Some inside info on the stadium renovation

Good, the only thing I don't like about this is not only the canopy (which looks dreadful imo) but they keep pouring money into this stadium when a new facility would probably be what is needed.

At BC place in Vancouver, they have a sort of umbrella device that hangs over the middle of the field, they can open it in bad weather or retract it in good weather, they put the massive screens on below the device and over the center of the field (as in the Cowboys crypt) which to me would make for more comfortable watching of replays.

Screens at the end of the field takes the fans eyes off of the field.

Alright MIAAAAAAAMI

I have the weirdest boner right now

Thanks for the info.

"Section126 wrote:

Thanks for the info.

I picture that you typed this while a little sad because it wasn't your inside info.

Admit it.:tongue2:

"Section126 wrote:

Thanks for the info.

On lmeister's boner?

"PhinsRDbest wrote:

On lmeister's boner?

its not the size of the info, its how you use it.

"Finascious D wrote:

I picture that you typed this while a little sad because it wasn't your inside info.

Admit it.:tongue2:

Of course. Was there any doubt?

I still don't see how a renovated 25 year old stadium gets the bid over a brand new 1.3 billion Bay area stadium....

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

I still don't see how a renovated 25 year old stadium gets the bid over a brand new 1.3 billion Bay area stadium....

The NFL loves to party in South Florida.

As much as they love brand new stadiums?

My money is on S Fran area.

Plus it is kinda Ross' typical PR fate to renovate but not get the bid, no?

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

As much as they love brand new stadiums?

My money is on S Fran area.

Plus it is kinda Ross' typical PR fate to renovate but not get the bid, no?

He's suggested that he's already been told that renovations = super bowl.

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

I still don't see how a renovated 25 year old stadium gets the bid over a brand new 1.3 billion Bay area stadium....

It won't, Santa Clara is getting that Super Bowl - bank on it. The NFL has wanted a Super Bowl in San Francisco for years. We only got the last one because the NFL had already awarded it to SF, but when the stadium didn't get approved in time, they moved it here.

This is all politics, and Ross is playing hard to see if he can get it.

Check out this article :

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-01-21/sports/fl-dolphins-biz-0122-20130121_1_dolphins-owner-dolphins-fans-dolphins-move

You can believe him, or you don't. After the Marlins fiasco, I wouldn't put it past anyone, including Ross to lie through his teeth. This is to put pressure on Dade County officials. It also is good business for Ross - his company will build a wonderful stadium in LA. For him it works both ways. And in the end he may also be able to go to the NFL and say, "hey they won't help me in Miami, so maybe it would be good business to move the Dolphins". The money he loses by either abandoning SLS will be more than made up by the difference he would make in owning a Los Angeles franchise. He could turn around and sell it for at least $ 2 billion. If the Dodgers can command that kind of money, so can a Los Angeles NFL team in a new stadium.

Would I sell it, no, would he sell it ? Probably not for a few years, but can you imagine the money you would get from NFL clothing alone for a new Los Angeles franchise ? The 1st couple of years it would be in the hundreds of millions.

If that's the case then kudos to Ross for not waiting for the city to get something done.

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

I still don't see how a renovated 25 year old stadium gets the bid over a brand new 1.3 billion Bay area stadium....

-East Cost Timezone
-Miami fans don't stab and kill other fans
-Richer owner in Miami
-Better weather in February

Just a few pros I could think of off the top of my head.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

The NFL loves to party in South Florida.

Yeah but they can get bored if they see one place too many times.

Trust me, no matter what, Santa Clara is getting that Super Bowl. If you remember Miami is also in line to compete for 51. Go back and listen to the press conference from last year. We could get that one, but 50 is a LOCK for Santa Clara

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

As much as they love brand new stadiums?

My money is on S Fran area.

Plus it is kinda Ross' typical PR fate to renovate but not get the bid, no?

51 is a good bet, but 50 is a pipe dream. I think Ross knows this, but he wants those renovations done as quickly as possible. I think he believes that is part of why people aren't going to games.

There are many possible side stories to all of this. Many possible scenarios. I just posted one above.

State $$$ will be there as long as Nolan Carroll is on the team.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

He's suggested that he's already been told that renovations = super bowl.

No doubt it will be back here, but 50 is going to Santa Clara. If you are fooled into believing otherwise Ross must wish you are on the Dade County Commish

"PhinishLine wrote:

-East Cost Timezone (how many times has the game been in San Diego or Los Angeles or Phoenix ? Non issue)
-Miami fans don't stab and kill other fans (no guarantee SF fans will be at the game)
-Richer owner in Miami (is a non issue)
-Better weather in February (then why is the next Super Bowl being played in New Jersey ?)

Just a few pros I could think of off the top of my head.

Please answer

"padre31 wrote:

Good, the only thing I don't like about this is not only the canopy (which looks dreadful imo) but they keep pouring money into this stadium when a new facility would probably be what is needed.

At BC place in Vancouver, they have a sort of umbrella device that hangs over the middle of the field, they can open it in bad weather or retract it in good weather, they put the massive screens on below the device and over the center of the field (as in the Cowboys crypt) which to me would make for more comfortable watching of replays.

Screens at the end of the field takes the fans eyes off of the field.

I agree with you from an investment POV...but I surely do appreciate Ross doing the things he's trying to do for our fanbase, its obvious now that some of the right people know there's a problem inside that stadium..

I hope that we all can think about these gestures a bit more, and maybe start to support our owner a lot more..

I'm sure as hell not mad at him for flying across the country to speak to the best coaching prospect ever..FU$$ Sparano, FU$$ Parcells, and fu$$ the Diaz bruthers...our owner likes to spend money on our franchise, and promises to keep us here for a long time..

Hey Rush?, anything you can find out about what's really gonna go down in terms of moving concrete closer?, or is ADDING some seats at the bottom what were talking about here?

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

I still don't see how a renovated 25 year old stadium gets the bid over a brand new 1.3 billion Bay area stadium....

If you wanna get anymore superbowls or big time World Cup events, it has to be done eventually, lets get it done, if we don't get 2015, we'll get 2016, no problem if its done right.

"Lloyd Heilbrunn wrote:

I still don't see how a renovated 25 year old stadium gets the bid over a brand new 1.3 billion Bay area stadium....

If it were any other Super Bowl I'd say you're correct. Santa Clara will get their Super Bowl, there's no doubt about that. But IMO I think Miami has a legitimate chance at getting SB 50 because I think there will be a number of owners that will want the landmark Super Bowl in a location that's proven as a Super Bowl host and which has the requisite amenities to handle all the extracurricular activities.

"dcafiero wrote:

its not the size of the info, its how you use it.

And the load of knowledge...

"oakelmpine wrote:

Please answer

Well...for 1....if the NFL is trying to appeal more to overseas....it's better for the SB to be on the EC where London is only 5 hours (11pm) vs. 8 hours (2am) to watch the Superbowl. Imagine how many more Americans would have watched the World Cup if it wasn't coming on at 2-3 in the morning.

The owners with the longest tenure and the most money typically have influence in the league. Its just how power politics are played out. While Ross is a new comer, he's one of the richest owners in the league. Don't think for a minute that that doesn't play a factor in politics of the league.

And while the weather in the Bay is nothing like Minnesota....a 50-60 degree Bay area with a breeze isn't going to beat out a 72 degree Miami in February. It just isn't.