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Shaquem Griffin..Needs to be a Miami Dolphin

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by djphinfan, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/07/28/shaquem-griffin-vs-arkansas-state-2016/

    Just watch the kid on one play first, at 1:50

    remember he rushes the passer as well like a demon, and drops in coverage with instincts and fluidity.


    oh yeah, he plays with one hand, the other one is not there.

    he dominated the auburn tigers today, was all over the field, nothing can stop him I believe, not any kind of adversity, this kid loves the game, and his head coach went on the record and said, players will come and go, but no'one will ever practice harder that Shaqueem Griffin''

    We need this kid on our team for multiple reasons..Athleticism..instincts, versatility and Inspiration..

    watch the play at 2:18 against auburn today..watch the versatility, quickness, instincts, and flat out speed.

    Then watch the very next play at 2:06 and tell me you don't want him too.

    Oh yeah and watch him win the game on the last play of this huge game with an explosive get off and pressure forcing the int
     
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  2. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    Agree, but I wouldn't wish that on him. UCF's defense, and Griffin particularly, feature more flexibility and versatility than Burke would know what to do with.
     
  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    from what this kid has overcome, maybe he can help Burke..

    I take it your not a fan of the wide 9 scheme?
     
  4. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    It's a wide alignment pass rush set, not a ****ing defense. So no, not a fan; at all.
     
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  5. The Finest

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    He's a special player

    We would be fortunate to draft him
     
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  6. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    so your issue is that we should only be running this set when its a pass rush situation? are we lining up in the wide 9 in base defense?
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I cant wrap my head around this kid.

    you hear the story about what Armando wrote today...?says our team is undisciplined and immature..cites proof in the article..team really didn't care too much after losses..

    Put this kid on the roster, according to his head coach there isn't anyone on the planet that can or ever will, work harder then he does.
     
  8. Carmen Cygni

    Carmen Cygni Well-Known Member

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    Sure are. Our base DL alignment is the NT at 1 tech, DT at 3+ tech, and the DE's in the 9. In passing subpackages we'll split both interior DT's to the 3, and the DE's will again be in 9. And on rare occasions when we shift to an Under front the WDE will still be kicked out in no man's land.
     
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  9. djphinfan

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    Would a player Like Raeqwon help this formation a lot more?, I mean part of its design is to funnel the run towards the mike, and that kid has range, strength and instincts to clean up anything and everything in that area.
     
  10. Carmen Cygni

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    I like McMillan a lot (would rather have had Foster in the 1st and Willis in the 2nd), and I believe he'll help in parts but it's our overall system that is out of whack.

    For starters, despite the wide set, with a penetrating and force defensive philosophy, it's still easy to get outside on us. Our DL's read pass first and react to the pass so too often our DE's will rush too far upfield and leave creases in the process. It also leaves them (DE's) susceptible to trap and power plays on the edge; even standard stretch plays catch them out of position.
     
  11. djphinfan

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    hes 6'1 around 225..he's a nightmare for Qbs because he's so good, athletic, and relentless, like really relentless, he covers a wide receiver 40 yards downfield and makes the play because of sound technique, he spin moves viscously and finishes the qb with violence on arrival, time after time, he tracks down the LOS with speed and vision, he scoops and scores because of his awareness..

    Im willing to spend more for him the any other team.
     
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  12. djphinfan

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    put this kid and Raekwon on the same field together and let them figure sh## out, and once they do that, let them give nightmares..
     
  13. Rdrunn004

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    I would love to see him in a Dolphins uniform. Watch the kid play a few times and came away very impressed. Him and the QB as well.
     
  14. BevoPhin

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    A little off topic but my favorite coach was my secondary coach in MS and HS and he had one arm. Dude was a beast at blocking kicks and coverage and worked harder then everyone.
     
  15. gilv13

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    Shaquem accepted an invite to play in the senior bowl. Good opportunity to impress a coaching staff.
     
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  16. djphinfan

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    damn it...im selfish, wanted the least exposure possible..these all star games and combine are gonna elevate him..he's an excellent movement player, has unique athletic traits.
     
  17. dolphin25

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    We have Wake as a hard worker, and that has not really motivated the team.
     
  18. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    quite simply we need more like him to make a difference..
     
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  19. FinNasty

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    Yaaaaaaaa... so about that.... lol



     
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  20. FinNasty

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    On a related note... this is pretty freakin absurd...

     
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  21. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    More of him less of Landry.
     
  22. The Finest

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    Unreal
     
  23. FinNasty

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    Hmmm... gee I wonder why? Were any other 1st or 2nd team All-Americans left out of the combine? :glare:

    Ridiculous. People keep doubting this kid. He’s already got a chip on his shoulder the size of a mountain... and crap like this continues to make it bigger.
     
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  24. FinNasty

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    Day 3 notes...

    South

    Not as much action for the south team, but here were my takeaways:

    • James Washington continues to be one of the best players out on the field from both teams. He’s been uncoverable so far. He shows incredible burst off the line and smoothness out of his breaks. His route running is far superior to anyone else here, and his speed and hands kill DBs on deep routes. This guy should be a first round lock after this week.
    • Darin Neal and Levi Wallace remain my favorite corners and both had solid days. Neal got a little grabby at times, but he is very physical with receivers off the line.
    • Shaq Griffin shows very smooth hips, flipping them easily in coverage to mirror the quarterback in zone. He covers like a safety, and looked good in 1on1 drills.
    • Linebacker Dorian O’Daniel (a tweener at 215lbs) had a really great pass breakup in 1on1 drills.
    https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/1/24/16930070/senior-bowl-day-3-recap
     
  25. FinNasty

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  26. Fin D

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    Only player I'll be upset if we don't get.
     
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  27. FinNasty

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    Killin ‘em...





     
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  28. djphinfan

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    he don't need your stinking charity trophy Phil savage..
     
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  29. djphinfan

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    So NFL network was interviewing him during the actual Senior Bowl Game, and Shaq said he was going to call the combine committee this week to see if he can get invited (which is absurd to me he wasn't invited but whatever.)

    During the interview, he was supposed to be in on special teams and he missed going out live on TV. I lol'd.
     
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  31. adamprez2003

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    I'l pass. Aside from the obvious problems He's going to have, he is undersized and not that great a pass rusher. Sure he has some nice looking sacks but rushing the QB isn' one of his strengths. There are a lot of undersized lb prospects that are just as quick and will get more pick offs.

    Still as a sixth rounder, maybe even a 5th I wouldn't be upset if we did get him. I think He'll be a good backup
     
  32. FinNasty

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    I'm assuming you mean by pickoffs that you mean will get more INT's? Just FYI... Shaquem has more career INTs, PDs, FR, FF, and TDs than a lot of the top LB prospects in this draft. And he did that in basically only 2 years.

    Shaquem Griffin - 3 INTs - 16 PD - 5 FR - 4 FF - 1 TD

    Roquan Smith: 0 INTs - 3 PD - 3 FR - 3 FF - 0 TDs
    Harold Landry: 0 INTs - 6 PD - 1 FR - 10 FF - 0 TDs
    Tremaine Edmunds: 1 INT - 5 PD - 1 FR - 3 FF - 0 TDs
    Dorance Armstrong Jr.: 0 INTs - 8 PD - 3 FR - 6 FF - 0 TDs
    James Hearns: 0 INTs - 5 PD - 2 FR - 9 FF - 0 TDs
    Jerome Baker: 0 INTs - 4 PD - 3 FR - 1 FF - 1 TD
    Jeff Holland: 0 INTs - 1 PD - 2 FR - 5 FF - 0 TDs
    Lorenzo Carter: 0 INTs - 1 PD - 6 FR - 6 FF - 1 TD
    Kendall Joseph: 2 INTs - 1 PD - 1 FR - 3 FF - 0 TDs
    Rashaan Evans: 0 INTs - 5 PD - 2 FR - 2 FF - 0 TDs
    Oren Burks: 5 INTs - 21 PD - 2 FR - 1 FF - 2 TDs
    Malik Jefferson: 0 INTs - 5 PD - 1 FR - 2 FF - 1 TD
    Leighton Vander Esch: 3 INTs - 6 PD - 1 FR - 4 FF - 0 TDs

    He also had more sacks than all but 1 of them (Landry). He is undersized to play a pure DE/pass rusher role... but in the NFL he is well suited to play WLB where he run, chase, and hit. He's an aggressive and versatile defender that is a fantastic blitzer and great in coverage.
     
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  33. djphinfan

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    He’s a very good pass rusher...has very good speed..has very good instincts... has very good character....

    Had the third most pressures in college football... innate ability to disrupt..

    Calm smooth smart football player..lives pressure situations, thrives in them..

    Most importantly, has a unique trait only few possess..and it never fails at the next level.
     
  34. djphinfan

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    Lol... Prez, Wucha got to say bud?

    Those are incredible numbers for a two year player..just look at the stark differences..
     
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  35. djphinfan

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    And is a very good pass rusher...

    Dont want to forget that... he finds creative ways to get to the qb that I haven’t seen from other prospects..
     
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  36. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Those numbers are amazing
     
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  37. Phinsfan92

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    The question is where do you draft him? At what point is it not a reach to take him?

    I’m confident he’s at least going to be a solid player so I take him in the 5th no doubt if he’s there.
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I doubt it since Miami doesn't have a 5th
     
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    As of right now!
     
  40. FinNasty

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    Here are all the numbers with sacks added...

    Shaquem Griffin: 3 INTs - 16 PD - 5 FR - 4 FF - 1 TD - 18.5 sacks

    Roquan Smith: 0 INTs - 3 PD - 3 FR - 3 FF - 0 TDs – 6.5 Sacks
    Harold Landry: 0 INTs - 6 PD - 1 FR - 10 FF - 0 TDs – 25 sacks
    Tremaine Edmunds: 1 INT - 5 PD - 1 FR - 3 FF - 0 TDs – 10 sacks
    Dorance Armstrong Jr.: 0 INTs - 8 PD - 3 FR - 6 FF - 0 TDs – 15.5 sacks
    James Hearns: 0 INTs - 5 PD - 2 FR - 9 FF - 0 TDs – 17.5 sacks
    Jerome Baker: 0 INTs - 4 PD - 3 FR - 1 FF - 1 TD – 7 sacks
    Jeff Holland: 0 INTs - 1 PD - 2 FR - 5 FF - 0 TDs – 12.5 sacks
    Lorenzo Carter: 0 INTs - 1 PD - 6 FR - 6 FF - 1 TD – 14 sacks
    Kendall Joseph: 2 INTs - 1 PD - 1 FR - 3 FF - 0 TDs – 4 sacks
    Rashaan Evans: 0 INTs - 5 PD - 2 FR - 2 FF - 0 TDs – 15 sacks
    Oren Burks: 5 INTs - 21 PD - 2 FR - 1 FF - 2 TDs – 4.5 sacks
    Malik Jefferson: 0 INTs - 5 PD - 1 FR - 2 FF - 1 TD – 13 sacks
    Leighton Vander Esch: 3 INTs - 6 PD - 1 FR - 4 FF - 0 TDs – 13 sacks
     

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