pretty interesting how it would have played out if we had not drafted Tannehill last season. 2 QBs we've discussed over the last couple of seasons - Palmer and Flynn being re-shopped, which says something. Even though statistically, Palmer was fine last season, he really just looks unenthused when he's playing out there. - traded for Matt Flynn in 2012 (cost more) or 2013 and ended up overpaying another average QB? - trade for Palmer this season? - sign one of the crappy QBs this offseason like Kevin Kolb or Fitzy? shudder at the mediocrity - one bright spot could have been to draft Russell Wilson. given the lack of good solutions this offseason, and the lack of impact QBs in the draft (maybe Barkley might pan out, but Brandt states in the article that he would have been drafted after Tannehill if they were both in the draft this year), I have to give Ireland some credit for selecting Tannehill. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000156327/article/brandt-ryan-tannehill-would-be-this-drafts-no-1-pick
Wait, so Matt Flynn being sold off for a bundle of draft picks is supposed to be taken as evidence that Seattle was stupid for signing him? That's a head scratcher.
A bundle of picks = 2 late round picks in 2014 and 2015? Don't really think that's worth the $8 million they gave him in 2012 to warm the bench.
It's being insinuated everywhere in the thread. Matt Flynn is a perfect example of how when you get a chance to grab a smartly valued asset at that position you should usually steer toward grabbing it. That doesn't mean you have to stop investing in the position any more than Seattle did. Even if things don't quite work out, if he's worth his salt he's a sellable asset.
A) We don't know what the trade compensation is yet. B) They paid him a total of $6 million. #cashflow C) He warmed the bench in favor of a guy who had quite possibly the best rookie quarterback performance the NFL has ever seen.
A) That's what's reported so far so until/unless you have something more valid, it is. B) Pretty sure it's $8 w the signing bonus.
I think it is fair to say that Ryan Tannehill over Matt Flynn was the best choice for Miami last offseason. At the same time I think CK is right, the downside to Seattle signing Flynn really isn't all that bad. Teams should always be looking to add talent at the position, regardless of circumstance.
You act like we didn't try to sign him, when we brought him and gave him an offer commiserate with what his value was to our team. Seattle offered him more because they thought he might start, we obviously didn't or not start for more than a year.
I stand corrected, it was $8 million. What's being reported so far is a pick in 2013 and a conditional pick in 2014. The picks have not been identified.
If you consider him that caliber a player, and you think the rest of the market does as well, absolutely. I don't. And I don't think the market does either.
I see what you're saying, and I don't agree that it was a bad move for the Seahawks. I thought you were coming off as if the Dolphins were just sitting on their hands when this happened, I treated your comment as a standalone and not in juxtaposition to the first handful of comments in this thread.
The difference here is that Matt Moore is a known quantity, Matt Flynn isn't. In this case, that works in Flynn's favor.
If you're getting paid 6 millions dollars a year, you better show it in both instances, especially when you have a rookie making way less than that.
How? Bc Flynn has 1 great game in his career so his ceiling is higher than Moore's? I don't see that. Way too big an assumption.
Yeah I know. It's like choosing between a fine dining room set or maybe seeing if there is a Cadillac behind the mystery door.
The Dolphins made Matt Flynn an actual contract offer, faxed one over to him and everything. They rarely do that. This isn't about the Dolphins sitting on their hands. This is about how people seem to take as if the Dolphins DID sit on their hands and boy how smart do they look for that and how dumb do the Seahawks look for it. No the Dolphins didn't sit on their hands with respect to Flynn. Joe Philbin gave him the endorsement and so Ireland made him an offer, though not one competitive with the Seahawks' offer.
I saw that report. I think it may have been a typo though. Everywhere else I'm seeing (that isn't directly linking Glazer's tweet) is saying a 2013 pick and a conditional pick in 2014.
Not really, imo . From what I've seen it's more of people saying the Dolphins look smart for offering a backup QB backup money instead of overpaying in a bidding war w nobody like SEA did.
We don't know how he did, just that Carroll liked Wilson more. Wilson took the team to the playoffs, so it's not like he lost out to a no-talent hack.
That, and it's also a reaction to people who said we would RUE the day we didn't outbid for Matt Flynn. In the end, both teams ended up just fine, so I'm indifferent to the initial move and this current trade. If the 'Hawks got more than a 4th round pick for him in either year I may change my tune, however.
The same people who were so eager to say Flynn chose SEA over Miami (assuming the $ was close) and that we "couldn't land" another QB.
I agree, but your argument was that he wasn't given a chance. Carroll probably liked Wilson more because of the talent that he had that led them to the second portion of your post.
