Richmond Webb HOF Snub
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GARDENHEADsubscriberOPWith all the talk of Zach Thomas being snubbed, I think Richmond Webb is even MORE deserving. Ridiculous.
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moosegutsforum_veteranWhat? Zach at worst is the 3rd best MLB of his generation behind Lewis and Urlacher while Webb is behind Roaf, Ogden, Pace, Jones.
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GARDENHEADsubscriber"mooseguts wrote:
What? Zach at worst is the 3rd best MLB of his generation behind Lewis and Urlacher while Webb is behind Roaf, Ogden, Pace, Jones.
They both deserve enshrinement. Webb was more dominant at his position, a more valuable position as well.
And you’re totally wrong in your LT rankings. Also, Jonathan Ogden, Orlando Pace and Walter Jones are not Webb’s contemporaries. Those guys came into the league 8-10 years after Webb.
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moosegutsforum_veteran"GARDENHEAD wrote:
They both deserve enshrinement. Webb was more dominant at his position, a more valuable position as well.
And you’re totally wrong in your LT rankings. Also, Jonathan Ogden, Orlando Pace and Walter Jones are not Webb’s contemporaries. Those guys came into the league 8-10 years after Webb.
Personally I would take Ray Lewis over Jonathan Ogden if I had to pick one, I don't feel like have an All Pro LT is a top need in todays NFL, you can easily make due with an average LT.
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Webb suffers because he was seen as a better pass blocker than run blocker, plus Dan Marno’s quick release gets broughtup as an explanation for his pass blocking.
Clark Kentforum_veteran"mooseguts wrote:
What? Zach at worst is the 3rd best MLB of his generation behind Lewis and Urlacher while Webb is behind Roaf, Ogden, Pace, Jones.
Yup. And I don't think there is a strong case for Urlacher being ranked ahead of Thomas, especially since Zach has superior stats. In fact, Zach's stats are better than any LB in the HOF not named Ray Lewis. Crazy that BU gets in first ballot and Zach doesn't even make semi final list.
The_Dark_Knightforum_veteran"djphinfan wrote:
Really, more deserving then Zach, whys that?
If Richmond Webb was a "skill" position such as QB, RB, WR, CB etc...and was selected for 7 consecutive Pro Bowls, you really wouldn't be asking this question.
Of all of the GREATS to ever play the game, how many of them went to 7...SEVEN consecutive Pro Bowls?
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Unlucky 13subscriberWebb was very good. But not elite for a long time, and his career wasn't all that long compared to the all timers. He's well remembered by Dolphin fans, but I think his overall legacy is fair. There was just never a real chance of him getting into the hall
KeyFinforum_veteranThe simple fact is that everyone ignores linemen. On any given week, a fan could name the best 3 runs of the game....but maybe one in a thousand can tell you who sealed the lead block. That's just the way it is in football and the HOF is right to focus on the players that are remembered by the fans.
Now, I'm not saying that Webb doesn't belong in Canton. I'm simply saying that he understands that outside of his quarterbacks and running backs, he was never appreciated for his battles in the trenches.
Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.
GARDENHEADsubscriber"Unlucky 13 wrote:
Webb was very good. But not elite for a long time, and his career wasn't all that long compared to the all timers. He's well remembered by Dolphin fans, but I think his overall legacy is fair. There was just never a real chance of him getting into the hall
Not elite for a long time? He was All-Pro, first or second team from 1990-1995 (six years). A 7 time pro bowler. He made the all-decade team. I flatly disagee.
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Vinny Finsforum_veteranWebb and ZT should both be in, IMO.
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Webb and ZT should both be in, IMO.
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