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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    Fitzpatrick had the 5th most rushing yards in a single season by a QB in Dolphins history, btw. And at 37, he was the only Dolphins QB over 31 to ever run for more than 108 yards.

    Even though he's only played one season with the Fins and was 37 years old, he's also 5th all time among Fins QBs in rushing yards.

    So he's fairly mobile.
     
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  2. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Tua is very mobile. He just isn't as mobile as he thinks he is and that's when he seems to get injured.
     
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  3. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Rosen Staff Member Club Member

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    Hopefully the line will protect him so well that he'll run as often as Marino did.
     
  4. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    LOL, if you watched last season (which I know you did), Fitz would have the pocket collapse and he'd trudge forward for as much as the other team would give him. There weren't any LB's staying home to stop the great one from scrambling, so he often picked up 7-10 yards uncontested in the ugliest of fashions.

    I'm not knocking Fitz at all...he's an amazing guy for everything he's done for this organization (and continues to do)...but a runner he's not. Him leading the team in rushing is a testament to our offense as a whole and our lack of commitment to the run game; mainly because we couldn't pass block.

    The 5th in a season doesn't impress me much, but 5th all-time in rushing yards is kind of surprising. I mean, we did have Marino for a big stretch and he was actually fined when he ran without permission, and it's pretty obvious that Tannehill should be #1 on that list (or Griese...thinking RT would have more but I couldn't find that exact stat online). Who else was there to round out that top 4 since we had so much QB turnover after Marino? Maybe Fiedler due to the # of games he played?

    The thing is, Griese and Marino started pretty much all but three years from 1967 to 1999. So it has to be RT, Griese and Fiedler...but I can't guess #4. Maybe Henne? Or Woodley? Heck, could it be Marino from all those seasons?
     
  5. Unlucky 13

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    Well, I don't want quarterbacks running unless its a situation where the field is wide open and they can run for the first down and then get out of bounds anyways. If the QB is the one with the ball instead of the receivers or backs, then I generally see it as something having gone wrong and the offense failing on that play.
     
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  6. Tin Indian

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    Have to be Tannehill at #1. The guy can actually run pretty well. Griese would most likely be #2 but I don't recall him running very much either. I couldn't even venture a guess on the rest. Marino's real skill like that was his uncanny ability to slide away from pressure. I remember seeing one of those 10 Best whatevers on the NFL Network and the one on mobile Qb's had Marino like 9 or 10. The reasoning was his ability to move in the pocket.
     
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  7. Unlucky 13

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    1. Tannehill: 1210 yards, 6 TDs
    2. Bob Griese: 994 yards, 7 TDs
    3. Jay Fiedler: 884 yards, 11 TDs
    4. David Woodley: 771 yards, 9 TDs
    5. Ryan Fitzpatrick: 243 yards, 4 TDs
    6. Chad Henne: 196 yards, 2 TDs
    7. Ray Lucas: 132 yards, 3 TDs
    8. Damon Huard: 124 yards, 0 TDs
    9. Earl Morrall: 120 yards, 1 TD
    10. Cleo Lemon: 109 yards, 4 TDs

    Marino had 87 yards on 301 carries, for a 0.3 average, and scored 9 touchdowns. His career long was a run of 15 yards his rookie season. He actually had a career total of -18 yards heading into the 1990 season, then ran for 127 yards over the next three seasons. In 1992, the last time the Fins went to the AFC CC, he had a career high of 66 yards, and averaged 3.3 YPC. He actually ran for 10+ yards in five out of six games in one stretch that year. After his injury in 93, he mostly had negative totals naturally.
     
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  8. cbrad

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    That's career for Miami. For single season:

    1. Fiedler 2001 - 321 rushing yards
    2. Tannehill 2014 - 311 rushing yards
    3. Woodley 1981 - 272 rushing yards
    4. Fiedler 2000 - 267 rushing yards
    5. Fitzpatrick 2019 - 243 rushing yards
     
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  9. Unlucky 13

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    Sorry, misunderstood the question. But again, i'd be delighted if Tua never breaks 50 yards.
     
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  10. cbrad

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    lol.. Oh c'mon, Tua's a Dolphin now. You'll come to like him! (waving hand like a Jedi..)
     
  11. KeyFin

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    I think he means that he'd prefer Tua to sit in the pocket with a Marino or Philbin/RT-like rule that says, "Don't ever, ever...EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER run the football! If running is the only option, then throw the darn thing away!"
     
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  12. cbrad

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    I know that. But we both know that Tua's style is not to sit back and never ever run. Quite the opposite. Tua is going to show you pocket awareness like we haven't seen in a long time, and that comes with the threat of the run (and actually running it).

    In fact I'll predict it now: he'll top the single season rushing yards list within his first 3 years starting.
     
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    Thanks for that...I couldn't find it. Pretty hysterical that he had negative rushing yards after 7+ seasons! I was thinking he could have surpassed Fitz's 243 yards by making one-yard gains 244+ times, LOL. He wasn't even close!
     
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  14. KeyFin

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    On one hand, 321 yards isn't earth-shattering...that's just a hair over 20 yards per game. It kind of shocks me Tannehill didn't have more than that since I can remember several longer sprints for decent yardage; I guess it wasn't consistent though.

    But I'm also expecting that they'll try to limit Tua running as much as possible this year, so you'd have two seasons to see him top the 321. I'd tend to agree with you that it's a decent possibility...but I'm going to be holding my breath for every single yard.
     
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    I actually think they'll emphasize the dual threat. The future belongs to the dual threat QB, even if they're still QB's first (except maybe Jackson lol). The great pocket passers are either retired or nearing retirement and the game (and interpretation of rules) will start to naturally favor the dual threat QB.

    So I think Tua's going to shatter that 321, which as you point out is not much in today's game. He'll shatter it because I think the coaching staff realizes that in today's game you NEED a dual threat QB, and you need to emphasize it in the game plan. We'll see. Anyway, I for one will be very excited about it, though I fully understand the durability concerns that come with it.
     
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  16. AGuyNamedAlex

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    I dont think Tua is ever going to be a QB that runs for yards. He will get his spots here and there, but his mobility is more pocket mobility than rushing.
     
  17. Unlucky 13

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    I accept that the team has chosen him to be the QB, and there's nothing that we can do about it. It is what it is. But regardless of who the QB is for the team, I want him to be protected by an iron wall of an OL up front, and to run an offense that allows him to make quick reads and fire the ball to the open man, or otherwise throw it away. Don't get hit more than you have to, and don't try to make something out of nothing or play hero ball. Be smart, and live (both figuratively and literally) to see another play/game.
     
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  18. Irishman

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    No matter how bad you think he was as a QB, the cowboys disagree and in this case, they are right.
     
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    I feel COVID-19 favors teams with an established OL, DL and stability in their coaching staff.
     
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  20. Tin Indian

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    In 14 seasons he was 2-4 in the playoffs. With the teams he had at his disposal.

    The Cowboys can have him.
     
  21. Unlucky 13

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    Players don't win games, teams do.
     
  22. Tin Indian

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    While I do agree with that statement it does not change that I saw him fold like a lawn chair more often than not in big games or moments.
     
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