Some reasons why I think RG3 is the right choice to be a Miami Dolphin..

Wasn't Kalil going back just a rumor?

 

Ck, what a coup that would be. Heck, Ross could (and I'm starting to think he might) keep this regime intact and still be the most popular guy in So Fla if they pull off a trade for Manning. That fits his MO of wanting star power and would certainly put butts in the seats of the stadium formerly known as JRS... Geez...I got goose-pimples all over just thinking about that...

 

I normally trust Rob Rang but he was the guy that came out with the report that Kalil is going back to school and since then Matt Kalil has disputed that he's even close to making that decision yet. He said after that report came out he awoke to 'mayhem' of everyone asking him about his decision to go back to USC, and meanwhile he's only just got started figuring out what process he's going to go through in order to make that decision, had yet to really even get his arms around that.

I think Rang might have had a false report. We'll see.

 

This decision could be settled in mid-March depending on what the Colts do, and given the state of that franchise now, I think they may just clean house and start over with Luck. I think it would be really difficult for them to just cut Manning loose, the fan base won't like it much, but that's why the contract was structure the way it was. I can't see them sticking with Peyton under these conditions. However, if they do stick with him, then they will certainly be looking for a "Ricky Williams" type compensation to give up that #1 overall.

The thing about this offseason is whether or not Ross tells Irish and Tony to go ahead and clear their desks out. A new regime could mean a completely different way of looking at this team, as it is and what they would want it to look like. That fortunately, we should know sooner (by mid-January) rather than later....

 

Exactly. It would put butts in the seats. It would give the Dolphins a legit chance to win it all in 2012. It would give the Dolphins the star power to compete with Lebron and Dwyane Wade.

The biggest question mark would be the neck, obviously...but I think the Dolphins could even play that one off, if they're smart about it. Just say that 5 years ago, Nick Saban's Dolphins decided to pass up on one of the five or six elite passers in the NFL because they evaluated the player's body parts instead of evaluating the player. This year, they're going to correct that mistake. Nothing is ever certain in this sport, be it character, injuries or even talent. We can't be 100% certain that Peyton Manning's neck will not present problems at some point this season, but what we can be 100% certain of is that if there is a way for Peyton Manning to overcome it, he will find that way, and he will have our full support in doing so.

 

You're right they could clean house and start over. But it won't be mid-March when they cut Peyton loose. It will have to be in February, because I believe that's when his $28 million option bonus is due.

 

You haven't, others have.

 

I still believe that even if Manning gets cut, he ends up with the Jets over Miami. Of course, if we can demolish the Jets in week 17, maybe we can swing Manning's opinion that the jets may be the better team.

 

It's possible that Manning goes to the Jets. But here's the thing, this is looking pretty familiar, as far as Mark Sanchez' career pattern. It looks like Eli Manning's. We're into the 3rd year starting now and Sanchez still isn't blowing anyone away. But his TD/INT ratio is better than it's ever been, and in the last two games in particular he's thrown 5 TDs to 1 INT.

What happened with Eli Manning was, at the tail end of his 4th year in the league, he started to come on a little bit. In his final 4 games of the season he threw, 6 TDs to 3 INTs, and then in the playoffs he had a great run in the Wild Card and Divisional rounds. He was kind of mediocre in the NFC Championship Game but then he had a good game in the Super Bowl.

That's the annoying thing about Mark Sanchez. He performs well in the playoffs. He's had 100+ passer ratings in 3 of his 6 playoff appearances, and a 4th appearance with a 93 passer rating. He's only had a poor rating in 2 of the 6 playoff games. I believe from 2009 through today he's got the most 4th quarter game winning drives of any QB in the NFL.

So I could see this patterning a lot after Eli Manning, except maybe a year sooner. The Jets could go on a run, Sanchez could continue racking up decent stats and adding to his recent TD/INT ratio, become a different player in the playoffs, and before you know it, replacing him with Peyton Manning in 2012 becomes the furthest thing from the Jets' minds.

 

You know what would be interesting, though?

Let's say San Francisco gets exposed in the playoffs as a team trying to win with Alex Smith at the helm.

Would Jim Harbaugh swallow his pride and accept Peyton Manning as his quarterback?

Captain Comeback was the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts for four years until the Colts drafted Peyton #1 overall. The Colts had only been to the playoffs 3 times since they moved from Baltimore, and Captain Comeback led two of those campaigns under Ted Marchibroda and Lindy Infante. Hell, one of those years the team was only 9-7 but Harbaugh led them to the AFC Championship Game against the Steelers, where they lost 16-20. The Steelers beat Harbaugh again the next year, only this time in the Wild Card round. Then the Colts had a 3-13 season under Infante leading to Jim Mora's hire and Peyton Manning's drafting.

The Colts traded Harbaugh to the Ravens to make room for Peyton, and then as the #1 overall pick gave Manning a $48 million contract. I imagine Jim had to be pretty bitter about that. He certainly wasn't ready to hang it up, he played three more years with the Ravens and Chargers.

That'll be something interesting to watch.

 

Quite frankly, I've never thought the Jets organization is as down on Sanchez as some in the media would like to think. I think Rex wasn't being disingenuous when he stood behind his QB recently, and I believe they feel that whatever shortcomings the team has this season is far less on Mark than it has been in previous years. He's still not an elite QB, and I think some of his stats look better due to the high percentage passing game they've employed more of this season, but he has improved and can still be dangerous.

 

I think they're standing behind him but they're also nervous because he's not really coming up the way they thought he would and they always build these expectations up that if they take a nose dive, miss the playoffs because of the nose dive, and Sanchez plays poorly during that stretch...I dunno...I could see them grabbing Peyton.

 

Would it really matter if his neck doesn't ever recover?
Cant we just sign him to a heavy incentive/performance based contract with some sort of escape clause should he see less than x amount of starts?
Miami could still take Tannehill to develop behind him while Moore serves as the backup and fallback guy should Manning's neck be a problem.

As far as the team he goes to, I think he'd be less concerned about its current state and more concerned about "With me on it, do I make this team a playoff/SB team?". "Does the team seem to have the pieces in place to sustain itself for the next 3-4 years since this will likely be the team I end my career with?" "And, do the guys on this team seem conducive to me enjoying my final years and finishing my career on a positive note?" If I were Manning, this current, likable Miami team would be very appealing to join.

 

NY seems like a team that could be on the decline or at least plateau'd, where as Miami seems more on the up and up, so I'd presently take Miami over NY. Who are his receivers the next few years with Burress being nearly done? Who are the backs that suit his needs in the passing game after LT retires? Who would his OC be since that team is more built around the run?

 

Well, I'd like to think that too, but we're both slightly biased. And Payton has never really needed great running backs. they could probably draft one in mid-rounds and upgrade what they already have.

And CK's idea of PM to 49ers is an interesting one. that makes even more sense than Jets.

 

This is just my opinion here, but if the Colts cut Manning loose, then they have to know more about the neck than what is being let out. They aren't going to just cut a healthy Peyton Manning so they can rebuild around Andrew Luck. If he's available, he has one of the biggest buyer beware tags I've ever seen stuck on him.

 

You’re probably right.

RGIII would be a perfect fit for Daboll’s system but it is unlikely he survives.

 

Its just my opinion, but I could see the Colts parting with Manning simply to have a chance to get the highest hyped quarterback since Manning. Even if Manning fully recovers from his neck problem he is getting older and more apt to have injuries. Also the Colts may not have the opportunity again to draft a quarterback like Luck and a replacement for Manning is critical and inevitable as proven by this years Colts record.
We can't rely on Miami being able to get Manning if he is cut loose because you can bet several teams will be itching to get a shot at him, Washington being the first that comes to mind. If we pass on a first round quarterback this year I think it would be a major mistake.

 

LMFAO

After Luck, RG3 is my personal fav and I hope we do draft him. I like him even over Barkley.

 

More accurate on the short stuff? This is arguably the most accurate deep ball QB I've ever graded. Yes he has issues, but deep accuracy isn't one of them.

 

Not saying that about him Boom, he does lead the nation in deep ball accuracy, what I am saying is there is a bit of "Deep TD or Check Down" to his game, he throws underneath stuff often and it pumps his accuracy %.

Probably not using the proper term, however if you watch him throw, he is not a touch/timing guy on the short and intermediate stuff, his ball reminds me a bit of Henne on those routes, straight as a string, have not seen him get the ball up and down very often.

 

Keep in mind Deej, that "mid first rd pick" stuff is going to change to "Top 10" when he runs a 4.3/4.4 at the combine, he was also a champion sprinter.

 

That's pretty much what I had in mind signing Peyton to a deal that protects the Dolphins if his neck is no good. You keep Moore on as backup and train a younger guy as third.

 

Just my .02 Deej, but RG3 is further along as a passer at this stage then Cam Newton.

RG3 also is "track fast", have not really seen that speed translate to big plays running the ball.

 

I don't think RG3 is as talented a thrower/passer as Cam Newton was. The quality of Newton's throws is much higher.

 

I see more Vick than Newton in RG3. Passing and size wise, not running.

 

Disagree CK, Newton was/is more explosive, but RG3 is the better passer of the two imo

As I've said, RG3 reminds me of Steve McNair, but his listed weight of 235 imo, is to heavy, dude looks mid 220's, but the same sort of game.

Good all around Qb, but not excellent at any one particular thing.

 

That seems to make the most sense to me.

 

He's skinny as Cunningham, but I thought I saw him listed at 235?

 

I think Luck will be a solid franchise QB for years to come, but right now I love the upside of Griffin even more than I like Luck. If the Dolphins draft Griffin, this would not only drastically improve the QB play on the Dolphins. It would also increase season tickets sales dramatically. Hopefully Ross is on the same page and he will give his new HC and GM orders to do everything they can to ensure that the Dolphins are able to select Griffin. If the Dolphins have to give up their first round picks in 2012 and 2013, plus a second round pick in 2012 to secure Griffin in the draft, that is exactly what they should do.

 

Eh, then he is smaller then McNair.

BTW Dej, CFL is offering up a super prospect, a Cb who is very much in the way of Vontae Davis...hope like heck we sign him.

 

PM incoming

 

I agree. Though I don't think he has quite Vick's arm strength, quick delivery, or like you already said, not his feet either.