Rumor: Tebow on the Trade Block, Miami Dolphins a possibility

Yes, dominated. See above....from inside the 10yrd line....Tebow scored 7 TDs out of 10 attempts. 70% success at converting a TD from inside the 10yrd line (short redzone situation) when the D has some of the smallest areas to defend. That's domination in my book. Thats TDs, not FGs!

I would be thrilled to have him in those situations, and feel he has the talent and desire to succeed if you ask him to seek more touches from non-QB offensive plays out of TE/H-back role, etc.

As far as why they want to trade him, I am not overly concerned with. for the right price, I want Miami to land him. Especially over the Jets. Do not want Tebow to replace what Smith provided them. That would not benefit Miami in any way.

 

I would take Tebow if he were released, but I would not take him with that contract...

 

They were both full time college QBs who converted to RB in the NFL. Reeves left South Carolina as their career record holder for passing yards.
Bobby Douglass was another old timer that had similarities to Tebow, 6'4 and 225 when few QBs were much over 200, left handed passer with a cannon arm and superb running QB who is 2nd all time in avg rushing yds per game for a QB over a 5 yr span to Randall Cunningham. He wasn't an accurate passer though, played on mostly bad teams and ended up with many more ints than TDs by the time he was through. He probably should have also been converted to RB when he arrived in the NFL, like Matte and Reeves.

 

Good points. I just don't see Tebow as a RB or TE. hard running QB, especially these days, is a far cry from an NFL caliber RB.

 

I'll be the first to admit I thought Tebow was drafted wayyyyyy too high, and is a project QB. But I have NEVER seen a 1st Round QB fall from grace as fast and as hard as this guy. I believe his first NFL start he had a QB rating of 100, then his second game is around 90. His third game was so-so. That would have most fans/teams giddy about their guy. It's really amazing, though I think part of the reason is John Fox really just doesn't like the guy (from a football standpoint, Tebow is probably the nicest kid ever)

I will say that I THINK he could be a solid TE. I really don't see why not. He's a pretty damn good athlete, runs well, and obviously has no fear when it comes to taking on tacklers. And, a puppy will die from me saying this, but he also would bring another dimension to...THE WILDCAT!!!

 

Why would we be interested in Tebow when we have Chad Henne? Think about it.

 

Tebow will do great in the CFL

 

If for no other reason than a solid developmental prospect ...

 

if we pick up Tebow as a developmental project, what will Henne do? I thought that was his job.
anybody see Beck in the Redskin/Raven game?
maybe we can work something out with Washington for Beck, if Crossman wins the start.

 

Umm....No?

Henne is entering his 4th year. If he is still a "developmental project" then its time to move on from him. I dont think Henne is good at all, but hes way better are further a long then a "developmental project"

 

Albert Einstein said
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results
Henne, Henne, Henne, Henne

 

Albert Einstein didn't know anything about football...

 

You are not trading for Tebow to replace Henne. Its adding a playmaker for certain situations only, and seeking to have Tebow on the field as TE/H-back while Henne is primary QB. Tebow will add value with more offensive touches out of non-QB formations, and certainly add value as QB out of unique WC-esque/Single-wing formations expecially Goal to Go ones.

Dolphins are in no position to turn their nose up at Playmakers...and Tebow is a Playmaker. Add him at the right cost, and even Henne benefits from it with Tebow as TE/H-back, etc.

 

Well, for the reasons some of us have been saying, convert him to TE and/or RB and/or H-Back and/or Wildcat QB, while also having him fill the role of 3rd string emergency QB. Heck, I think he'd be pretty good on kickoff returns too. He's big and strong enough to run the ball a lot as a RB, and quick enough to get open in short zones as an H-Back. Heck he had an otherworldly 6.66 3 cone time at the combine. That's what Julio Jones did, and quicker than a AJ Green did. On campus he benched 225 lbs 38 times. That's one more rep than Jake Long did, albeit Jake has much long arms.

He's just an instinctive, natural football player, plain and simple. Where ever he plays position wise.

 

MrClean said
Insanity: Thinking every new NFL player is a Hindu like reincarnation of some previous player, when in fact each player is a law unto themselves.

 

I don't think Tebow is worth worrying about to be honest. I think a lot of people are looking at it from a strictly football standpoint and thats fine but Tebow brings a TON of baggage. Maybe its not his fault but he is already the top jersey sale in the NFL. You can't have Tebow on your bench with a starter like Henne. Fans would start a Tebow chant every time Henne makes a mistake, and Tebow is not anything close to a quality Qb at this point. I know its not Tebow's fault necessarily but its there. IF Tebow can come in as TE/Wildcat type player I think he's worth a shot but really I don't even see him as a spot starter/backup at this point. He's a terrible Qb with years ahead of him as a prospect.

And lets be real here, Denver is putting him up for trade because he can't beat out Brady Quinn.......think about that for a minute and tell me what his real value is in terms of draft pick(s). Think about it. I know everyone is still enamored with his college days and the "he's a winner and a good kid" stuff but he can't beat out Brady Quinn. If he could come in as a Brad Smith type guy and contribute to the team in a low key manner that would be really nice but he brings a ton of attention and hype and when we have a young starter we are trying to groom and a team that is still struggling with its identity I think Tebow is a major, major distraction. I think a team like Philly, NE, Indy, etc would be an ideal place for Tebow. A place like Miami or a team that has a lot of question marks at the Qb position its a nightmare IMHO.

 

Friend MrClean:
think about it. wouldn't matter to me if we brought in Tebow, Beck or Crossman. anyone that could potentially change the dynamics of our offense and/or provide legitimate competition @ QB. we need someone to @ least purvey a yeoman-like performance in 2011 to make the post-season. the 2011 NFL season would be a terrible thing to waste with the current talent we sport on this roster.

 

If it's true that Denver already paid Tebow that $6.3 million guaranteed portion of his contract as soon as the lockout ended, then I think the rumor that he's actually on the block may be false. The Dolphins would have to offer to pay the Broncos that money so that they can get cap credit, and that's not very common.

Although truthfully, I don't know why that should be what stands in the way of this. Just because something is not commonly done doesn't mean there's a good reason not to ever do it. In this case you'd be in essence signing Tim Tebow to a 4 year, $8.4 million deal with $6.3 million of it guaranteed. The prowess he showed as a goal line executioner ALONE makes him worth that.

 

Except this isn't doing the same thing over and over ...

New coordinator , new players , new formations ...

So in fairness he hasn't been put in a situation as positive as this before.

He deserves a chance to succeed.

 

Actually, the Henne line of thinking is one of the best reasons not to mess around with Tebow, for example if Tebow scored say 11 Td's in goaline situations, and henne throws for say 13 Td's, we still will have the same Henne, a guy who typically doesn't punch the ball into the EZ.

 

I wonder what the word is for using quotes that have nothing to do with what is actually happening here?

 

Its called a 23rd.

 

23th makes me chuckle, he is the dude in the marching band playing his own tune.

 

That's logic. Don't waste your time. Me, I'm asking what more Henne has to do than what he did to Carolina before the guy gets a break from the fans.

Back on topic, I think it would be interesting to bring him in, except for what he would cost.

 

All we need is Tebow. We're that close to a SB...

 

If Henne tosses for 13TDs while Tebow steps in and accounts for 11TDs (with legs or jump passes/rollouts/etc), I really dont see the point of crying over success, nor slamming Henne cause he QB'd the team inside the 10 yardline and Tebow enters to Score a TD 70% of the time.

Specualtion if silly, but complaining over 24TDs doesnt seem a reason to speculate why not to acquire a playmaker in Tebow.

Tebow would not be acquired to replace Henne. Thats the logic I am using. I want both on the field at the same time a far majority of the offensive plays.

Carry Tebow as TE/H-back ala Josh Cribbs listed as RB/WR, etc and let him run the offense inside the RedZone (especially 10yrd and under). Its not a QB competition...its a TD competition and would be thrilled with both aiding in 24 TDs.

 

Would Henne try to throw to the end zone out of concern for his extension in a detrimental way?

 

As a goal line guy Tim Tebow would probably hawk touchdowns away from Chad Henne or whichever QB was here. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though. It would take some shine off the guy's numbers which would help you keep from having his contract demands run wild.

As long as you as a team have the ability to evaluate the QBs you have on roster, you should be able to recognize that you have a star on your team even though he has an 88 QB Rating where he could have a 98 QB Rating if you'd let him stay on the field inside the 10 yard line and throw as many passes in that area as Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers typically do.

And besides, you're not going to have Tebow come in for EVERY play in that area. You want teams to prepare for different things in their game planning during the week. There are things Tebow does well down there, and there are things that your regular QB will do well down there, and you want the other team to prepare for both.

I would look at Tebow no differently than you'd look at your own tailbacks and running game, or like a LaDainian Tomlinson back in his heyday, someone like that. Back in his day, Tomlinson was money down on the goal line. He scored 30 TDs in a season back in 2006, running and passing, not even counting his receiving TDs. You think Phil Rivers was griping about that? Because of LaDainian Tomlinson's presence, Rivers could "only" get 22 passing TDs and a 92.0 QB Rating. In those Goal-to-Go situations, LaDainian got the call 40 times, turned it into 20 TDs running and passing. You know how many times Phil Rivers had his number called in those situations? Only 13 times. He produced 5 TDs. Michael Turner and the rest of the gang got the ball 5 times down there, produced 1 TD. So you're Phil Rivers and when you get into a Goal-to-Go situation, 80% the ball is going to someone other than you.

Would it really be that different with a Tebow here working goal line situations? No it wouldn't. But imagine how much less money LaDainian Tomlinson would have gotten if he only accounted for 13 TDs that year instead of 33 TDs. Imagine how much lower Phil Rivers' contract would be as a quarterback if he still only got the call on 20% of Goal-to-Go passes and was annually accounting for 20 to 25 touchdowns instead of 30 to 35 touchdowns.

I don't know if the Broncos really are making Tebow available, I just know I'd be after him if he was.

 

hold on to your panties ladies, it's going to be a long season