So let me make sure I am clear on this whole Daboll hire....
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CANEPHINSforum_veteranOP1. He is coming from Cleveland whose offense was not only worse than ours, but could only put up 252 yards on us. I mean this is what is supposed to be an exciting passing attack that will harken back to the days of Marino. That is what Ross said, right?
In the past two seasons as Cleveland’s offensive coordinator, Daboll’s offense has ranked 32nd and 29th in the NFL in total yards, and 29th and 31st in points scored.
Yeah...that gets me very excited. :no:
2. Pennington says he develops QB's. What QB's has Cleveland developed?
3. This is supposed to be change, right?
Pennington said to expect Daboll’s offense to blend certain Weis/Belichick/McDaniels concepts with Schottenheimer/Cameron concepts, though it won’t be radically different from the offense Dan Henning ran for three years in Miami.
I thought the goal here was to radically change the offense so we become a modern offense that can stretch the field with big plays from the passing game. Henning's offense provided none of that, yet we aren't going to change much of what he did? Guess the Wildcat is here to stay.
4. So Pennington thinks I should be excited over this hire, we should all be excited.
“should be excited about the possibilities,” and that Daboll, nearly half Henning’s age (68), could provide the offensive meeting rooms with a jolt of energy.
“He’s a very energetic coach,” Pennington said. “As a player, when you see the knowledge that the guy has, I think age is not important.”
So the guy is energetic and that is going to make us better on offense. He comes to us from an offense which really was not much better than us and was one of the worst in the league. Yet because he is 35 and energetic we should be excited about this hire.
I think I am seeing a giant snow job from Ross and Co. Nothing is changing. This hire does nothing to fire up the fanbase and it is going to take a lot of proving to erase these doubts.
Yes...I am officially a non-believer in this new hire.
finsergNew MemberIts like just when you think your up you get kick in the n@ts again and fall flat down
What the hell is going on with these dolphins ?
GMJohnsonNew MemberCan we just make one "I wanna bitch about the OC" thread and leave it at that?
CANEPHINSforum_veteranI just don't get it.
Honestly, nobody they interviewed got me excited. The two we were sold on were both from Cleveland. Chud was/is no better.
I could have gotten a little excited over Childress, but he comes with baggage.
I am pretty sure they could have talked with coaches from teams that actually move the ball on offense, but for some reason they couldn't bear to do that.
CANEPHINSforum_veteranI have been kicked in the nuts so many times by them that I now have 3 Adams Apples.
X-PacolypseNew MemberInsanity: Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteranWhat quarterback was he supposed to develop at Cleveland?
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"X-Pacolypse wrote:
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
That would make me insane for clicking on this thread expected for accurate football commentary.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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CANEPHINSforum_veteranHe was given Anderson and Quinn....both were terrible.
McCoy was able to get by on his raw talent, and that still wasn't enough.
Pandarillaforum_veteranDissent is the greatest form of patriotism...beeyotches!
princekong2New MemberThen Again, What Did Daboll Have to Work W/ In Cleveland
-A Rookie QB
-Not So Great WRs
-A Power Back,
-And Josh Cribbs
Cant Really Open Things Up, Cant Make Chicken Salad outta Chicken Shxt
In Miami He Has
A 4th Yr QB w/ An Arm, But Has Been Under A Horrible System
-A Good Group Of Receivers Although Lacking A Legit Deep Threat
-Possibly A New Set Of Fresh Legs at RB
-A So-So O-Line (i Believe Cleveland Has a Better O-Line Than Us)
Let The Man Work First, Dnt Kick Him To the Curb Just by His Previous Experiences and Plus Hes Young So he Should Fire and Mix Things Up
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"CANEPHINS wrote:
He was given Anderson and Quinn....both were terrible.
McCoy was able to get by on his raw talent, and that still wasn't enough.
And both are still terrible.
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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Atleast Colt McCoy looked good (Outside of the Steelers and Ravens debacles), their offense worked a lot better with him under Center. This concerns me somewhat because if mobility is required to run his offense than Henne won't succeed.
fragsNew MemberIt gets better...look at these comments:
"Arrogance and incompetence are the two words I'd use to describe Offensive Coordinator Brian Daboll and his offensive staff.
Daboll and Co. came with Eric Mangini from New England via New York.
Within an hour of Mangini being fired, word began leaking out to the press that Daboll did not want to listen to any offensive advice they tried to give him."
From a Cleveland Browns forum:
MiaDolphan13 wrote: I dont like this hire at all...but is he at least aggressive? and not old school like our old OC?
"He can't put a whole game together. When something works in the first half we stop using it in the 2nd.
He's good with wildcat and trick plays."
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More of the same...sigh...Believe me when I tell you many comments abound on Cleveland forums about this guy...and most are surprised we picked him and/or they intrigued about the thought of seeing if he can do something with more talent in Miami.
Not trying to be pessimistic, but I never thought I would think of a draft a year from now (2012). I stand by my assessment that Ross is giving Sparano this year to prove something and if not he gets the boot and he did so in order to save face.
CANEPHINSforum_veteranRight. So he didn't help develop anyone in Cleveland.
firedanforum_veteranFrom the great Jim Mandich school of verbular cliches';"It don't make your toes tingle".
CANEPHINSforum_veteranA 4th Yr QB w/ An Arm,
Where have you seen this arm? Even when he throws it deep it is usually under thrown (unless it is to Hartline). He has no touch and is constantly off target with the ball. There are very few passes in a game where you go, "that was a great throw by Henne".
adamprez2003forum_veteranross should have done nothing this offseason. no attempts to find a new coach and no extensions. he should have told sparano he has one year to get us in the playoffs and its up to him if he wants to keep his coaching assistants or not. its his ass on the line. i honestly dont get the sense that this is like the nolan hire where we actively sought out nolan. this just seems like we blew up the offensive coaching staff for the sake of blowing it up and didnt really get what we wanted
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miamironforum_veteranCleveland Browns forums had this to say
He seriously can't leave soon enough.
Good riddance.
it's not like daboll is calling games any different than he did last season. it's the same old uncreative, predictable crap he called last season.
Right, once again Daboll seemed to be "coaching not to lose" with a 14 point lead... sooner or later you better start coaching "to win" and to save your effing job. (he'll fit right in here)
It's very true....Daboll does not adjust at halftime ever. We go into the game with one game plan and if that doesn't work there are no adjustments.
that still doesn't excuse daboll's pathetic play calling. i know jr high school coaches that draw up better plays than he does. daboll's play calling would've worked well back in the 30s, the 40s and the 50s. but that ancient crap he's calling isn't going to work in 2010.
GET READY FOR A FUN SEASON
Dansarsubscriber"adamprez2003 wrote:
ross should have done nothing this offseason. no attempts to find a new coach and no extensions. he should have told sparano he has one year to get us in the playoffs and its up to him if he wants to keep his coaching assistants or not. its his ass on the line. i honestly dont get the sense that this is like the nolan hire where we actively sought out nolan. this just seems like we blew up the offensive coaching staff for the sake of blowing it up and didnt really get what we wanted
Nolan fell in our lap when Macdaniels got rid of him, much like Pennington did.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"CANEPHINS wrote:
Right. So he didn't help develop anyone in Cleveland.
He didn't really have a chance. 1 year of working with someone doesn't give one much chance to develop
Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain
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we now have a oc that isn't named dan henning and theres still complaining? unbeleivable.
who did some of you guys think we were going to be able to get after the circus act? you actually think we were going to land a josh mcdaniels or marty mornngwhig(sp) or john gruden to be our o.c? we are lucky to get a o.c so quickly,now we can start work on the rest of the stafft,start looking at f.a. and get ready for the combine.
lets play a few games before we try and run this o.c out of town too! you could say hellen keller could call better plays than henning well here's her chance.
I think this is all a wash anyway. My feelings are Ross will be ripping out the whole thing in 2012 because the "lock" and "union" crap will be out of the way by then and there will be no interuptions to offseason activities, practices, free agency etc...
He is going to can the whole damn thing and bring in Cowher, so why not bring in an OC that is as bad or worse than what we already have? He needed to bring somneone in...it's only for 1 year
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