Star Wars Episode VII
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"texanphinatic wrote:
Which is funny, because many of the same people complaining now are the same ones complaining that TFA was a knockoff of New Hope. I thought they were being smart doing it this way. Have the first movie grounded firmly in SW universe, then go back to some of the wackier roots that made it so unique. SW is more than just laser swords and ships, which people seem to be missing.
I agree 100%. The second movie is where you make the turn into the new saga. This seems well crafted to me and I'm grateful for it. It also sets up a cool tension for episode 9. Nobody has any clue how this will all end. I'd much rather have it this way than ho humming my way to the finish
Just saw it again and enjoyed it even more. have to move it up a notch in my SW universe. might be tied with Empire for best ever.
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Anyone else pick up TLJ when it went on sale and see it a few more times? I finally did, have watched it twice again, and goddam it is a wonderful movie. So much of the criticism that we were bombarded with just seemed so ... nitpicky and disregardful of other Star Wars movies. There are a few legitimate questions, but ultimately I think they were either answered fine, though tricky to see, or just didn't matter at all. It's not perfect, some things don't flow and work as nicely as the rest, some things are a little off, the dialogue isn't always there. But the way the tone and mood shifts around (the comedic elements are brilliant additions imo), the way the characters and attitudes shift, the storytelling, the shifting between different scenes and actions, the shots ... so damn good. Everything just kind of washes off and I was left quite satisfied about how everything was done and handled.
One thing I always like to kind of watch for are "movie poster moments" - shots that could be frozen, stuck on a poster and hung on a wall that look simply amazing. I first started really paying attention to this in the LOTR movies where there were just so many gorgeous scenes. Gandalf and the Balrog falling into the giant cavern may be the apex of that for me, incredible. TLJ has as many as I can remember in awhile - Johnson has a good eye for it and framing.
Secondary side note: Anyone else kind of hyped for Solo after the trailers?
Based on everything that was coming out, I was actually going to maybe skip it, but the trailers are kinda good. Alden is kind of weird as Han ... and I really thought that would kill it for me, but I think if it's a fun enough and interesting enough movie on it's own, I can dig it. Harrison did his thing, this one is a bit different, I kinda feel like I can get past it without too much problem.
I've actually gotten to where I never buy full price movies anymore. I'll ask for it as a gift, and will eventually get it for my collection and rewatch it then. I did enjoy it the first time through, and though I did have my hesitiations with how a few things were handled, its a well made movie and I didn't understand the uproar. We'll see how things play out in the next one before I get too uppity.
I'm likely going to end up missing Solo in the theatre. Its just up against too many other movies in the cinema at the same time. If it came out in August or September, I'd certainly be going to see it. I hope that it doesn't do poorly at the box office because of that. I'll eventually catch it on bluray too.
I only buy about 3-4 movies per year, but did but the last jedi. Waiting to watch it with friends, since I saw it in theatres 3 times.
I'm not that excited about the solo movie. It might be good, but I wouldn,t be surprised if it's weaker compared to the last few movies
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I'd really like to see a movie that bridges some of the events between episodes 6 and 7. I'll still see the solo movie though
"#1 fan wrote:
I'd really like to see a movie that bridges some of the events between episodes 6 and 7. I'll still see the solo movie though
I would too. A Luke movie starring Sebastian Stan would do well at this. I'd also like an Obi Won movie bridging the gaps between 3 & 4.
"Unlucky 13 wrote:
I would too. A Luke movie starring Sebastian Stan would do well at this. I'd also like an Obi Won movie bridging the gaps between 3 & 4.
Eh, I kind of like how the alternate story movies are staying away from the Skywalkers, and even the Jedi, to a lesser extent. The SW universe has so much vast and untapped material.
I do feel that Solo was certainly sounding like a week entry, even until fairly recently. The trailers are moving my opinion though, they look pretty well put together and with some good action. The train scene, the space monster, the famous Han/Lando sabacc game ... I'm still on the fence and may not end up seeing it in the theater (I only see 2-3 per year probably, and Avengers will be the top of the list for a bit until I manage it), but I am no longer actively against it.
When my girls were younger, I tried to get them to watch the old Star Wars with me and they just weren't into it. I saw the original Star Wars at maybe 8 years old and was mesmerized (it was the 2nd time they played in theaters), but my kids just didn't get into it. So then I tried the prequils with them when they were around 11 since I thought maybe the speeder bikes and all that stuff would entice them....they didn't bite there either.
Now we have the third trilogy and I asked em both....come see this with me! They wouldn't go so I took my dad instead, which was amazing since I saw the originals with him when I was a kid. He loved em, I loved em! And I agree with some of you, they weren't the best movies ever, but it brought us back into that universe.
When the latest one came out, I asked my 16 year old to go and again she said no.....but all her friends were really into it by then. So she goes the next night and really likes it, and then binge watches the other 9 episodes with a neighbor over the next few days. She's telling my older one about how cool it was and they went to another friends house and binge watched them all over again, ending with seeing the new episode II in theaters. LOL, I was so freaking angry over that!!!! They're both sorta Star Wars fans now though- not Sci Fi nerds like us but they really like it.
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"KeyFin wrote:
When my girls were younger, I tried to get them to watch the old Star Wars with me and they just weren't into it. I saw the original Star Wars at maybe 8 years old and was mesmerized (it was the 2nd time they played in theaters), but my kids just didn't get into it. So then I tried the prequils with them when they were around 11 since I thought maybe the speeder bikes and all that stuff would entice them....they didn't bite there either.
Now we have the third trilogy and I asked em both....come see this with me! They wouldn't go so I took my dad instead, which was amazing since I saw the originals with him when I was a kid. He loved em, I loved em! And I agree with some of you, they weren't the best movies ever, but it brought us back into that universe.
When the latest one came out, I asked my 16 year old to go and again she said no.....but all her friends were really into it by then. So she goes the next night and really likes it, and then binge watches the other 9 episodes with a neighbor over the next few days. She's telling my older one about how cool it was and they went to another friends house and binge watched them all over again, ending with seeing the new episode II in theaters. LOL, I was so freaking angry over that!!!! They're both sorta Star Wars fans now though- not Sci Fi nerds like us but they really like it.
that seems about right. I was able to get my oldest daughter into StarWars, but tried for years when she was younger to get her into Harry Potter. She wouldn't budge until her friends starting liking it and convinced her to watch it.
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"Ohio Fanatic wrote:
that seems about right. I was able to get my oldest daughter into StarWars, but tried for years when she was younger to get her into Harry Potter. She wouldn't budge until her friends starting liking it and convinced her to watch it.
A lot of them are like that. My 6 year old has waffled back and forth on a few things based on what other kids say they like. I was absolutely into Star Wars at her age, having watched A New Hope and Empire many times on TV, but those were different days with a lot fewer options in the world.
https://geektyrant.com/news/kathleen-kennedy-says-lando-calrissian-will-get-his-own-star-wars-film
Along with the rumors that the Obi Wan movie will start production soon, now there is official confirmation that a Lando movie will get made as well. I know that not everyone is onboard with this offshoot direction for the Star Wars universe, but I'm digging it.
"Unlucky 13 wrote:
https://geektyrant.com/news/kathleen-kennedy-says-lando-calrissian-will-get-his-own-star-wars-film
Along with the rumors that the Obi Wan movie will start production soon, now there is official confirmation that a Lando movie will get made as well. I know that not everyone is onboard with this offshoot direction for the Star Wars universe, but I'm digging it.
I'm excited by the spin off movies. not quite to the same extent, but close. Loved Rogue One. Love the idea of the Obi Wan movie. I've warmed up to the Solo movie, just not sure I will make it to the theatre to see it, crazy time of year right now
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https://geekculture.co/next-up-for-star-wars-a-boba-fett-movie/
And now there's official confirmation that a Boba Fet movie is in the works too. Seems likely that it will take place around or just before A New Hope.
"Unlucky 13 wrote:
https://geekculture.co/next-up-for-star-wars-a-boba-fett-movie/
And now there's official confirmation that a Boba Fet movie is in the works too. Seems likely that it will take place around or just before A New Hope.
With Disney in the driver's seat, it means that they will produce a lot more over the next few years (similar to Marvel stuff). They might not all be top quality but I'll definitely go see them anyway.
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"KeyFin wrote:
With Disney in the driver's seat, it means that they will produce a lot more over the next few years (similar to Marvel stuff). They might not all be top quality but I'll definitely go see them anyway.
Same . A pretty good movie every year is better than waiting five years and hoping to get a great one, putting all the eggs in one basket and raising the chance of huge disappointment. If star wars becomes like the MCU, I'll be tickled.
"Unlucky 13 wrote:
Same . A pretty good movie every year is better than waiting five years and hoping to get a great one, putting all the eggs in one basket and raising the chance of huge disappointment. If star wars becomes like the MCU, I'll be tickled.
For me it's just like being back in that universe again. I swear sometimes I forget that I'm not still 8 years old in the theater because it brings me right back- the feelings and emotions are the same. There's not another franchise out there that feels as magical to me....maybe Star Trek and Harry Potter come close, plus the Spiderman movies usually feel "special".
There's just something amazing about reliving those universes that we first discovered as kids- I hope they make 20 more movies. And you're right, they certainly don't have to be awesome in plot lines...a big part of the awesome is the universe itself.
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"KeyFin wrote:
For me it's just like being back in that universe again. I swear sometimes I forget that I'm not still 8 years old in the theater because it brings me right back- the feelings and emotions are the same. There's not another franchise out there that feels as magical to me....maybe Star Trek and Harry Potter come close, plus the Spiderman movies usually feel "special".
There's just something amazing about reliving those universes that we first discovered as kids- I hope they make 20 more movies. And you're right, they certainly don't have to be awesome in plot lines...a big part of the awesome is the universe itself.
I've honestly not been down on any of the four new movies at all. I've seen Rogue One three or four times now, and love it. I don't really grasp the notion that it or Solo are "unnecessary". Both are fun movies, and Rogue One especially is just really good and tells a cool story that we didn't have before. That's why I see movies in the first place.
"Unlucky 13 wrote:
I've honestly not been down on any of the four new movies at all. I've seen Rogue One three or four times now, and love it. I don't really grasp the notion that it or Solo are "unnecessary". Both are fun movies, and Rogue One especially is just really good and tells a cool story that we didn't have before. That's why I see movies in the first place.
Without having seen Solo yet ...
I love Star Wars, but "fatigue" can be real, especially when they drop movies in a crowded summer. I just don't get to the theater much, and with Infinity War and Incredibles 2 (Disney cannibalizing itself haha), I couldn't squeeze Solo between them. One a year seemed fine, and the Christmas time period is generally slower and so it's easier to get out.
As for the movies themselves, I am really really really wary of them just churning out a bunch of formulaic biopic junk. Solo, Kenobi, Boba (God he is the most overrated ...). I would much prefer Rogue One style open/close stories that tell a new story. I was hyped for Rogue, but even though Solo interests me and I will see it asap once it is available in-home, I didn't really have a main trilogy or Rogue draw to see it.
"texanphinatic wrote:
Without having seen Solo yet ...
I love Star Wars, but "fatigue" can be real, especially when they drop movies in a crowded summer. I just don't get to the theater much, and with Infinity War and Incredibles 2 (Disney cannibalizing itself haha), I couldn't squeeze Solo between them. One a year seemed fine, and the Christmas time period is generally slower and so it's easier to get out.
As for the movies themselves, I am really really really wary of them just churning out a bunch of formulaic biopic junk. Solo, Kenobi, Boba (God he is the most overrated ...). I would much prefer Rogue One style open/close stories that tell a new story. I was hyped for Rogue, but even though Solo interests me and I will see it asap once it is available in-home, I didn't really have a main trilogy or Rogue draw to see it.
I guess I'm not as prone to fatigue because overwhelmingly, MCU, Star Wars and LOTR movies are the only one's I've gone to the movies to see in many years. I also don't watch a whole lot of fictional TV these days (drama/comedy), so the movies that I see are my primary entertainment. I look forward to every one, and my wife and I pretty much only get to three or four a year ourselves.
"Unlucky 13 wrote:
I guess I'm not as prone to fatigue because overwhelmingly, MCU, Star Wars and LOTR movies are the only one's I've gone to the movies to see in many years. I also don't watch a whole lot of fictional TV these days (drama/comedy), so the movies that I see are my primary entertainment. I look forward to every one, and my wife and I pretty much only get to three or four a year ourselves.
Yeah it's less about number of movies and more about timing really. For me, Solo was just timed poorly. It doesn't help that my wife isn't really a fan haha. I'd have seen Solo over Incredibles, but I didn't win that one. :)
"texanphinatic wrote:
Yeah it's less about number of movies and more about timing really. For me, Solo was just timed poorly. It doesn't help that my wife isn't really a fan haha. I'd have seen Solo over Incredibles, but I didn't win that one. :)
I'm extremely fortunate that my wife was already almost as big a geek about these things as I am when we met. 14 years together has deepened the bond, but she already loved most of it. We have about a 80% overlap in taste, so things go well most of the time.
We've been getting our two girls (6 and 4) into it all as well. We haven't taken them to a non-animated/Disney movie at the cinema yet, but I'm thinking probably next year. We're all pumped to go watch Incredibles 2 though. My wife introduced me to the original, and its always been a family favorite.
Solo was just as good if not better than Rogue One.
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