Stephen Ross is a schmuck.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

You don't put a guy's life in a holding pattern while you whine and dine his replacement.

Really? Happens to football players all the time. It’s called free agency.

i sort of agree with you BUT this happens alot. Plus do you really know what Ross/Sparano have talked about??
As far as we know Tonys already fired just under the radar

You save this treatment for someone who wronged you. Make em sweat. Tony treated this logo with NOTHING BUT RESPECT and deserves better.

This is the kind of crap I expect from the Jets.

I have no problem with it, but I think Tony Sparano is a buffoon.

Boohoo if he is canned he gets $3,000,000 Togo away!

"Vinny Fins wrote:

You don't put a guy's life in a holding pattern while you whine and dine his replacement.

Stephen Ross has no honor.

Can Tony if that's what you want to do.

Don't keep him on the payroll as a fallback if you can't land your fish.

It's a shady way to treat a stand up guy, and frankly, this organization should hold itself to a higher standard.

He's the boss.

He's a millionare.

He can do whatever the hell he wants.

Who are you to tell him how to run his business?

It's in the Dolphins blood... how'd we land Don Shula?

Who am I? I'm a paying customer, that's who.

And yeah, there's a way to do this. The right way and the wrong way.

If you know you don't want him back, you fire him Monday and let him go get his house in order.

This is a shady practice. But the reality here is that ITS OUR TEAM DOING IT, and ALL OF YOU HAVE A GIANT STIFFIE for whatever big name coach strikes your fancy, so you all act like it's no big deal.

But if this was in the 'AFC EAST RIVALS' or 'OTHER NFL' subforums, we'd be ripping the hell out of whatever team was stringing a guy along.

But it's the Dolphins, so we're supposed to be cool with it.

Sorry, I'm not down with hypocrisy.

agree vinny. this really is embarrassing. it could have been handled much more professionally

Business is business...coaches do the same thing to players all the time.

I don't mind how Ross is handling this at all.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Who am I? I'm a paying customer, that's who.

And yeah, there's a way to do this. The right way and the wrong way.

If you know you don't want him back, you fire him Monday and let him go get his house in order.

This is a shady practice. But the reality here is that ITS OUR TEAM DOING IT, and ALL OF YOU HAVE A GIANT STIFFIE for whatever big name coach strikes your fancy, so you all act like it's no big deal.

But if this was in the 'AFC EAST RIVALS' or 'OTHER NFL' subforums, we'd be ripping the hell out of whatever team was stringing a guy along.

But it's the Dolphins, so we're supposed to be cool with it.

Sorry, I'm not down with hypocrisy.

I trust men in life that have done well.

Ross has done well. He has a track record of doing well.

Guys who claim the name of "Vinny" on a messageboard?

I take that more lightly. Sorry, it's just me.

If you like other boards better, then, get off to them. There's
a reason they are "guys on a messageboard" rather than
"Owner of THe Miami Dolphins".

"xer0 wrote:

Business is business...coaches do the same thing to players all the time.

I don't mind how Ross is handling this at all.

Exactly. It's just business. Nothing personal.

Funny how this all steals everyone's cool.

Sparano isnt the first coach to be in limbo. stop with the dramatics.

"Tony's a moron! Tony's a moron! Tony's a...~how dare that moron be treated like a moron?!!" :wink2:

"Ricky'sBong wrote:

Sparano isnt the first coach to be in limbo. stop with the dramatics.

Thank you. It's not like it's never happened.

"Garryowen wrote:

I trust men in life that have done well.

Ross has done well. He has a track record of doing well.

Guys who claim the name of "Vinny" on a messageboard?

I take that more lightly. Sorry, it's just me.

If you like other boards better, then, get off to them. There's
a reason they are "guys on a messageboard" rather than
"Owner of THe Miami Dolphins".

WTF?

Where did I slander the board? I'm making a point if it was another team doing it, instead of our team, we'd be trashing them. That's the point. It's pretty clear.

And Vinny is derivative of Vincent or 'savior' in it's true meaning. Look it up.

Your bank account has nothing to do with your character, "Garry", or however you prefer to be referred to on a messageboard.

Oj Simpson did well in life before he killed two people. Bank Account... Success... means nothing in terms of moral fiber. Only a fool thinks otherwise.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

You don't put a guy's life in a holding pattern while you whine and dine his replacement.

Stephen Ross has no honor.

Can Tony if that's what you want to do.

Don't keep him on the payroll as a fallback if you can't land your fish.

It's a shady way to treat a stand up guy, and frankly, this organization should hold itself to a higher standard.

Yawn.....

Ross is going about this the smart way for the Phins organization.
The football season isn't even over yet.
If Sparano ends up getting let go he'll have plenty of time to pick up a job elsewhere.

Two years in a row Miami was 7-6 and in playoff contention. Two years in a row Miami lost the last 3 games to go 7-9 and miss playoffs. Both years 2 of those games were at home.

I don't think Sparano has earned the right to be treated any different than any player who collapsed at the end of the season two years in a row.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Who am I? I'm a paying customer, that's who.

And yeah, there's a way to do this. The right way and the wrong way.

If you know you don't want him back, you fire him Monday and let him go get his house in order.

This is a shady practice. But the reality here is that ITS OUR TEAM DOING IT, and ALL OF YOU HAVE A GIANT STIFFIE for whatever big name coach strikes your fancy, so you all act like it's no big deal.

But if this was in the 'AFC EAST RIVALS' or 'OTHER NFL' subforums, we'd be ripping the hell out of whatever team was stringing a guy along.

But it's the Dolphins, so we're supposed to be cool with it.

Sorry, I'm not down with hypocrisy.

so am I correct in assuming you were OUTRAGED the way Jerry did Wade Phillips?

"Vinny Fins wrote:

WTF?

Where did I slander the board? I'm making a point if it was another team doing it, instead of our team, we'd be trashing them. That's the point. It's pretty clear.

And Vinny is derivative of Vincent or 'savior' in it's true meaning. Look it up.

Your bank account has nothing to do with your character, "Garry", or however you prefer to be referred to on a messageboard.

Oj Simpson did well in life before he killed two people. Bank Account... Success... means nothing in terms of moral fiber. Only a fool thinks otherwise.

And Vinny is derivative of Vincent or 'savior' in it's true meaning. Look it up.

So you are the savior of .... Who? The Miami Dolphins?

Your bank account has nothing to do with your character, "Garry", or however you prefer to be referred to on a messageboard.

Refer to me as you please. Your bank account does not have anything to do with character, but it does have a track record, proven with how you do conducting business while the children post on messageboards.

Oj Simpson did well in life before he killed two people. Bank Account... Success... means nothing in terms of moral fiber. Only a fool thinks otherwise

OJ made his money as a service provider. Ross has made his money manageing service providers. Do you understand better now?

BTW.....OJ's never been convicted. ;)

"Coral Reefer wrote:

Yawn.....

Ross is going about this the smart way for the Phins organization.
The football season isn't even over yet.
If Sparano ends up getting let go he'll have plenty of time to pick up a job elsewhere.

Thank you.

Did you just call yourself a child? At least you are self deprecating.

It's not so much if doing this is within Stephen's rights as a owner.

It most assuredly is, however, it is not the proper way to business in my opinion.

In the tiny agency I work for, The City of New York, if one is being relieved or resigning a position, that process takes it's course. The person isn't sitting in another room doing their job while we size up his/her replacement. I've been the interviewer and the interviewee. I've been the subordinate and the supervisor.

The way Ross is doing this in my opinion, that's not good faith, does nothing for morale, and makes us look second rate.

This should be the MODEL in the NFL, not another organization with character issues.

It is on the employer to treat their employees with dignity, even in the process of removing them.

Whether or not you ascribe to it, I believe in karma, and most assuredly, we are not earning ourselves any brownie points in that score at the moment.

"Vinny Fins wrote:

Did you just call yourself a child? At least you are self deprecating.

It's not so much if doing this is within Stephen's rights as a owner.

It most assuredly is, however, it is not the proper way to business in my opinion.

In the tiny agency I work for, The City of New York, if one is being relieved or resigning a position, that process takes it's course. The person isn't sitting in another room doing their job while we size up his/her replacement. I've been the interviewer and the interviewee. I've been the subordinate and the supervisor.

The way Ross is doing this in my opinion, that's not good faith, does nothing for morale, and makes us look second rate.

This should be the MODEL in the NFL, not another organization with character issues.

It is on the employer to treat their employees with dignity, even in the process of removing them.

Whether or not you ascribe to it, I believe in karma, and most assuredly, we are not earning ourselves any brownie points in that score at the moment.

Civil service.

That explains it.

Yes, you guys do have lots of rules.

"Garryowen wrote:

Civil service.

That explains it.

Yes, you guys do have lots of rules.

So, my field of work somehow limits the value of my opinion in comparison to his or to yours?

I'm not sure I see why you would come to that conclusion.