Ted Wells: “More probable than not” Patriots manipulated balls

Tom Brady's legacy is tainted & I love it! How many scandals has there been involving the Patriots?

This is all going to go down worse than it should because of the non-cooperation and the lying to investigators.

The Falcons piped in crowd noise. That probably has about as much effect on the game as what the Patriots did. But they got off with a slap on the wrist because they fully cooperated in every way, fessed up to it immediately even before the investigation concluded.

Patriots are going to get a more severe punishment than they otherwise would. This could be nothing more than a $25,000 fine.

Don't suspend Brady, just suspend all the starters on the offensive line for the season.

I f**king HATE the Patriots...

"jboogie wrote:

Don't suspend Brady, just suspend all the starters on the offensive line for the season.

The Wake/Suh dongs shall feast.

"finyank13 wrote:

It starts with their 1st and 2nd next year and a 5M dollar fine, remember this is the SECOND TIME they got caught.....

And honestly don't tell me that BB didn't know....I have said it all along this has been their practice for many games now, if fact it is so common place that they don't even discuss it anymore, it is just known, "do it"....

If your wife for 15 years made you chicken parm without mozzarella cheese but instead American (nobody does that hahahah) you think in year 16 or 17 she is going to all a sudden ask you if you want mozzarella on your chicken parm? No she doesn't this is the way you want your dish, it goes without saying.....

Insert footballs into the above statement and think on it....

If they had any intention of punishment they would have done it before the draft not after.

Let's see if Goodell has any balls. Anything less than a year's suspension will be disappointing to me.

"heylookatme wrote:

This report is devastating to the Patriots, even if Goodell goes easy on them.

They won the Super Bowl again do you really think they give a damn?

"LiferYank wrote:

If they had any intention of punishment they would have done it before the draft not after.

This doesn't make sense. Didn't the report just come out today?

"LiferYank wrote:

They won the Super Bowl again do you really think they give a damn?

And that should be taken away too along with there bounce money's !!!

McNally: Tom sucks...im going make that next ball a f----- balloon
Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done
Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though
Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn... The refs f----- us...a few of then were at almost 16
Jastremski: They didnt recheck then after they put air in them
McNally: F--- tom ...16 is nothing...wait till next sunday
Jastremski: Omg! Spaz

"More probable then not" my ass.... Sick and tired of the kitten gloves for the Pats.

should be 4 games for brady and a future first round pick

Dude, its really gonna come down to how hard some media/reporters want to treat this. If they sugar-coat it like Wells, it'll be a f*cking travesty and they won't feel any pain from this. If a few reputable, respected sports journalists take the hardcore road, it could get uglier for them. How much does the NFL control all that is my question.

Appears Troy Vincent will be deciding the punishment...come on Troy...you know we loves ya. Full year suspension for Marcia, lose first 2 2016 draft picks, and a $5M fine on the organization. Anything less is a joke IMHO.

And no...I don't think they'll catch that much, but I can dream...

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

Dude, its really gonna come down to how hard some media/reporters want to treat this. If they sugar-coat it like Wells, it'll be a f*cking travesty and they won't feel any pain from this. If a few reputable, respected sports journalists take the hardcore road, it could get uglier for them. How much does the NFL control all that is my question.

Appears Troy Vincent will be deciding the punishment...come on Troy...you know we loves ya. Full year suspension for Marcia, lose first 2 2016 draft picks, and a $5M fine on the organization. Anything less is a joke IMHO.

And no...I don't think they'll catch that much, but I can dream...

Troy Vincent will be deciding the punishment? I thought Goodell did that?

"LiferYank wrote:

McNally: Tom sucks...im going make that next ball a f----- balloon
Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done
Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though
Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn... The refs f----- us...a few of then were at almost 16
Jastremski: They didnt recheck then after they put air in them
McNally: F--- tom ...16 is nothing...wait till next sunday
Jastremski: Omg! Spaz

"More probable then not" my ass.... Sick and tired of the kitten gloves for the Pats.

well, they are pu kittens.

Anyone seen McLovin? :lol:

Im upto page 20 of the report. As bad as the news headlines are for Brady, the report is that much more damning. They kill Brady in the report and leave no room for any alternative possibilty other than his complicit involvement. There are a whole web of lies they have uncovered. This is nuts

During his interview, Brady denied any knowledge of or involvement in any efforts to deflate game balls after the pre-game inspection by the game officials. He claimed that prior to the events surrounding the AFC Championship Game, he did not know McNally‟s name or anything about McNally‟s game-day responsibilities, including whether McNally had any role relating to game balls or the game officials. We found these claims not plausible and contradicted by other evidence. In fact, during his interview, Jastremski acknowledged that Brady knew McNally and McNally‟s role as Officials Locker Room attendant.

Tom Brady...declined to make available any documents or electronic information (including text messages and emails) that we requested, even though those requests were limited to the subject matter of our investigation (such as messages concerning the preparation of game balls, air pressure of balls, inflation of balls or deflation of balls) and we offered to allow Brady‟s counsel to screen and control the production so that it would be limited strictly to responsive materials and would not involve our taking possession of Brady‟s telephone or other electronic devices. Our inability to review contemporaneous communications and other documents in Brady‟s possession and control related to the matters under review potentially limited the discovery of relevant evidence and was not helpful to the investigation.

As noted, there was a significant exception to the cooperation provided by the Patriots. Although we requested a follow-up interview of Jim McNally after our initial interview, counsel for the Patriots refused our request. We offered to conduct the interview at any time or location that would be convenient for McNally, and explained—both in writing and in-person during other meetings—that our follow-up questions would be limited to subject matter directly relevant to the investigation that was developed following our initial interview with McNally.

McNally was one of the earliest Patriots personnel interviewed by our investigative team and a number of important follow-up questions had arisen based on subsequent interviews and information discovered after our initial interview of McNally. Counsel for the Patriots, however, declined to produce McNally, and communicated an unwillingness even to advise McNally of our request for a follow-up interview. We do not know definitively whether McNally was, in fact, informed of our request. The investigative process would have benefited from further questioning of McNally on certain topics, and we believe that the actions of the Patriots and their counsel in this regard are inconsistent both with the club‟s public pronouncements of full cooperation with the investigation and its obligations under Section 2 of the Policy on Integrity of the Game & Enforcement of Competitive Rules.

We made written requests to counsel for the Patriots on February 28, March 2, 3, 9 and 17 for a follow-up interview with McNally. Counsel for the Patriots repeatedly refused to make McNally available for a reinterview claiming, among other things, that McNally lived more than an hour away and already had missed work at his full-time job to attend earlier interviews. In addition, counsel for the Patriots asked that we provide in advance the subjects we proposed to cover, submit written interrogatories, and stated that “you have given me very little incentive or basis to try to get him back once more.” As noted above, we offered to meet with McNally at any time and any location that was convenient and explained that it would not be appropriate from an investigative standpoint to disclose in advance the specific subjects we intended to cover. We cautioned counsel for the Patriots in writing that: the “refusal to make Mr. McNally available for a brief follow-up interview raises serious concerns and is inconsistent with the obligations of the Patriots under the League Rules to provide „full support and cooperation‟ in the investigation. We also believe it is inconsistent with the public expressions of cooperation by the Patriots.” Counsel for the Patriots continued to refuse to make McNally available as requested.

Patriots personnel explained that the footage captured by security cameras in Gillette Stadium isoverwritten every 10 days as a regular practice. We were, therefore, unable to review footage filmed during prior Patriots home games, which may have proved useful.

Probably get a slap on the wrist.

This just gets crazier and crazier. Dont know if there's a correlation here, but the evidence is really piling up!

McNally‟s responsibilities with the Patriots previously came under review by the NFL in connection with an incident involving game balls in 2004. According to a letter dated November 2, 2004, from then-NFL Director of Game Operations Peter Hadhazy and a memorandum dated October 25, 2004, from Richard Farley, the NFL Security Representative assigned to New England, that incident involved Patriots ball boys relaying supposed “approved” game balls that actually were non-approved practice balls to a game official during an October 25, 2004 regular season game.

I found it interesting in the texts after the Jets game, Brady was quoted as complaining that the balls were over-inflated, starting that they were supposed to be 13psi. So, apparently, he didn't always want then under-inflated.

"Jt0323 wrote:

Probably get a slap on the wrist.

I don't think so. Not this time.

Damn, surferosa is way ahead of me and ruining all the good parts. :lol:

"CashInFist wrote:

I don't think so. Not this time.

I really hope not. Brady should atleast get a 2 game suspension, team should lose 1st or 2nd round pick. I think first to send them a message. Not the first time they were found cheating. They need to hit them hard to make sure they dont do this again. And a heavy fine