Tebow/Gators/Jan. 2010

So much hatred this morning, Ray??

Yes that schedule does not look that daunting. However, look at their one loss this season... Ole Miss. You never know who is going to be good. Not many predicted Bama in the SEC title game this year... So lets let it play out before we crown the Gators.

 

Its a very easy schedule I will agree, But there are some tough games. FSU, Georgia, LSU, SEC title game, and if we are lucky a National title game oppenet

 

Is LSU going to get better than last year?? Did they lose alot of players?? Obviously I dont follow the SEC so I wouldnt know also Georgia could be very average losing their top offensive players.

 

LSU will still have playmakers on both side of the ball. Besides their home field is a serious home field advantage. I am sure they will get better QB play as well.



Georgia will have very nice Oline and Running back, But finding a QB will be there problem. I would not be shocked if they start a true freshman because the guy they have coming in can play. Their Defense will be around where it was this year

 

Not even Utahish? Are you ****ing kidding me? We by no means have a tougher schedule next year than we had this year(as of right now anyways), but Utah and the MWC are an absolute joke when it comes to scheduling. TCU does not belong in the top 10, I would be willing to put money on SEC teams with more losses(and therefore lower ranking) compared to the MWC teams who play the unstoppable forces that are Air Force, San Diego State, Wyoming, New Mexico year in and year out. I mean who would have thought that with a tough conference like the MWC, that any team could possibly go undefeated?

Looking at the other 2 ranked teams from the MWC, TCU and BYU...they would be near bottom feeders in the SEC IMO. People that want to point to the Sugar Bowl to argue about MWC vs SEC and ignore the fact that Bama had nothing to play for must really enjoy basking in ignorance. I would love to see a Bama-Utah set added to their schedules. I would be shocked if Utah could even beat Ole Miss.

 

Gee's man....you UF fans are an emotional group thats for sure.

 

Oh please. You havn't been having to put up with idiotic Ute fans that have been trolling the Internet with a hard on ever since they managed to beat a soul-less Bama team. Coming onto UF boards claiming they are the real champions gets old fast. The fact is, when someone makes a comparison claiming UF's schedule is laughable compared to Utah's(the epitome of a joke), I am going to point out how ridiculous that is.

 

Im not taking any sides Im just saying if anyone questions your team or your conference some of you guys get a little hostile.

 

It is not even about "questioning my team". I don't know why you would assume that I cannot take "questioning", but it gets frustrating putting up with people who do things like complain about UF's schedule, all the while putting Utah up on a pedestal. They have an absolute joke of a conference and schedule.

Just go spend 2 minutes on the UF board at ESPN or other places, you will see it packed with morons claiming that the NC is tainted and that we didn't deserve it. This is a team from the MWC we are talking about after all.

 

Still you have totake it for what it is....a group of fans who feel betrayed by a flawed system, just because they disagree with you doesnt make them a "moron".

Florida has the crystal ball in the case thats all that should matter. Just seems like they get your blood pressure up a little too much.

 

I believe they should go out of the state of Florida for their OCS

 

We have a home and home starting with the "U" then one with Oklahoma. We finish the 2nd leg of USC in the shoe next year( I'll be there) and split with Texas in years both us and them made the BCS game.

There are going to be your in state schools no question but its nice to see our A.D scheduling the powerhouses.

I think I read where we tried to schedule a home and home with FSU but they didnt wanna play us on the road.

 

I would never say Florida doesn't deserve the NC, but I would certainly enjoy seeing them play Utah and/or Texas (or the winner between those two at least).

 

I'm not a big fan of the SEC because I think they are sometimes thought of too highly but there's no doubt in my mind that if your playing in the SEC, you have a tough schedule. There are some bottom feeders, just like in every conference, but I think that overall, the schedule in the SEC is difficult.

 

Or USC for that matter...

 

Good call.

 

I think we have an obvious misunderstanding here. I am in no way defending the BCS system. I have been long calling for a playoff structure that could actually include obscure teams like Utah and BSU given the right circumstances. However, we have the current BCS system due to one reason. It created an atmosphere where the #1 and #2 ranked teams in the nation guaranteed for the National Championship. I do not think it is the most fair system and I would love to see it changed asap.

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Actually I referred to the Ute fans who trolled UF message boards "idiotic" declaring themselves the champions, not their fans in general.

Beating all of the teams on their schedule shouldn't be an automatic bid into the National Championship. Otherwise we would be seeing things like Boise St. vs Utah. ****ing ridiculous that would be my friend. I do feel though that they should be able to be included in a playoff system. However I am not so sure that the current BCS system would easily allow them in if we simply move to a +1.

The SEC is in decline, yet we have won the last 3 BCS championships(now 5-0 in BCSNCG) and the only SEC team to get embarrassed in this bowl year was Alabama, who indisputably had nothing at all to play for.

I do believe Texas was shafted. If the Big 12 had rules similar to the SEC, they would have been in, nuff said on that.

I really don't see where any complaint has any kind of validity about our loss to Ole Miss. They put a beat down on TTU and Grahm Harrel. We lost by a blocked extra point that would have tied the game with a few minutes to go.

The fact is, we lost. But so did the other teams in the top of the rankings. For someone to suggest that the best way to structure these teams for a 1v2 championship game is to just look at who they lost to and nothing else is ludicrous. Strength of schedule & winning a top conference far outweighs looking at who the L came from.

Utah's SOS was ranked #88th in the nation. That is simply unacceptable for anyone to claim they deserved to be in the NCCG simply because "they beat all the teams on their schedule".

I really hope you can see just how asinine it is to sit there commenting on how this team will have X number of losses next year.

Injuries happen, so can shockers like Ole Miss vs UF 2008. The SEC should be given more credit as a whole than you are allowing. What do you think the best conference is? I'm going to assume you will bark out the Big12. Does it not look bad at all that one of the top teams(and who was included in NCCG discussions towards the end) lost to the "dreadful Ole Miss"? Texas barely edges out OSU and the supposed "best offense ever" gets put down by UF's defense.

Now, UF's defense is great don't get me wrong, they easily along with Harvin were the MVPs of the big game IMO. But there just isn't a lot of separation between UF and many other SEC defenses'. Tim Tebow is obviously what really sets us apart from the pack, for one more year anyways.

If you ask any player from any school about what their ultimate goal was for the end of the season, 100% of them will say it is to play in the BCSNCG. Until we implement another system that is, but we will most likely have to sacrifice our beloved intense CFB seasons. No longer will be the days where every game matters once that transition is made. I think it will be worth it though, just so that the championship will be less clouted with sour grapes.

The problem still lies in that Ute fans are seeking to be given the credit for going undefeated as enough to get them into a championship game. Unfortunately for them, the system sees right through that #88th ranked schedule for what it really is.

 

It is a flawed system but that doesnt mean that Florida's title is tainted in any way, you are gonna have teams that try and stake their claim until we get a playoff. This wouldve been an awesome year if we had a playoff but what can you do?? UF is the champs they beat a worthy opponent in Oklahoma end of story.

 

I love your optimism Ray! I hope it goes down like you say just bc that pretty much gives us the championship.

Again though, I stick to the fact that college football is extremely unpredictable. Which is why most of us think it is the best sport out there. Every year USC is stacked with talent and they typically lose to some team that has no business beating them. Lately same can be said of UF. Which is why I do agree, I think Utah got shafted. However, I think there are a few teams that can say that this year. So yeah, the system is flawed, but it is all we have right now.

As for the SEC being down... they only lost 2 games in the Bowl season. One of which Spurrier just looked like he had a lost team. The other, just did not seem like themselves (for whatever reason-maybe just the talent of Utah). If I am not mistaken the SEC was underdogs in almost every match up. So I am not sure I would say they are down too much. Still have some of the best coaches in the Nation.

 

So you think it should have been Texas vs Oklahoma for the NCCG? Even after Texas barely edging out Ohio State and UO losing? That would be a joke. Texas should have won their conference if the Big12 didn't have stupid rules, so they did get shafted there. But in no way should they have gotten UF's spot.

LOL, BCS top ten. So you are acting as if TCU is a powerhouse just because they similarly to Utah, play absolutely nobody all season long and collect wins against cupcakes? I would love to see these teams play through SEC schedules year in year out. Not to mention that Alabama, once again had absolutely nothing to play for against Utah. If they beat Utah, they would be given no credit for accomplishing anything, and they were the #1 ranked team in the nation for over a month going into the game right before Utah where they had their hopes ruined. Now Utah on the other hand, felt like they weren't given enough respect and had a chance to stick it to one of the top SEC teams. Let's not act as if the Utah win against Alabama is anything spectacular given those circumstances.

Maybe you should seek out the definition of the word asinine.

The numbers aren't anywhere close, especially when you factor in how unimpressive the ranked teams they even played are. *cough* TCU, and why do you keep falling back on that win vs Bama as if it proved anything substantial?

 

3 losses and they're done, no way they play for the title short of a complete down year in college football. And even if they do play for the title I wouldnt hand them anything. They should be the favorites next year but how often does the favorite go wire to wire?

 

Not very often but I believe FSU did it in '99.

 

You made comments declaring how many losses various teams will have next year. That is just ridiculous. Nobody cares what some random fan thinks about how many losses this or that team will have next season. You don't know a damn thing about what you are talking about with comments like that. It is absolutely pointless.

You can cry all you want about my listing of ranks, but that doesn't change the fact that TCU & Utah did absolutely nothing to prove that they deserve their ranking. My comments have more to do with their schedules than their current ranking. I have held steadfast on the position that it doesn't mean **** to go undefeated when you consistently play some of the worst teams in the nation.

You are representative of a hater with sour grapes. All I ever did was point out how idiotic people are for declaring Utah the national champs, and then you had difficulty comprehending basic English to the point that you go and accuse me of lambasting their entire fan base. Then you go and use the whole mantra of "oh my they were undefeated". Why is it that to some people going undefeated means so much when you have an absolutely atrocious strength of schedule?

Maybe UF should leave the SEC if this is the case, really what is the point to playing difficult teams if we always have to hear this bull**** from teams who play in the worst conferences in college football?

 

[mod] lets stay on topic with this please [/mod]

 

Ummm.....bitter much.

 

So the truth is out...you are a self declared Hater.