Tannehill Trade/Fate Rumours Thread

Whats Tannenbum doing in that pic or is it old? I thought that guy was out of the football stuff and put in charge of the restroom facilities.

"Dolphin Dundee wrote:

Whats Tannenbum doing in that pic or is it old? I thought that guy was out of the football stuff and put in charge of the restroom facilities.

I believe it's an old photo. I haven't seen Tannenbaum in any recent coverage.

EDIT - This article suggests Mike is moving over to the Cardinals:

https://phinphanatic.com/2019/02/21/report-mike-tannenbaum-will-soon-former-miami-dolphin-exec/

Best news I heard is that Mike May be leaving us. I want him far away from any input on this team going forward.

Secondly I don’t see anyone desperate enough to trade for tannehill unlesss it’s a deep second day pick. 5-7 rounder.

Also everyone knows we’re going to release him so why give up anything? He’s not in demand AT ALL

No one is going to commit to pay that salary before the draft for Ryan Tannehill.

Let the man go, you won't get any early compensation for him.....give him a chance to go somewhere and compete for a starting job.

We are stuck with that 19million contract, nothing we can do about it. We may have to start to face the fact that he may be our best option at QB to start next year, unfortunately.

"hazed819 wrote:

We are stuck with that 19million contract, nothing we can do about it. We may have to start to face the fact that he may be our best option at QB to start next year, unfortunately.

I think many recognize that he might be the best option at QB in terms of wins, unless Murray drops in our laps. But is RT the best option at QB for the franchise? Massive differences. IMO you have to move on.

"Nappy Roots wrote:

I think many recognize that he might be the best option at QB in terms of wins, unless Murray drops in our laps. But is RT the best option at QB for the franchise? Massive differences. IMO you have to move on.

Yeah but as I understand if we cant deal him we gotta pay him regardless. If thats the case why cut him might as well get what you paid for.

"hazed819 wrote:

Yeah but as I understand if we cant deal him we gotta pay him regardless. If thats the case why cut him might as well get what you paid for.

That is not true at all. From what I have seen, Miami will save $13 mil in cap in 2019 alone but cutting him.

"Fin-O wrote:

No one is going to commit to pay that salary before the draft for Ryan Tannehill.

Let the man go, you won't get any early compensation for him.....give him a chance to go somewhere and compete for a starting job.

If a team like Washington or the Jags would like to get him and have him start learning the offense? Miami could wait till June 1st and then let him go (not like we need the cap space with vet players getting cut) unless a team is willing to give up a pick. That's a LOT of lost time Tanny could have used to learn the playbook and even workout with the WR corp.

Tanny plus Miami's 6th rounder for a third rounder would be great. Even a third rounder in 2020 would be fine, as having extra draft ammo in a good QB year would help if they have to move up.

In any event, no way you keep Tanny around for 2019. He would be good enough to get the team to 6-8 wins and take you out of the QB draft for 2020 -unless you are willing to trade THREE first round picks and change to move up. It looks very doubtful that Murray will be around at #13, so roll with some young QBs and maybe one of them steps up? More likely though is that Miami wins 2-4 games and has a top 3 pick.

Here come the "Tannehill sucks but we can probably get a team to give us a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick for him" posts.

Jags are signing Foles just heard this AM on NFL network. So Washington might but I wouldn't trade a nickle for him. Miami is stuck and wont keep him for the additional 13 million. Admit it was a mistake. Try to trade him but it wont happen and move on. Unless your drafting a new QB and want him to sit a year. Than talk to Ryna about a missive price cut immateriality to keep him another year.

Ryan would have zero reason to do this except to have a starting role to showcase himself for 2020.

Tannehill has a cap number of $26.6 million for 2019. Cutting him with a post-June 1 designation eventually would clear his $18.75 million salary, but the Dolphins would still carry $7.861 million in dead money for 2019, along with $5.561 million in dead money for 2020. Cutting Tannehill without the post-June 1 designation would push the dead money charge to $13.422 million for 2019, but the Dolphins would still save nearly $13.2 million in cap space this year — and Tannehill would be off the books in 2020.

"hazed819 wrote:

Yeah but as I understand if we cant deal him we gotta pay him regardless. If thats the case why cut him might as well get what you paid for.

Basically, if he's on the roster for 2019 then he's going to severely hamper the team in 2020. Because of the way dead money works, if he's not on the team in 2019, then we'll be in better shape financially going into 2020.

The team has already moved on from Tannehill. They're just trying to determine which method of removing the bandaid is the least painful.

Said I would be shocked if we could get anything..

This was because of the goofy deal that Mike Tannenballsonhisdoublechin and the rest gave him, but regardless, it is time. If they can't trade him, take the lumps and hope this coming season will show that the whole organization is finally taking steps in the right direction.

Well it appears that the Jags are the only bidder for Foles. Which means that the market for Tannehill will be even softer. Maybe there will be a market for him during the draft if a team misses out on the QB they want. Otherwise it seems pretty clear other teams won’t give up a draft pick for him.

"djphinfan wrote:

Said I would be shocked if we could get anything..

I’m interested in this negotiation because I felt like the past few years Miami has gotten crapped on while dealing with other teams. I feel like we’ve been embarrassed multiple times at the negotiation table, Ajayi and Landry come to mind.

"plc001 wrote:

I’m interested in this negotiation because I felt like the past few years Miami has gotten crapped on while dealing with other teams. I feel like we’ve been embarrassed multiple times at the negotiation table, Ajayi and Landry come to mind.

Not Landry, as he priced himself out of Miami - not remotely worth what the Browns paid him.

"plc001 wrote:

I’m interested in this negotiation because I felt like the past few years Miami has gotten crapped on while dealing with other teams. I feel like we’ve been embarrassed multiple times at the negotiation table, Ajayi and Landry come to mind.

Nah neither was that bad. Ajayi looked worse right at the start, as the Eagles won the SB, but honestly he didn't play all that big a role and he wasn't anything last year. Landry was significantly overrated and overpriced. There was a lot of hubbub about him, but as the season wore on, that died off quickly.

Our problem has been signing mediocre free agents to overly generous contracts and killing our cap room.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

Here come the "Tannehill sucks but we can probably get a team to give us a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick for him" posts.

This just goes to show you how many people outside of this site think he is a franchise QB.Nobody is knocking on the door to get this guy because he is and always was just an average qb.

IMO, a healthy Tannehill is a better QB in 2019 than at least a dozen other teams have right now. But as has been said, there has to be a market, and teams have to want to make a change. I would bet that he's a sought after free agent a year from now.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

IMO, a healthy Tannehill is a better QB in 2019 than at least a dozen other teams have right now. But as has been said, there has to be a market, and teams have to want to make a change. I would bet that he's a sought after free agent a year from now.

As soon as we release him, he will be sought after. The problem is that his contract sucks away all value. It is obvious that not a single team thinks he is worth his asking price.

I certainly think that he will get offers once he is cut. At this point in his career, it really depends on what he wants to do. He could cut a team a discount and try and be "the next guy" behind Rivers, Brady, Brees, Big Ben, or he could try and start/compete to start. There may be fewer offers than usual just because teams seem to have their guy for now, and there are not a whole lot of teams looking. I feel like more or less the draft has about as much supply as there is demand for a QB.

Which leads us to door number three. If he wants to simply get paid, his best option might be to wait for an injury to occur.

I don't buy that the contract is a problem, if a team were interested in trading for him to make him their starter. Once traded, his salary would be 18.5m. And that number as a cap hit would currently rank 21st in the league. And the only QB on a second contract below that is Andy Dalton. So RT would basically be at the very, very bottom of what teams would be paying an experienced starter.

Here you go on T-Baum, seems to be doing the media rounds: