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SI Ranks Back-up QBs

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  1. TiP54

    TiP54 Bad Reputation

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    I wanna start with the fact that I think this list is a joke..Mike Vick is 2nd on that list.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/08/20/backups/1.html

     
  2. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Vick wasn't as good as some backups when he was a starter.
     
  3. sking29

    sking29 What it takes to be cool

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    Not so sure Chris Simms and Alex Smith are backups. The latest I heard was that Smith was looking to be the number 1 QB in San Francisco and that because of Orton's poor play last week that his lock on the starting job is very much in doubt. Also you can throw Kellen Clemens and Vince Young in there as well.
     
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  4. dolfan94

    dolfan94 New Member

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    I saw Henne dominate against Arizona in Week 2 last year. He could've scored the touchdown himself, but they decided to call a running play for the TD. And NO, it wasnt a prevent defense.

    Its one drive, but that's all we've seen, and it was very impressive. The composure he handled himself with, especially in the middle of a game, in Week 2 of your rookie year
     
  5. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Championship games, perennial playoffs, largely on his legs and half arm? He's not the prototypical QB but the results spoke for themselves. Yeah he only threw 54% throughout his career, but save for his first year he never threw more INT than TDs. His average ypc is over 7 and that's with a significant amount of carries. I mean come on, we're the team that introduced the wildcat last year, prototypical offense is not our calling card.
     
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  6. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Hard to argue... while I wouldn't want 80% of those QBs above Henne as my backup QB over Henne... I can understand why they are rated above him right now.
     
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  7. Celtkin

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    Sage Rosenfels at 4? :lol: Has anyone at SI looked at his career stats lately?
     
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  8. Silverphin

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    That may be true. But remember 2005.
     
  9. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    He also never had back-to-back winning seasons. If that doesn't scream inconsistent I don't know what does. And the 54% goes to show you he may just have had superior talent around him, not to mention the Falcons were a solid defensive team for the most part while he was there.
     
  10. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    11. Chad Henne, Miami
    -- Henne is a great example of a young passer who is fairly well thought of, and the Dolphins still consider him their quarterback of the future. But the reality is, no one has ever seen him deliver in the NFL, so we're just projecting him as an upper tier backup. Given Chad Pennington's history for not staying healthy for long, Henne figures to play at some point this season and prove us right or wrong.
    something to think about & something to consider:sad:
     
  11. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member


    Wow...Vick surely does make some writers **** themselves...two years out of the game, not being able to even workout in the football fashion and he's rated the #1 backup ?? How can they even tell that ?? It's not like he was an elite QB when he was in his prime. Sure, he could run like there was no tomorrow and because of that, carved a fairly successful niche at the QB spot in Hotlanta, but this is two years later and he's been out of the game...I don't see that one at all...

    And Rosenfels must have really improved since he was here...he was just a step or so ahead of Big Ray Lucas in the annals of QB play here...
     
  12. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Sage probably has the best/strongest passing arm Miami has seen since Marino
     
  13. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sounds like our starting QB right now doesn't it? :up:
     
  14. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Well no, lol. For one, Penny's accuracy is just a tad higher than Vick's. Also, Penny played for the Jets, an automatic free-pass when discussing Team Wins and Losses.
     
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  15. Dolfan984

    Dolfan984 Underrated Free Agent

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    66% > 54%

    It's a difference of completing 22% more of your passes. That's pretty big.
     
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    Because his throws were usually uncatchable for anyone one the field. He never threw with any touch. He would try a gun a 5 yard pass the same as a 20 yarder. Hell.....they blame his receivers for the passing percentage but look what Matt Ryan did with them.
     
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  17. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I meant the inconsistency :up:

    I already said his completion percentage is not that great, but he is a weapon in other ways.
     
  18. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That logic only works if the TD rate is not higher. His supposed INTs are not catchable his TDs are? Faulty reasoning there.
     
  19. DrAstroZoom

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    What would Scouts Inc. say? :chuckle:
     
  20. the 23rd

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    Vic is going to create a new dimension on the EagleOffense with the SingleWing/Spread system
    he's much more than the best backup in the league. the Eagles could be very dangerous this year
     
  21. TiP54

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    He actually should of had the TD, Ronnie dropped it. THa pass was a bit behind Ronnie, but he droped it.
     
  22. DaFish

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    With the exception of 2002, it was pretty darn close.
     
  23. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    CT posts the swimsuit edition and Mark posts back up Qb's....:shifty:
     
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  24. Stringer Bell

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    You really can't compare Vick's completion % to Pennington's. Pennington usually has 3 reads - the third being a dumpoff to a safety valve.

    Vick had three reads as well - WR1, TE, and his third read would be just to take off on his feet.

    Now it isn't easy to quantify, but Vick never had dumpoff passes to help his completion percentage.

    Not saying that Vick is as accurate as Pennington, but Vick was a lot more accurate than perceived.
     
  25. Stringer Bell

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    The list appears to be pretty spot-on to me. Not sure who any of you guys would put ahead of Vick. The guy is a former pro-bowler, and took his team to the NFC title game. His resume is a lot better than anyone else on that list.
     
  26. PhinsRock

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    Have to agree with Stringer Bell on this one, at least re: Vick. The rest of the list is well very speculative. None of this stuff means anything, that's why they play the games.
     
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  27. Big E

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    Kitna should be higher, def. higher than Culpepper.
     

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