South Florida awarded 2020 Super Bowl

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JWjw3102Forum VeteranOP
May 24, 2016, 05:06 PM

While I was always against the taxpayers having to pay for the renovations to the stadium, just so South Florida could entice the NFL to return to the area for another Super Bowl game. After paying for all the renovations to the stadium himself. I am happy the NFL owners awarded the 2020 SB game to Ross.

He certainly deserves the recognition for putting up the money to make the improvements the NFL demanded if South Florida was to receive another SB.

Now all I ask of Ross is that he puts the staff together which can eventually have the Dolphins playing in a SB. Hopefully Gase and his coaching staff, along with the front office are finally that right combination for Ross, but only time will tell.

PandarillaPandarillaForum Veteran
May 24, 2016, 06:55 PM

The stadium is going to look amazing. Ross does deserve credit for footing the bill himself.

But seriously, how can you not have a Super Bowl in Miami at least once every seven years.

PandarillaPandarillaForum Veteran
May 24, 2016, 07:10 PM

http://m.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/South-Florida-Super-Bowl-History/73cc8f78-a9c6-4da2-8bab-3af983e650dc

Here's a video they just posted about the history of the SuperBowl in Miami. Too short for my taste. The best part was the ending where they showed different CG renderings of the completed stadium. That place will be unique and add gravitas to the stadium genre.

PandarillaPandarillaForum Veteran
May 24, 2016, 07:13 PM

It's also kinda trippy when you think that SB LIV has a club LIV in the stadium...

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13Supporter
May 24, 2016, 07:15 PM

I think its great that the game is going to be in Miami again. However, I think that its going to be a while after that before its back. With new stadiums in warm weather places like LA and Atlanta, along with fairly new ones in Tampa, Dallas, Houtson and Arizona, all of those are going to be in the regular rotation, along with New Orleans. If San Diego gets a new place, then they're a permenant fixture as well. And then you have the domed stadiums in northern climates who want the game, and now the possibility of cold weather open air games too. I think its unlikely we get more than one a decade.

54Fins54FinsForum Veteran
May 24, 2016, 07:20 PM

Yeah, that's cool...yet it doesn't effect me and it has nothing to do with the Dolphins really. I'm sure Ross wet himself though.

Stringer BellStringer BellSupporter
May 24, 2016, 07:22 PM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I think its great that the game is going to be in Miami again. However, I think that its going to be a while after that before its back. With new stadiums in warm weather places like LA and Atlanta, along with fairly new ones in Tampa, Dallas, Houtson and Arizona, all of those are going to be in the regular rotation, along with New Orleans. If San Diego gets a new place, then they're a permenant fixture as well. And then you have the domed stadiums in northern climates who want the game, and now the possibility of cold weather open air games too. I think its unlikely we get more than one a decade.

The NFL will give Miami SBs, because the city is essentially paying ala carte.

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NENewmpieceNew Member
May 24, 2016, 11:37 PM

Nice Tanny wins his first superbowl at home. I like it

LLLloyd HeilbrunnSupporter
May 25, 2016, 12:39 AM

I just think the South Florida media seems to care much more than Fins' fans do...

dolphin25dolphin25Forum Veteran
May 25, 2016, 08:36 AM

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

I just think the South Florida media seems to care much more than Fins' fans do...

That makes sense though as many fans here don't live in South Florida.

Lord help us.

Deus ex dolphinDeus ex dolphinForum Veteran
May 25, 2016, 11:57 AM

"Newmpiece wrote:

Nice Tanny wins his SECOND Superbowl at home. I like it

Fixed that for you.

I was going to put 'THIRD' but it felt a bit greedy. :)

A terrible play call, terribly executed.

FinsterFinsterNew Member
May 25, 2016, 12:27 PM

Well, you can't say Ross didn't earn this SB bid, he certainly jumped through enough NFL corporate hoops to get it.

Please though, Mr Ross, no more 7 home games, I don't want to see us playing home games in London, or Beijing, or Sydney, or Cairo, or Managua.

No problem playing away games abroad, not home games though, especially vs a division rival.

Love to see a game in Scotland, Edinburgh I guess, they have football weather all year long up there :yes:

CBcbradForum Veteran
May 25, 2016, 01:14 PM

"Finster wrote:

Please though, Mr Ross, no more 7 home games, I don't want to see us playing home games in London, or Beijing, or Sydney, or Cairo, or Managua.

No problem playing away games abroad, not home games though, especially vs a division rival.

Playing in Sydney might be like a home game for us if it's a game in December or January. Remember, that's in the Southern hemisphere and it can get really hot down there at precisely that time!

.. and I bet the Aussies like Dolphins :yes:

Coral ReeferCoral ReeferNew Member
May 26, 2016, 02:50 AM

The NFL OWED Miami this Super Bowl and others.
After the ridiculous demands they put on the Dolphins to renovate the stadium and add roofing for fan cover while other facilities with similar issues were still being considered (See Tampa) the NFL again owed it to the organization for conforming.

The whole thing was ridiculous but it's done and we'll have a better stadium because of it.

RIP Jetssuck

Csonka MarinoCsonka MarinoForum Veteran
May 26, 2016, 10:20 AM

I expected this after the stadium upgrades. Happy to see it happen.

FinsterFinsterNew Member
May 26, 2016, 11:13 AM

"CaribPhin wrote:

At least have a preseason game in The Bahamas. Our largest stadium only seats 15,000 but for a preseason game that should be sufficient.

The NFL is all about money, so that's the problem there, 15,000 doesn't even cover the plane ride unfortunately.

CBcbradForum Veteran
May 26, 2016, 12:02 PM

"CaribPhin wrote:

I can't find preseason attendance figures but do you think we bring in greater than 15,000?

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2007/09/Issue-241/The-Back-Of-The-Book/NFL-Preseason-Attendance-Up-29-From-06.aspx

That was in 2007 compared to 2006. Given there are 4 preseason games (generally), you're looking at an average of 20k+ per game per team to almost 40k.

CBcbradForum Veteran
May 29, 2016, 04:50 PM

"CaribPhin wrote:

I don't think you can confidently estimate using figures from a decade ago. Might be more now, but we can't really say.

Yeah, it's hard to find those numbers. That link for 2006 and 2007 was the only one I could find that showed preseason attendance league-wide. Even if you check game-by-game it's hard to find.

Anyway, a few that were posted for the Dolphins in recent years:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/game?gameId=400791108
http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/article-1/POSTGAME-NOTES-Dolphins-Finish-Preseason-With-3-1-Record/6393b034-d78d-4531-b5f9-3dde1a588d18

49,675 in the 2015 Bucs game, and 43,340 against the Rams in 2014. Either way, those are just paid totals, not number of fans that actually attended. But if it's in the 40k+ range in recent years, then like Finster said maybe the Bahamas might not work out financially speaking.

FinsterFinsterNew Member
May 29, 2016, 05:57 PM

"cbrad wrote:

Yeah, it's hard to find those numbers. That link for 2006 and 2007 was the only one I could find that showed preseason attendance league-wide. Even if you check game-by-game it's hard to find.

Anyway, a few that were posted for the Dolphins in recent years:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/game?gameId=400791108
http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/article-1/POSTGAME-NOTES-Dolphins-Finish-Preseason-With-3-1-Record/6393b034-d78d-4531-b5f9-3dde1a588d18

49,675 in the 2015 Bucs game, and 43,340 against the Rams in 2014. Either way, those are just paid totals, not number of fans that actually attended. But if it's in the 40k+ range in recent years, then like Finster said maybe the Bahamas might not work out financially speaking.

i don't know what it is about preseason attendance, it seems as though it's guarded for some strange reason, but just watching the games, the stadium is always half full, sometimes more, so thats upwards of 30k regularly.

Also, what would be the end game for the NFL? There is no market there as of yet with such a small stadium and population, and it would probably cost money for the NFL to have a game there.

They had a preseason game in Mexico years ago, but that was in a 100k stadium, and preseason games are part of the season ticket package, as well as other packages, so it is really hard to do something like that.

CBcbradForum Veteran
May 29, 2016, 07:21 PM

"Finster wrote:

i don't know what it is about preseason attendance, it seems as though it's guarded for some strange reason, but just watching the games, the stadium is always half full, sometimes more, so thats upwards of 30k regularly.

Also, what would be the end game for the NFL? There is no market there as of yet with such a small stadium and population, and it would probably cost money for the NFL to have a game there.

They had a preseason game in Mexico years ago, but that was in a 100k stadium, and preseason games are part of the season ticket package, as well as other packages, so it is really hard to do something like that.

My guess as to why it's so hard to get the figures is the owners don't want to show everyone how much they're making. Let's keep in mind preseason exists because it enriches the owners. They don't have to pay the players "salaries" to have the games (just training camp rates, etc..), and as you point out preseason tickets are part of a "package".

Oh, and that Mexico game? Highest ever attendance for an NFL game, preseason or regular season or playoffs, was a preseason game in Mexico in 1994 when 112k+ watched it. Highest regular season game ever was 105k+ for the first game in the Cowboys stadium.

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