Ross to Sparano: Open up the offense

One great advantage in Florida as the Miami Dolphins, that other teams don’t have, and that’s we have the weather in August, September and October

Then how about we actually play 1 PM games at home when its hotter than the 7th Circle of Hell?

When I read the opening article that was used for the first post in this thread, all I could think about was Vince Young. He is exciting to watch and brings excitement to the team. I am not saying it is good or bad, its just seems to fit what Ross wants.

"ATLFINFAN wrote:

Just because you want it to be, doesnt make it true. I have watched Henne miss pass after pass down the field. We have seen him check down on the last play of the game multiple times and watch the clock run out because he refuses to take a chance, WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE, and just wing it down field to let his WR make a play. He would rather get the completion than the win, it seems. If you are already behind, with 10 seconds left on the clock and 3rd and 10, THAT IS NOT THE TIME TO PLAY IT SAFE. You are already losing. Its make or break time. LET IT GO. Grow some and make it happen. Thats what WINNERS DO. Which explains a lot. You cant teach Heart and you cant teach Touch. He has neither.

I have also seen him make incredible passes after incredible passes. I have seen him get put in awful situations. I bring up this example again: 3rd and 14 against the Patriots, Dan Henning calls a pass play with a 2 WR and 2 TE set. He keeps both TEs in to block, sends Ronnie Brown on a 1 yard down and out, with Davone Bess and Brandon Marshall as the only two players running to the sticks. Henne throws a pick to Devin McCourty. What else could Henne have done on that play? Bess was triple covered and Marshall was double covered. I also watched our offensive line go down one by one, throughout the season. Oh and I also watched our run game get dismantled every single game, averaging a grand total of 3.8 yards per carry throughout the season. I watched Brian Hartline get placed on IR in week 11, leaving our WR corps with Marlon Moore and Roberto Wallace after Marshall/Bess (Oh btw, Moore and Wallace combined for more drops this season than actual catches). I also watched our coaches pull Henne off the field and out of his rhythm to run a stupid, gimmick wildcat.

You could go either way. I would honestly like to find an available QB in the world that could have put up with the amount of issues Henne had to deal with all season long.

"Ricky'sBong wrote:

that Chiefs team was going nowhere, and they could run on anybody. i get your point, but then get some explosive playmakers in the passing game that can turn short passes into long ones making your mediocre qb look better.

ive always said the problem was lack of personnel on offense. we need two offensive linemen, one gamebreaker RB, one top 15 QB (Maybe Henne turns into one maybe not), one seam busting TE and one WR who can run a sub 4.4. I dont expect to get all of those positions but if we get half we will be in the playoffs and it doesnt matter which half we get

"ATLFINFAN wrote:

When I read the opening article that was used for the first post in this thread, all I could think about was Vince Young. He is exciting to watch and brings excitement to the team. I am not saying it is good or bad, its just seems to fit what Ross wants.

If you can't play for Fisher, you're not a legitimate football player. No ifs ands or buts.

We play in the most humid environment in the NFL. There's no excuse for not using that to our advantage. I agree with Ross here.

I've been saying for a while that Henne is a different QB when the tempo is picked up and he can get into a rhythm. He can play pitch and catch all day long with quality receivers in 3+ receiver sets and appropriate play-calling. Spread out the field and we'll see Chad playing to his strength..... or just rewatch the Michigan-UF game if anyone needs a reminder.

"finsbuck719 wrote:

Uhh...Yes I do. Sam Bradford averaged 37 pass attempts per game, Matt Ryan averaged close to 36 attempts per game, Flacco averaged over 30 a game, and even though Cassel had less attempts, they were still a spread type offense, with Charles, McCluster, Bowe, and Moeaki. These teams are very spread out and open.

Chad Henne would succeed much more in a pass first offense, in shotgun a lot, with weapons around him than he would in our current system.

first off chad henne averaged more pass attempts then Flacco. and calling these teams spread offenses is like calling Miami's a spread offense because we ran 3 and 4 WR sets on occasion. Flacco's 30 pass attempts per game put him at 25th in the NFL. The Ravens were ranked 6th in rushing attempts. the falcons ranked 5th in rush attpts/8th in pass attempts. that mularkey offense is based off establishing the run first and foremost. now if people will crowd the box, they will throw. the ideal you always strive for is 50/50. the falcons have gotten good enough that they can achieve that basically. i think it comes down to 32 runs vs 36 pass but its all based off turner. that offense would fall apart if they got into a pass heavy offense where the breakdown was 60/40 like the colts who had a 25 rush/ 42 pass ratio

I'd like to see DJ Williams, Jerrel Jernigan, Greg Little, and Jordan Todman in here next year. They would definitely help open things up and compliment who we currently have.

"ToddsPhins wrote:

We play in the most humid environment in the NFL. There's no excuse for not using that to our advantage. I agree with Ross here.

I've been saying for a while that Henne is a different QB when the tempo is picked up and he can get into a rhythm. He can play pitch and catch all day long with quality receivers in 3+ receiver sets and a good play-calling. Spread out the field and we'll see Chad playing to his strength..... or just rewatch the Michigan-UF game if anyone needs a reminder.

yeah all our games should be at 1pm and at the beginning of the season. If Ross wants to be a help, petition the league to have our first eight games be home games next year and all of them start at 1pm :lol::shifty:

"adamprez2003 wrote:

yeah all our games should be at 1pm and at the beginning of the season. If Ross wants to be a help, petition the league to have our first eight games be home games next year and all of them start at 1pm :lol::shifty:

That's a very good idea AP. Do you think it'll work?

"ToddsPhins wrote:

That's a very good idea AP. Do you think it'll work?

absolutely and then we could have the second half to get used to playing in the cold

knowing ross he'll build a dome within five years to "enhance the fan experience" so it wont matter lol

"adamprez2003 wrote:

absolutely and then we could have the second half to get used to playing in the cold

knowing ross he'll build a dome within five years to "enhance the fan experience" so it wont matter lol

If we build the dome, does that mean we can switch all our home games to the final 8 and then turn up the heat in the dome while slamming it full of humidifiers?

"padre31 wrote:

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/01/10/dolphins-owner-stephen-ross-tells-tony-sparano-to-re-create-the-days-of-dan-marino/

Well now, I normally do not wish for ownership to speak, in this case I think Ross is correct.

I also believe that "if" Henne is to salvage his career in Miami, that would be about the only way he can do so, the drawback is the Qb in the no huddle typically takes one heck of a beating.

That is a good article, an oddity for Volin who is not one of my favorite go to sources.

They better get a couple of lineman and a stud running back. Otherwise no Qb is going to survive. Much less save or be able to resurrect any career..

"ToddsPhins wrote:

We play in the most humid environment in the NFL. There's no excuse for not using that to our advantage. I agree with Ross here.

I've been saying for a while that Henne is a different QB when the tempo is picked up and he can get into a rhythm. He can play pitch and catch all day long with quality receivers in 3+ receiver sets and appropriate play-calling. Spread out the field and we'll see Chad playing to his strength..... or just rewatch the Michigan-UF game if anyone needs a reminder.

I was saying OK to most of it. Not so much agreeing but saying it MIGHT help him. Until you mentioned the only big game he ever won in college. He went 1-7 in big games and you pick the one.

"Ozzy wrote:

They better get a couple of lineman and a stud running back. Otherwise no Qb is going to survive. Much less save or be able to resurrect any career..

agreed. the ravens or falcons should be our model unless we somehow land the next peyton in the draft

"adamprez2003 wrote:

agreed. the ravens or falcons should be our model unless we somehow land the next peyton in the draft

Yep! At least if they can run the ball well, and cannot get anyone better than Henne, the offense won't have to rely on him nearly as much as they tried this season.

"Ozzy wrote:

I was saying OK to most of it. Not so much agreeing but saying it MIGHT help him. Until you mentioned the only big game he ever won in college. He went 1-7 in big games and you pick the one.

Fine, then just pretend I didn't mention it. lol. Didn't Michigan decide to open it up more in the UF game? I forget.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

agreed. the ravens or falcons should be our model unless we somehow land the next peyton in the draft

You just wanna see Matt Ryan in a wig, high heels, and a garter. :tongue2:

"Ozzy wrote:

Yep! At least if they can run the ball well, and cannot get anyone better than Henne, the offense won't have to rely on him nearly as much as they tried this season.

been saying that all season, the best way to develop a young QB is with a strong running game. flacco, ryan and sanchez have that. and i think henne would be in a much better place confidence wise if we didnt have to put the game in his hands asa often as we did

"ToddsPhins wrote:

You just wanna see Matt Ryan in a wig, high heels, and a garter. :tongue2:

shows how little you know. i already have :tongue2:

"ToddsPhins wrote:

Fine, then just pretend I didn't mention it. lol. Didn't Michigan decide to open it up more in the UF game? I forget.

Not trying kill it. Henne had a good game but he did almost lose it with his second int that ended up putting Florida ahead 35-31 nearing the end of the game. To his credit, Henne came right back and drove them to a TD which put them back in the lead. That TD was a great one handed 17 yard strike to Manningham, who along with Arrington, had Monster games.

Interceptions have always been a problem with Henne. Inopportune Int's more than just Int's. Get him to stop throwing them on the regular and ya might have a Qb but as we've seen, that's easier said than done. An offense set up for his strengths will absolutely create some excitement but I'm afraid it will all go for not, at the most inopportune time.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

been saying that all season, the best way to develop a young QB is with a strong running game. flacco, ryan and sanchez have that. and i think henne would be in a much better place confidence wise if we didnt have to put the game in his hands asa often as we did

Me being a run the ball well, run the ball often type of fan, I've surely said and agreed all year...

While i dont completely disagree with Ross, the lack of a solid running game this year completely ruined our offensive production. That NEEDS to be addressed.

"padre31 wrote:

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/01/10/dolphins-owner-stephen-ross-tells-tony-sparano-to-re-create-the-days-of-dan-marino/

Well now, I normally do not wish for ownership to speak, in this case I think Ross is correct.

I also believe that "if" Henne is to salvage his career in Miami, that would be about the only way he can do so, the drawback is the Qb in the no huddle typically takes one heck of a beating.

That is a good article, an oddity for Volin who is not one of my favorite go to sources.

**** it....................Ross wants to open it up...........

open up your wallet..........100 million for Brady and we give them Wake and our first round pick

"BicketyBam wrote:

And before I get jumped, I think what I said is true of almost all owners. Hire a good GM an coaching staff and let them put it together.

Why I agree to open up the offence the owner is asking a conservative tony sparno to turn into mike martz.You can't place a square peg in a round hole.If this is what he wants he should have hired a new head coach to implement this aggresive approach.
I have a bad feeling this guy is going to be another jerry jones,daniel snyder type.