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Shanahan wanted Tannehill

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/11/18/report-shanahan-wanted-tannehill-not-rgiii/

    How interesting, wonder if we would have moved up for RG3 at that point?

    In other Tannehill news

    14 Td's
    11 int's (including the hail mary one to end the Bucs game)
    2474 yds

    To put that into perspective, Henne's best yr he had 3301 15 Td's and 19 int's in 2011, anyone going to make any wagers that Tannehill can beat that this year?
     
  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    He will beat it, barring injury.

    hell, he pretty much already beat it last year.
     
  3. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I say he finishes with 23 Tds and 15 INTS with close to 4k yards.
     
  4. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Then we just may have Luke Kuechly
     
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  5. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I don't doubt it. Tannehill fits Shanahan's type to a T whereas before the draft I had a tough time believing that Shanahan was really driving the train on RG3.
     
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  6. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Boom chicka waaa-waaa
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I soo badly want Tannehill to top 20 Td's this year..it is a sort of obsession for me.

    I'm sick of dealing with the fact only Jay effn' Fiedler has thrown for 20 Td's or more for this team in over 10 yrs...think about that for a moment

    Last yr it also seemed like THill got into a negative Td to Int ratio and just could not break out of it, this yr he is 4 Tds to the > side by my count, which is great

    20 Td's..at least...have to have it
     
  8. Fin D

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    He just needs one per game.
     
  9. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I know, but suspect if we are to make a playoff push, he has to up that to 2 Td's per gm

    As I look back at stats and memory...wow..have we had bad Qb play..or mediocre Qb play

    Considering Wallace has 1 Td reception, and THill is basically using Bline/Clay and has no running game, it makes it more impressive.

    Hell if we just had an Avg Ronnie Brown or Ricky Williams season who knows where THill would be atm
     
  10. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Shanahan system prob a perfect fit for Tannehill. I wouldn't be opposed to Mike Shanahan coaching the Dolphins in 2014.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
  11. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Yeah, he just needs a line. The other pieces are there. Even the defense, in its current state is good enough. Seriously, a couple of less sacks that caused fumbles and we're a 7-3 team right now.

    The "scandal" has mixed with peoples' decades long frustration and colored the view of this team so that many think we're no better than the 1-15 team. In reality, we're just an oline away from being one of the better teams in the league.
     
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  12. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Snyder is a big problem in Washington. I still really like Shanahan.
     
  13. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    The way Shanahan would have used Ryan is the way our coaches should be using him
     
  14. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I'd add experience as well, we are just a very young team and imo, some of the losses have come from a lack of it on the roster.

    I like Philbin and Sherman's approach to Tannehill, like the coach them up stuff.

    Looking at Matthews, Shelby and Vernon, Clay

    BUT, the downside is sometimes we have the best system fits on the field, not the most talent

    Be interesting to see if Richie is re-instated this Thursday
     
  15. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Richie will never play for this team again.
     
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  16. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    as much as i hate on wallace, the two of them will click eventually. it will happen. once they start linking up i expected 2-3 to be the norm.
     
  17. RoninFin4

    RoninFin4 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Agree, his system would be perfect for Tannehill. Not sure I would like him as Miami's coach, or see him getting the axe for that matter, but his experience wouldn't hurt.
     
  18. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Snyder actually isn't as big of a problem as he used to be. He's kinda letting the football guys do their thing. And Shanahan trying to run RG3 into the ground is also a huge problem.
     
  19. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    What bothers me is the plays are there to be made
     
  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    yep. its going to happen
     
  21. finsincebirth

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    He also had that hail mary int at the end of the Pats game too, if we are going to keep track of those things.
     
  22. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Shanahan has like 2 playoff seasons since his SB wins in Denver. I think hes seen better days. You want a retread coach? Give me cowher or gruden.

    Edit: At this point I want 4K and 25TD from Tannehill
     
  23. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    No coach has won a Super Bowl with a new team after winning one with the previous one right?

    Small sample size maybe but it is something to consider . Don't buck telling trends , this is too important to take another misstep.
     
  24. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    One of the most overrated coaches in the league.
     
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  25. Nappy Roots

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    Two questions. CK, what makes Tannehill a better fit for Shannys system?

    And for the general public, how does Shannys system fit Tanny perfectly.
     
  26. padre31

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    11 Td's in 6 games would be THill going to the next level, I think he can do it

    Especially if he can dial in the deep ball to Wallace.

    Here is an interesting thought, "if' Philbin is canned, this will be the first time since JJ came here that a new HC actually has a good Qb to work with, wow, that is amazing to consider, JJ came here what...almost 20 yrs ago

    Thinking McCarty inheriting Favre w/Rodgers on the roster
     
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  27. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    The most important part of this though is to get the GM and scouting staff right. That is the aspect that has held this team back since the 2000 season.

    Got to have good personnel people, and the personnel guy and head coach have to be on the same page. I think a big part of what we are seeing with all this mess is that Joe Philbin and Jeff Ireland do not see eye to eye on personnel.
     
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  28. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Correct that no coach has won a SB with 2 different teams. Not correct on the sample size. 5 playoff appearances (1 win...that was the stat I was thinking of) in 13 coaching seasons since the SB wins. His best days went buh bye when Elway and TD went buh bye. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/ShanMi0.htm

    11 TD in 6 games is excellent QB production. Thats outside only that Rodgers/Brees/Peyton etc crew. Thats the type of season I expected him to have. I think I predicted 30TD...I would take 25 at this stage given that the first 10 games havent gone as well as I wanted for Tannehill stat-wise.

    The point about the Qb's is interesting, sad and true all at once :(
     
  29. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    We need to be in sync , top to bottom.

    Cohesive structure is badly needed.
     
  30. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Actually 3 of his 11 INT's have been via chucking it up at the end of games...

    Saints on 3rd and 14
    Patriots on 4th and 24
    Bucs on 4th and 28


    If you're evaluating his TD/INT ratio to judge his decision making, etc... hes sitting at 14 TDs, 8 INTs. Almost a 2/1 ratio...

    A hell of an improvement over last year... and significant progress from year 1 to year 2...
     
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  31. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Dont you want to fire Philbin and hire a new coach?
     
  32. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Cool, just think bulk stats are not particularly useful, to QBR etc an int is an int is an int

    Foolish really
     
  33. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Yes. And?
     
  34. SICK

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    God I just want to see Tannehill mix his running ability more like he did against Seattle last year...
     
  35. Aquafin

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    the poor house

    I wouldn't mind it one bit either but the win yesterday probally means we will keep everyone and we will go back to losing next season that is the future unless Ross wises up and does the right thing.
     
  36. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    So... you think the coach isn't a good one when they're "a couple of less sacks that caused fumbles and we're a 7-3 team right now."

    If we didnt have those bad breaks, and were 7-3... would you still feel that way?
     
  37. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Honestly, I'm not sure how I'm being so cryptic. I made a thread, that you obviously read where I state i was wrong about Philbin....and in that I explain why.

    The tide turned for me with the Tampa game. It wasn't so much that we lost, it was that the team started the game flat. To me, a team coming out fired up after the week they had is a mark of a great coach. Plus, he needs to fix his coordinators and he isn't.

    Here's the best part.....I may be wrong later. The team could turn it around and make the playoffs and then I'll realize I was wrong about being wrong.
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    That will just make you a flip-flopper. You are supposed to create an opinion and then stick with it, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!
     
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  39. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    I'm not being cryptic. IMO... either a coach is good or he isn't. If he's a good coach, I want him. If he's not, I don't. Tampa came out fired up, especially with the home crowd fired up for MNF and punched us in the mouth. We countered and punched them back. You're going to get punched in a fight... but how you respond is the more important reflection IMO.

    Either he's a good coach, or he isn't. I believe he is, and don't think a team coming out hot at home is some damning reflection, especially since the team didnt roll over.

    But I've derailed this thread enough...
     
  40. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    I hope you're not implying that I'm insinuating that? As evidence changes, so shall opinions...
     

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