Ryan Tannehill out for season!!

"LI phinfan wrote:

Whatever the way you want to play it is fine by me, Welcome aboard


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"bakedmatt wrote:

Do you think Matt Moore led the team to a comeback win or not?

A comeback is a specific thing. You have to be losing, and then comeback to win. Winning after being tied is not a comeback. Moore had an outstanding game winning drive, not a comeback. I don't understand the confusion.

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"Two Tacos wrote:

A comeback is a specific thing. You have to be losing, and then comeback to win. Winning after being tied is not a comeback. Moore had an outstanding game winning drive, not a comeback. I don't understand the confusion.

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You'll have to take this up with dolphin25.

I hope Tannehill has a full recovery and is ready to ball sooner than later.

MM is a solid backup to have. Hopefully, he'll be good over the next 3 and other guys step up.

That was a pretty disgusting hit.

We will see how long itll take to recover, an injury in mid december is a lot different than an injury in September..

You are pretty much forced to draft a quarterback or sign a free agent for insurance

"Two Tacos wrote:

A comeback is a specific thing. You have to be losing, and then comeback to win. Winning after being tied is not a comeback. Moore had an outstanding game winning drive, not a comeback. I don't understand the confusion.

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Yes, technically it's a game winning drive, not a comeback.

Either way though, he came in off the bench and scored when we needed it to secure a victory.

"Finster wrote:

Yes, technically it's a game winning drive, not a comeback.

Either way though, he came in off the bench and scored when we needed it to secure a victory.

Moore played well, so I'm not sure why we're getting so caught up on terminology here. He only threw one pass before that final drive since we tried to grind out the clock with the run game; there's not more he could have done under the circumstances.

And yes, it wasn't a perfect pass to Stills but the defender wasn't looking- that was smart to let your receiver make a play.

even though my tannehill liking wasn't that high, I still hate the fact this happened to him it was dirty and unreal how that's not a penalty, he deserved his chance to win and keep his job, he came back after the A$$ whooping from the ravens and responded well against AZ.

Matt moore is solid QB and if we keep running the ball we should be fine, moore has came in in a good spot he will get the jets as a warm up and then 2 contests in buffalo and NE, and I think NE rests its players if they win tonight against the ravens.

What we have to do is accept the mistakes moore is going to make I just hope he keeps them to a minimum, I really see stills and parker benefiting from this because moore likes to throw the ball down the field a little more than RT (sometimes not in the best situations) so I hope the tune up game in the jets he gets his rhythm.

So what do we do now with tannehill? keep him and his contract or draft a qb?

Watch the O look different with Moore at the helm, less dink and dunk play, more attacking downfield.

I think the RT era in Miami is over, based on what Gase has been saying, I think he's come to the conclusion that RT isn't the answer, I don't think RT was able to run his O the way he wants.

The way to see if this is true is to see how the O goes from here on out, if the O all of a sudden seems to expand in the next couple games, then you won't see RT in a Dolphins uni again.

"Finster wrote:

Watch the O look different with Moore at the helm, less dink and dunk play, more attacking downfield.

I think the RT era in Miami is over, based on what Gase has been saying, I think he's come to the conclusion that RT isn't the answer, I don't think RT was able to run his O the way he wants.

The way to see if this is true is to see how the O goes from here on out, if the O all of a sudden seems to expand in the next couple games, then you won't see RT in a Dolphins uni again.

What has Gase been saying that led you to that conclusion? :huh:

"Finster wrote:

Watch the O look different with Moore at the helm, less dink and dunk play, more attacking downfield.

I think the RT era in Miami is over, based on what Gase has been saying, I think he's come to the conclusion that RT isn't the answer, I don't think RT was able to run his O the way he wants.

The way to see if this is true is to see how the O goes from here on out, if the O all of a sudden seems to expand in the next couple games, then you won't see RT in a Dolphins uni again.

And if the offense goes south the next three games then what? I think you are way off here. Pretty sure RT was coming back next season, based on what Gase has been saying, Really not much debate. Will be rooting like hell for Matt to excel and lead us to victories, but if anyone thinks we are better off with Moore.....I think they are sadly mistaken and bias is clouding their eyes.

"bakedmatt wrote:

You'll have to take this up with dolphin25.

That was my bad, I should have said, game winning drive.

"gunn34 wrote:

It seems so many people are hoping that Matt Moore does bad just so they can say tannehill is better. It's a shame. Tannehill is better, but Moore has some really good qualities that can win us some games.

I don't think anyone wants that. I'd love to see Moore play well, and get us into the playoffs.

I don't see it happening, though. That prayer lob he threw to Stills is going to get picked more often than not. I think people have forgotten his penchant for turnovers.

"LI phinfan wrote:

And if the offense goes south the next three games then what? I think you are way off here. Pretty sure RT was coming back next season, based on what Gase has been saying, Really not much debate. Will be rooting like hell for Matt to excel and lead us to victories, but if anyone thinks we are better off with Moore.....I think they are sadly mistaken and bias is clouding their eyes.

What if it doesn't?

"KeyFin wrote:

Moore played well, so I'm not sure why we're getting so caught up on terminology here. He only threw one pass before that final drive since we tried to grind out the clock with the run game; there's not more he could have done under the circumstances.

And yes, it wasn't a perfect pass to Stills but the defender wasn't looking- that was smart to let your receiver make a play.

Well, It's true it wasn't a comeback win, I was just trying clear terminology up, so that semantics is not a part of it, it was a game winning drive not a comeback.

MM made a couple crisp throws, that one to Stills though, it was either a very good underthrow, or just a poor throw, lol, but it was the perfect time to throw an underthrow pass, when the DB is "chasing" like that, if the DB is "sticking" then an underthrow is a bad idea.

For the sake of argument we can give him the benefit of the doubt I think.

"dolphin25 wrote:

What if it doesn't?

Then great for Matt Moore and this team. I am not getting it?? Then we keep Moore for next season as a back up to RT. Any other conclusion, no matter how hard you try or wish, is silliness. Do you or anybody else think we are in a better position with Moore right now? seriously? Your obvious dislike for Tannehill has clouded your mind.

"LI phinfan wrote:

And if the offense goes south the next three games then what? I think you are way off here. Pretty sure RT was coming back next season, based on what Gase has been saying, Really not much debate. Will be rooting like hell for Matt to excel and lead us to victories, but if anyone thinks we are better off with Moore.....I think they are sadly mistaken and bias is clouding their eyes.

I don't think we are better, but I certainly don't feel we are "much worse" with moore!!

"resnor wrote:

I don't think anyone wants that. I'd love to see Moore play well, and get us into the playoffs.

I don't see it happening, though. That prayer lob he threw to Stills is going to get picked more often than not. I think people have forgotten his penchant for turnovers.

His last 3 starts resulted in 6 turnovers, all losses. That's why they drafted Tannehill the next year.

"Finster wrote:

Well, It's true it wasn't a comeback win, I was just trying clear terminology up, so that semantics is not a part of it, it was a game winning drive not a comeback.

MM made a couple crisp throws, that one to Stills though, it was either a very good underthrow, or just a poor throw, lol, but it was the perfect time to throw an underthrow pass, when the DB is "chasing" like that, if the DB is "sticking" then an underthrow is a bad idea.

For the sake of argument we can give him the benefit of the doubt I think.

im sure it was an under throw, but that's to be expected for not taking any practice snaps to know stills speed and sitting in rain all game lol just glad it worked out.

"bigballa2102 wrote:

I don't think we are better, but I certainly don't feel we are "much worse" with moore!!

I am just afraid of his lack of mobility. Hopefully he cuts down on the turnovers and hits some big plays...been our recipe for winning this season

there's gonna be less freedom at the los for the qb

less ability to check out and audible more whatever gase calls we go with cause gase isn't gonna trust matt moore enough to do it any other way

nor should he

about the only real freedom I expect is the run pass option stuff where the qb counts the box

zone read more hand it off to the back regardless. less move the pocket work more stress on the o line in the run game given no threat at the qb position to run the ball with. teams could care less about matt moore keeping it on the zone read

if you put the game in matt moores hands to win it with solid reads and decision making you are going to lose. and he has scattershot underneath accuracy to boot in addition to takes bad sacks at bad times and throws the ball into coverage. throws the ball without clarity

better hope you can rely on the run game and play action

"LI phinfan wrote:

I am just afraid of his lack of mobility. Hopefully he cuts down on the turnovers and hits some big plays...been our recipe for winning this season

I think his decision making is a little faster than RT, weather its a good decision or not, I am ok with a few turnovers if he's trying deep balls, but I certainly feel we are not a sinking ship.

"Brasfin wrote:

What has Gase been saying that led you to that conclusion? :huh:

Gase has been scaling back the plays, he said it again this week that he was going to further scale down the plays, and that he was going to rely on Ajayi a lot, and not let up on running, and he even said run more than usual.

Reading between the lines, this is not trusting the QB, this is the way to take away the QB's impact, not a thing traditionally seen with franchise QBs.

So if the O starts to expand in the next couple weeks, that will tell me my theory is true.

"Finster wrote:

Watch the O look different with Moore at the helm, less dink and dunk play, more attacking downfield.

I think the RT era in Miami is over, based on what Gase has been saying, I think he's come to the conclusion that RT isn't the answer, I don't think RT was able to run his O the way he wants.

The way to see if this is true is to see how the O goes from here on out, if the O all of a sudden seems to expand in the next couple games, then you won't see RT in a Dolphins uni again.

Fair, and imo, you know absolutely nothing about this team or football in general.

"Hoops wrote:

there's gonna be less freedom at the los for the qb

less ability to check out and audible more whatever gase calls we go with cause gase isn't gonna trust matt moore enough to do it any other way

nor should he

about the only real freedom I expect is the run pass option stuff where the qb counts the box

zone read more hand it off to the back regardless. less move the pocket work more stress on the o line in the run game given no threat at the qb position to run the ball with. teams could care less about matt moore keeping it on the zone read

if you put the game in matt moores hands to win it with solid reads and decision making you are going to lose. and he has scattershot underneath accuracy to boot in addition to takes bad sacks at bad times and throws the ball into coverage

better hope you can rely on the run game and play action

Do you think its the end of the Tannehill era in Miami,barring a much worse diagnosis on his knee? Do you see just a slight drop off from Tannehill to Moore? or as some have suggested just as good or better?