Right Guard, Right Tackle, or Left Tackle: Which Is Top Priority?

I don't understand why LG is not on that list. You're insinuating that Incognito is any good.

We are a dominant Oline away from getting deep into the playoffs. Yes we lack depth at other areas.. But Oline has to be a focus

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Serious question.. How good are we with the Patriots Oline?

From what I have seen out of Tannehill.. I think he has top 5 QB stats behind Brady's line

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"vt_dolfan wrote:

Serious question.. How good are we with the Patriots Oline?

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Do we get their officials too?

LOL.. No sh##.. Man they get away with holds. Is it me.. Or does our defense get held with no calls more then I have ever seen

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"Section126 wrote:

Do we get their officials too?

Nice!

It's like the Crimson Tide and SEC officials.

"Section126 wrote:

Do we get their officials too?

Sebastian Vollmer is still a pretty good RT.

Left tackle should be the Dolphins' highest priority because by fixing that position you can potentially go two-for-one, fixing both tackle positions on a longer term basis.

If you focus on fixing just the right tackle position then you're left with a persisting question mark at left tackle. I think there's less of a question mark if Martin moves to right tackle.

And Levi Brown is being traded to the Steelers.

Very interesting.

Levi Brown has not been performing well though. But then, nor has Mike Adams. It's an interesting trade.

I really would have liked to see Miami get involved in the Eugene Monroe trade.

"Bpk wrote:

If we head into the offseason with our current O-line problems, which position would you put the most resources into fixing (resources mean a combination of FA money and/or a top draft pick):

Right Guard

Right Tackle

Left Tackle

?

The priority is hiring a GM who actually knows how to draft quality offensive linemen, secondary players and linebackers. These are the three weaknesses this team and Ireland hasn't shown the ability to upgrade these positions since he has been the teams GM.

In fact by signing Ellerbe and Wheeler, it appears he actually downgraded this unit from Dansby and Burnett.

The secondary and the OL have been major areas of concern for years and Ireland doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to fix these units.

One last comment regarding the recent draft. Ireland traded up and gave away a second round pick to take Jordan with the third pick in the draft. The coaches don't want to play Jordan on early downs because they don't have faith in his ability against the run. He has also been very ordinary when he comes in on passing downs. I just don't see him being an impact player for the Dolphins this year and I have a huge question regarding his long term ability as an impact player in the future. You just can't fail on the #3 pick in the draft, especially when it cost you your own first round pick and an additional second round selection.

"jw3102 wrote:

The priority is hiring a GM who actually knows how to draft quality offensive linemen, secondary players and linebackers. These are the three weaknesses this team and Ireland hasn't shown the ability to upgrade these positions since he has been the teams GM.

In fact by signing Ellerbe and Wheeler, it appears he actually downgraded this unit from Dansby and Burnett.

The secondary and the OL have been major areas of concern for years and Ireland doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to fix these units.

One last comment regarding the recent draft. Ireland traded up and gave away a second round pick to take Jordan with the third pick in the draft. The coaches don't want to play Jordan on early downs because they don't have faith in his ability against the run. He has also been very ordinary when he comes in on passing downs. I just don't see him being an impact player for the Dolphins this year and I have a huge question regarding his long term ability as an impact player in the future. You just can't fail on the #3 pick in the draft, especially when it cost you your own first round pick and an additional second round selection.

Your analysis is a bit premature I believe for a 3 and 1 team..

Linebackers I disagree with.

Secondary has two rookies stating to get reps, there's no room in your conviction for letting them show you what kind of players they are on a pro field...none...

Same thing with Dion Jordan..

Wish you would stop talking sh&$ about players that are starting to get their reps now....so sorry they didn't start out as starters come the beginning of the year, maybe then your analysis would carry some substance.

"jw3102 wrote:

The priority is hiring a GM who actually knows how to draft quality offensive linemen, secondary players and linebackers. These are the three weaknesses this team and Ireland hasn't shown the ability to upgrade these positions since he has been the teams GM.

In fact by signing Ellerbe and Wheeler, it appears he actually downgraded this unit from Dansby and Burnett.

The secondary and the OL have been major areas of concern for years and Ireland doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to fix these units.

One last comment regarding the recent draft. Ireland traded up and gave away a second round pick to take Jordan with the third pick in the draft. The coaches don't want to play Jordan on early downs because they don't have faith in his ability against the run. He has also been very ordinary when he comes in on passing downs. I just don't see him being an impact player for the Dolphins this year and I have a huge question regarding his long term ability as an impact player in the future. You just can't fail on the #3 pick in the draft, especially when it cost you your own first round pick and an additional second round selection.

This entire post is ridiculous.

Its pretty obvious that there is some sort of problem in our decision making process concerning Offensive linemen. Are there offensive linemen we should have signed and we didn't? Are there offensive linemen we signed that we shouldn't have? It seems like with our offensive line struggles is more than likely a combination of both. Tannehill is struggling and a lot has been said about his pocket awareness or pocket presence. He is still a young quarterback learning to play a position with limited starts but he is going to get killed behind our offensive line. Its hard to have a pocket awareness if your pocket is collapsing all around you. He doesn't have much time to go through his progressions and if his first choice is not open he doesn't have much time to look for other options. Who is coaching our offensive line? Is it Philbin?

Ireland really needs to get on the phone... I would have given up a second rounder for Monroe.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I don't understand why LG is not on that list. You're insinuating that Incognito is any good.

Yes.

I'm actually openly stating he's good.

Not great.

Pouncey is great.

All the others are struggling.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

I don't understand why LG is not on that list. You're insinuating that Incognito is any good.

He is our 2nd best OL by a pretty wide margin. He'd start for most teams in the league.

"Paul 13 wrote:

And Levi Brown is being traded to the Steelers.

He is one of the worst pass blocking LTs in the league. Wonder who the Cards plan to replace him with, Nate Potter?

"ckparrothead wrote:

Very interesting.

Levi Brown has not been performing well though. But then, nor has Mike Adams. It's an interesting trade.

I really would have liked to see Miami get involved in the Eugene Monroe trade.

I'd rather have Adams than Brown. Adams still has some upside. Brown has never been a good LT and at this point likely never will be.

Going back to this debate...to me the real question is more whether we should focus on a rookie or a veteran.

For example, we know two things about LT Branden Albert:

1. The Dolphins had some interest in him
2. The Chiefs will not be retaining him

That puts him square in the sights, doesn't it?

He's performing fairly well. He's let up only 1 sack and his Pass Block Efficiency is 12th best amongst offensive tackles. He's not a young man, he'll turn 30 years old late in the 2014 season, but he's not an old man either.

The big question I think a lot of folks had on him when the Dolphins were looking at trading for him was whether he can stay healthy. Thus far he has.

If you grab him and move Jonathan Martin to right tackle, do you knock out two birds with one stone, while NOT having to wait for a rookie tackle to develop?

^^ Why would a 5-0 team, very likely playoff bound, trade their starting left tackle even if he may not be back next season? Albert may have been square in the sites back during the off season, but things have changed a lot since then.

"MrClean wrote:

^^ Why would a 5-0 team, very likely playoff bound, trade their starting left tackle even if he may not be back next season? Albert may have been square in the sites back during the off season, but things have changed a lot since then.

I'm going to assume you're not replying to me.

"ckparrothead wrote:

I'm going to assume you're not replying to me.

Why?

"MrClean wrote:

Why?

Because I'm assuming you read my post and know that nowhere in it did I say anything about the Chiefs trading Branden Albert to us?

Mr C, I'm pretty sure CK is talking about next year...