes a good player, no doubt. But somehow he got this superstar label, and hes simply not that. I could see a big market for Ethier. Both the Yankees and Red Sox could use him. and that alone would drive the price up.

 

Teddy Higuera is on the comeback trail...

I'd like to see Atlanta land Mike Adams from the padres to act as a first class setup man.

 

Agreed, well said. Not sure how or why Ethier is mentioned as a superstar either and gets grouped in with Kemp. Like you said he's a good player but not a superstar.

I don't see Ethier in Boston as he's not a good defensive OFer and RF in Fenway is very tough to play. Plus I don't think the Sox will spend the money or prospects to go for him. I think they'd be fine sticking Kalish and/or Reddick there.

 

I would highly doubt the Red Sox would get Ethier either, more because I dont think they would give up the prospects to upgrade one of, if not, the best lineup in baseball. They have enough offense and they could use other positions, like a starting pitcher.

However, If Yankees go to jump in the Ethier sweepstakes, Boston will be right there trying to "acquire" him. and by acquire, I mean acting interested, but really just driving the price up.

 

Who said the Sox are trying to trade for Beltran though? I'm sure Theo called up the Mets to see what it would take but that doesn't mean he's serious about Beltran, just that he's doing his job. If the Sox make a deal for Beltran than we can talk about it, personally I don't think the Sox would give up players for Beltran simply because they wouldn't get any picks back for him. And I think adding Beltran to RF over Drew/Reddick/McDonald/Whoever would only equal I believe 1.3 extra wins which wouldn't really make a big difference in making the playoffs.

 

I'm thinking Rizzo is being sent down. He was killing the ball in Triple A this year and force SD's hand at calling him up but clearly he's not ready for MLB pitching yet.

 

Not only is he 21 but he missed a full year of development due to cancer when he was in the Red Sox system, so he's a young 21 year old. He was forcing their hand because he was destroying Triple A pitching with a stat line of .365/.444/.715/1.159 with 16 HRs in 52 games.

 

So when A-Gone wins AL MVP, and Rizzo washes out, and Kelly still has a over 4.00 ERA, will the BoSox hire Jed Hoyer back?

He was bent over on that trade and it still bothers me to this day, understand why A-Gone had to be traded, thought Hoyer absolutely got worked by Boston.

 

Nice to see you're still set in your foolish ways of writing off a player after 117 MLB plate appearances for a 21 year old. You probably would have written a 23 and 24 year old Adrian Gonzalez too back in 2004 and 2005. Believe it or not not everyone comes into the league and hits like Albert Pujols right away, baseball is a hard game.

It's your opinion that Hoyer was worked over on the Gonzalez trade but almost everyone that deals with scouting prospects for a living (Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, Keith Law at ESPN) said it was a good package SD got in return. I get the feeling that no matter who San Diego got in return you wouldn't have been happy with.

 

Not looking good for Mr Rizzo, Agone had 200 ab's in texas and produced more, and was the #1 overall pick in 2000 also hit 7 hr's in those limited at bats, Rizzo has been lost at the plate.

And A-Gone was coming back from a wrist issue at that point in time.

Heh, MLB "scouts" are far less accurate then even NFL scouts, by an order of magnitude as their busts take far more time to work their way through a farm system, as an example:

Law came out with his "Top 50 prospects" did not include Kelly, released an updated one, included Kelly, even though he had done nothing differently, same player, same performance, Law merely added the caveat of "he has 4 pitches but has to show he can do more with them"

Oh, that's nice. same thing that was said of "the guy who we would never have made the deal for if he wasn't included", he has no command of his pitches, last yr it was he had only been a pitcher in the minors for 2 yrs, this yr it is he has to show he can do more, next yr I suspect it will be "now or never" etc.

 

Think he was #3 in the Sox farm system.

last two yrs far more hits then ip's, sounds like he pitches in trouble a lot on the plus side he got his ERA down to 3.99 in double A ball..championship!

Rizzo was hitting .143...

 

Disagree FY, a pitcher can spin it, or they can't, a hitter is very different and far more difficult to judge.

Either way though, to quote Jurrassic Park: "our future is in your hands and you've got butterfingers?"

Looking at you Jed.

 

The Marlins have nothing to sell.

Can't deal starting pitching due to lack of depth. And guys like Infante and Dobbs are bench players.

Maybe Leo can fetch something decent in return.

 

Haven't seen anything on that anywhere but I'd have to assume it's either for Upton or Farnsworth. I know a lot of the media was speculating on an Upton for one of the Reds' catching prospects. We'll see though.