Ronnie Brown, 19th best runningback in the NFL according to ESPN

I stopped reading right after I saw Lynch at #10

 

I know that I explained this to you over on your site.

 

And like I said back then, its all well and good but he isn't given the ball 300+ times because HE CANNOT HANDLE THE LOAD. He couldn't and didn't do it at Auburn, couldn't beat out Cadilliac, and obviously the coaching staffs that have coached him havn't believed in him to do it yet.

Adrian Peterson has proved time and time again that when you give him the ball, he's going to run you over. Sure Peterson has had more injuries, but he's more dynamic and a much better running back when healthy. There is no dispute that they both have had injury problems, but Peterson can handle the load and Brown cannot.

As a poster said before, you cannot judge him until he can show he can handle the load. You can speculate all you want on how good you want Ronnie to be L2G, but until he has more than 1,008 yards rushing in the season it is exactly that: Speculation. Lets see him do it on the field first. Adrian Peterson in his first NFL season outplayed Ronnie Brown in any of his previous three.

They are nowhere near the same catagory and putting Brown in the Top 5 without doing anything is just being blinded by the Aqua Marine and Orange glasses that I didn't think that you wore. Then again, often times fans do wear those kind of glasses for their favorite player, even if he hasn't produced like they expected him to.

He's 26 years old and coming off a major leg injury. Ronnie's time may never come.

 

Again bro, Ronnie has had to deal with sharing carries, a couple of freak injuries, poor OL and surrounding cast and having his team abandon the running game when down, when given the chance he has shown us what he is capable of. Remember, he may not be elite yet, but he definitely has the ability to be Top 3 if he can stay healthy and is utilized properly.

This list by ESPN is absolutely moronic

 

A couple of freak injuries? You get on Adrian Peterson for his injuries, but his injuries, especially the one in his senior season, were more freaky (weird, haha) than Browns. I mean, how many times do you see a broken collerbone happen on a dive into the endzone? I can't recall a time.

I have agrees that the ESPN list is moronic. I'd put Ronnie probably in the Top 12, possibly the Top 10. He has the talent to become something special, but he hasn't shown it yet and is now coming off a serious leg injury, the worst spot possible for a running back to have an injury. He has the talent to become Top 5, but not Top 3. Not with Tomlinson, Jackson, Johnson and Peterson in the league.

 

Nonsense, he hasn't been given the ball 300+ because he was sharing time with Ricky, sharing time with Chatman (a favorite of Camerons) and poor playcalling (abandoning the run). Once Ronnie was getting the ball 20+ times a game he was producing like the Top RB's in the game. The Auburn argument is silly, they run a 2 RB system and both RB got the carries.

The point being made was that if Ronnie's injuries were going to be used against him that Peterson's injury history should be taken into account as well. If it devalues Ronnie (although I'm not sure why it would seeing that they were freak injuries that could happen to anyone at anytime), then they should also devalue Peterson who has a much longer history of injuries and missed time.

Well again, fact is once he was getting the ball like the top RB's in the game he was producing like one of the top RB's in the game. That isn't speculation by any means, it's a fact. Also his surrounding cast was better last year on the OL (although they took a step back in the 2nd half of the year), good OL means good blocking which is something that Ronnie really didn't have in his first 2 years. I could use the Shaun Alexander example about how important a good OL is in relation to productivity, he lost Hutchinson and ended up looking human again.

Bro, my opinion hasn't changed one bit from the time that I posted at JN with FFIC. If you didn't think that I wore homer glasses then and my opinion hasn't changed, why do you feel differently now?

 

I'm not trying to make excuses and make Peterson seem injury prone, just pointing out that he suffered his share of injuries as well. If people want to put Ronnie in the "Can't play a whole 16 game season, so he's a bust" category, I'm going to point out other examples.......not to take anything away from those players, just to show that what's good for one player is good for another.

I think Brown can become Top 3 in the mold of a Jackson. We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

He may have been playing like a Top 5 back last year, but he only did it for a limited amount of games and a limited amount of touches. Anyone can put together a nice streak, but it is about being consistent. Maybe in year three Ronnie was finally breaking out and finally showing your fanbase and others that he was worth the 2nd overall pick, but in the end he got injuried and has failed to prove that he was worth that selection. He still has not had a rushing season over 1,008 yards. 1,008 yards is nothing. Thomas Jones, albeit on more carries, ran for 1,119 yards last season behind two Offensive lineman no longer in the league not because of age, but because they're that terrible.

Sure he shared carries with Ricky in his rookie season and Chatman last season, but what about the year before that? 2006? That was his best season, but he still couldn't muster more than 1,006 yards.

Again, I'm not saying he is a bad back, not at all man, I'm saying he could be Top 5 if he reaches his potential, but people saying he is there already or will be there after this season, in my mind, are nuts. I know you're all Miami fans here and want to see this happen, but he hasn't proved it yet and he's coming off a major leg injury. He could possibly never be the same back again. Time will tell, but he isn't there yet and I still don't think he could be Top 3. Top 5 yes, Top 3 no. Not with the backs that in the league now.

Brown has to prove it before he gets the respect outside of the Miami organization and its fans. Remember, before 2006, 2007, people thought of Brown as a Top 10 back. The injury and the lack of production in his first three seasons has hurt him.

And back to the sharing of the carries. Its gotten to a point with me where I'm sick of that argument. If Brown wanted it that badly he could go to the coach and tell him to give him the ball. Go to the Offensive Coordinator. If they don't listen, he could go to management. You think Wayne and Co. up there are going to want their 2nd overall pick unhappy? You don't think they want him to have the ball as much as possible. Maybe Ronnie just doesn't want it as much as you think.

Like you said, we'll have to agree to disagree. Its no secret I've always been a basher of Brown, dating back to his Auburn days, not that you'd know that as I don't think you posted back on JI as late as 2004, 2005. Just calling it like I see 'em so far in his career.