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Tannehill's Gruden camp

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ThickbloodedPhin, May 25, 2013.

  1. ThickbloodedPhin

    ThickbloodedPhin New Member

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    anyone have a link? I tried re-watching it a while back and youtube pulled most of that class except for RG3.
     
  2. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    http://vimeo.com/64299379

    [video=vimeo;64299379]http://vimeo.com/64299379[/video]

     
  3. ThickbloodedPhin

    ThickbloodedPhin New Member

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    thanks! that was fast
     
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  4. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That was actually pretty awesome to watch. Thanks!!
     
  5. Zippy

    Zippy The Man in Black. Club Member

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    Enjoyed that! Thanks
     
  6. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Saweet replay.

    Dolphins got the keys to that great prospect.:up:
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I see nothing, where's the link?
     
  8. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    http://vimeo.com/64299379

    I posted as Video and shows up for me and others. If i post using the Link Icon does this work for ya?

    This seems to work, thanks i'll add that also to my post. Should have remembered that videos do not always show up especially on handhelds.
     
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  9. Jt0323

    Jt0323 Fins Up! Luxury Box

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    Thanks! killed some time while waiting for Arrested Development. Tanny has a good head on his shoulder. Has a good backup plan if things don't work out!

    Seems to have a lot of football knowledge!
     
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  10. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    After watching him play as a rookie i enjoyed seeing it again also.
     
  11. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Is he the only Gruden Camp guy that wears business casual to the meeting?
     
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  12. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Moderator Staff Member Club Member

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    Gotta like how they managed to get Lauren Tannehill off in the distance during the on-field portion.
     
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  13. ATLFINFAN

    ATLFINFAN Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Really enjoyed watching this.

    Thanks
     
  14. PlanB

    PlanB New Member

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    Tanny will be the breakout QB this year no doubt. I remember all that suck for Luck talk.........I honestly think we got the best QB available.
     
  15. Killer Bees

    Killer Bees Bringin' the Ruckus

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    lol right RGIII was wearing under armor and those goofy *** socks.
     
  16. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I liked watching these, but I was always bothered by Gruden talking about developing quarterbacks.
     
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  17. frozenfin

    frozenfin Well-Known Member

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    That was awesome.
     
  18. Boik14

    Boik14 Admin Club Member Retired Administrator

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    I liked how he kept talking about how much he loved football because even if he doesnt love getting hit, if you can convince your teammates your willing to take the shot to make the play they will fight for you. You see it all the time on bad teams. The QB doesnt want to get hit so the receivers dont fight for the ball, the backs dont fight for extra yards and the linemen dont want to fight to the next level or sustain their blocks. You can talk about QB as a vocal leadership position but its also a physical leadership position. You may not be the best QB but if you convince your team youre the best for them then they fight for you. You have to love football to want to do those things. I saw a team fight for Ryan Tannehill last year. We werent the best or most skilled but just about every player fought. Just one of the reasons I believe hes the future of this team...because you can tell the team believes hes the future.
     
  19. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    I was awestruck with how intelligent he was.
    I think Football IQ is a more important trait than arm strength.
     
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  20. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    I got bored and watched this again. Then went and browse through the past FFCA stuff. I like how Gruden was able to get Tanee up on the white board by himself. I decided to watch some others RG3, Wilson. Nassib, Geno this yr . Notice how Gruden's show neglects the whiteboard or he does it for the player (Gruden is writing up formation). Tanee ran for that board and set it all up himself, love our guy.
     
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  21. jazz

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    pause at 18:50
     
  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Not his specialty as a pro coach.. He sure did like his vets..

    But damn could he coach Pate.

    I would like to see him get his next gig and go after that multiple threat Qb, and see what he could do from scratch.
     
  23. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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  24. Alex13

    Alex13 Welcome to the NEW Miami Club Member

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    "whats your favorite drug on campus" lol..."not bad" mariucci said
     
  25. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I dunno, player development is pretty fundamental to coaching in my mind.

    Gruden is a pretty good offensive mind, and I was sold on him taking the job here for a while but he's more of an executive offensive coordinator than an elite head coach in my mind. Gruden I think needs to fall into the right circumstances to be successful in the same context a Mike Martz, Norv Turner, etc. does.
     
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  26. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    That made me laugh because Geno actually looked like he was debating giving an answer. Like "Should I?"
     
  27. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    What constitutes a coach who can develop a player and one who cannot?, what special skillset do they have over the other and what does it mean in your opinion in a tangible sort of way to be a good developer of talent?
     
  28. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    Pls tell me, im like you i ask questions to validate my opinion. So tell us your take Deej.
     
  29. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Its the difference between being a guy who only rallies the troops (Sparano) and a guy who considers himself a teacher first (Philbin).
     
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  30. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I agree, it's all about teaching. In my experience, the best teachers are skilled at connecting with students who learn/think in different ways. Some people learn by listening, some are kinesthetic learners. Different students will be able to understand or visualize some examples and not others. The best teachers can see whether or not what they're teaching is getting through and can use different examples or methods to get their lesson understood.
     
  31. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Its the reason for my much publicized man-crush on Philbin.

    In one of the first interviews I had seen of him, he was talking to a reporter in what looked like a hotel lobby. He explained how he was first and foremost a teacher and seemed to even take that approach with the reporter. It was such a welcome sight after Wannidiot, Cameron, Saban and Sparano.
     
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  32. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That's one of the reasons I'm so high on RT. It's obvious that he thinks about his craft all the time. I think that the people who become great at something often tend to have a slightly obsessive attraction to that subject. They tend to singularly focused. They're probably boring people when discussing any other subject b/c they're not particularly knowledgeable or all that interested in other stuff. But you get them on their craft and they'll work/talk/think about it ad nauseum. I think Luck is probably like that too. I don't see it in RG3. He's bright and a great talent, but my impression is that football is just what he's doing now. I also think RG3 is fragile and has little pocket/running awareness. I don't think the odds of RG3 having a long career are high. Wilson, I love b/c his instincts are the best of the bunch, but I see him as limited physically relative to the others. He can still be great like Montana was, but he'll need the right team around him. Montana with SF was arguably the best QB ever, but Montana with KC would probably not have been in the best ever discussion. (I know it was later in his career, but IMO Montana in KC his whole career would have had a lesser level of success).
     
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  33. Stringer Bell

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    Nick Saban is a great teacher IMO.
     
  34. rafael

    rafael Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wouldn't call Saban a great teacher. It seems to me that he's a great football mind (possibly the best football mind out there) and has a great system, but he only teaches things one way. He's the bully who who mostly just uses the stick. It works for some students, but not for most. That's part of the reason he wasn't successful in the pros. He couldn't intimidate adults as easily. IMO a great teacher can teach students of all kinds.
     
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  35. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Based on what though?
     
  36. Stringer Bell

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    The players he coaches. Just look at the technique they have coming into the pros. They're usually much more developed than their peers.

    I do think he was relatively successful as a coach in the pros. His problem was he ended up with a bad QB.

    It certainly is fair to say that his coaching style only works with certain players. I think that also applies to a coach like Philbin though. There are certain types of players I don't think Philbin wants to deal with. Most successful coaches aren't going to work with every type of player.
     
  37. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    That doesn't mean he's a good teacher. It would mean there are good teachers on his staff. It also means they are excellent recruiters.
     
  38. Stringer Bell

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    And he just lucked into having a staff full of great teachers? Where did they learn from? I'm not sure what recruiting has to do with it though. 5-star HS recruits aren't going to come to college with the requisite fundamentals to make it in the pros.
     
  39. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Did you just make an argument that posits all the coaches on the Alabama staff learned how to be a teacher from Saban?
     
  40. Stringer Bell

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    No. I think it was clear I gave credit to Saban for being able to teach coaches as well as players. I'm sure they learned from other great teachers as well. It is important to note though, that a lot of what is being taught to Alabama players are things that Saban has essentially invented himself. Hell, Saban is teaching NFL coaches how to defend certain schemes.
     

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