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Rex Ryan - I am a better coach than I get credit for.

Discussion in 'AFC East Rivals' started by Tone_E, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Rex Ryan self proclaiming that he is a GREAT coach.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-ryan-im-a-better-coach-than-i-get-credit-for

    LOL. This guy is unreal. I don't need credit, but let me give myself some anyway.
     
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  2. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    He's just letting teams know that after he gets fired, he's good to go on to a new team. Classless fatass bastard.
     
  3. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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  4. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    That's still a awesome moment!
     
  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    He is a better coach then most think he is, his downfall is he prefers Vets to developing younger, cheaper players and it caught up with him.
     
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  6. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    I would agree he's a better DC than HC, but even when he was with Baltimore, he was loaded on talent on the D side.
     
  7. MikeHoncho

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  8. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    He's a good defensive strategist. He is a horrible coach. To be a good coach you need to be a good strategist, but also you need to be a good leader, teacher & manager. He is like his father, merely a good strategist.
     
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  9. Stringer Bell

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    Very good coach IMO.
     
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  10. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    What's funny is that Tony S has more division titles than fatass, as a head coach.
     
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  11. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Based on his teams underachieving? Or on the fact that his team is in constant undisciplined chaos? Or on the fact he's coaching for his job this year? Or that he's caused distraction at least once a year?
     
  12. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    And with a much less talented team.
     
  13. Stringer Bell

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    I don't agree they underachieved. He hasn't really had much talent. He's been stuck with bad QBs, but still has managed to make the playoffs.

    Ryan has been put in a pretty bad situation. They mortgaged their future to load up on average players, so they could sell their moron fans overpriced PSLs. The teams he took to the playoffs didn't have great talent, and the past two years he's had probably the worst talent in the league. The only redeeming player the Jets have had has been Revis.
     
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  14. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Didn't he pick his QB?
    Didn't he pick most of his core players?

    Yet, TS won a division with a Irish picking the players.
     
  15. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Coaching isn't only about performance. Look at how the players were anonymously throwing each other under the bus last season, look at his demeanor in the media, or his inability to control his team over the last few years. He just isn't a good HC in my opinion. Maybe a great DC, but not HC. In time, player's coaches get taken advantage of, and that what I think you are seeing in the latter half of his tenure.
     
  16. cdz12250

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    Oh Rexy, I love you! When are you going to learn that he who exalts himself shall be humbled, and he who humbles himself shall be exalted?
     
  17. Jt0323

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    Amazing defensive mind, and a great Defensive coach, a head coach? not so much. He neglects the offense.
     
  18. Fin D

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    Getting to the AFC Championship 2 times in a row and no further is underachieving, especially when you factor in they didn't win the division either time. If you do it once it means you overachieved. If you do it 2 years in a row, it proves you were good enough to go further, but you failed.

    Rex didn't develop any talent. Rex didn't keep control of the locker room. Rex didn't even really try to do anything with his offense or QB. Rex caused more PR headaches than a lot the players he had, which is saying quite a bit. I'd take him as an DC at most, but he's not my first choice.
     
  19. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Plus didn't he make a few comments this offseason about wanting to be fired?
     
  20. Sethdaddy8

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    I love to hate this guy. He is the perfect Jet head coach. I hope he finds a way to stay there in 2014.
     
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  21. padre31

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    We'll see, his Defense is not as talented this year, and his Qb/Rb situation is a mess.

    Do they still have the same ST Coach, our fmr ST coordinator?

    I'd heard he was retiring.
     
  22. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    I think Westhoff (sp) did retire, but not 100% sure. I'm 100% that Rex will be getting fired after this season.
     
  23. Fin-Omenal

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    So many great coordinators go on to fail as Head coaches because they can't handle the diversity of the job.

    A good example is Wade Phillips, horrible head coach in Dallas...gets fired....goes back to being a DC in Houston and turns them into a top teir defense basically overnight. Norv Turner?? A mess of a HC but watch how much better he makes Cleveland's offense.

    I'm sure Rex will go somewhere next year and help someone's team tremendously, but it sure as hell won't be as a HC.
     
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  24. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Rex won't be their coach in 2014. You think the Jets new GM wants him, I really doubt it. I think the only reason he wasn't fired this offseason is because he still has 2 years left on his contract. IMO
     
  25. padre31

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    Compare the Jest situation at Wr to ours, it was similar, we traded for Marshall, they traded for Holmes.

    BUT, Bess also developed here, as did Hartline, they have developed..no one.

    To double down on that, they are now looking at Kellen Winslow.

    This was the core problem for Ryan, he's used to working w/Vets who know what they need to do and what their job is, no teaching required. Now pretty much everyone on offense is gone who was good, the whiffed on Shonn Greene.

    I like Pierre Thomas's game but it's more of "Jest gonna Jest", in a salary cap league you have to develop your own talent.
     
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  26. padre31

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    Unless it is 3-13, which it probably won't be, he'll keep his job.

    They stuck with Tannenbaum for a long time, the GM won't feel the heat to can him unless they just crater, but irrc they did lose their DefCord as well, meaning two of the areas they had success ST and DC..are now changed over, that can work out badly.
     
  27. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Well see if Rex keeps his job after this season. After two poor seasons, 2013 maybe a bad season for them, I can see the GM bringing in his own guys. I just don't believe Rex will be a Jet after this season.
    But it's only my opinion.
     
  28. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    No, it isn't.

    No, it doesn't.
     
  29. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Jeremy Kerley
     
  30. Fin D

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    Yes it is.

    Yes it does.
     
  31. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Westhoff did retire. Their new ST Coordinator is Ben Kotwica, their former asst ST Coach. He's a nobody, but when he got here, Darren Rizzi was a nobody too.
     
  32. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Why? Because you say so?
     
  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Not that I heard, but I may have missed them.
     
  34. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Why not? Because you say so?
     
  35. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    You made the assertion with nothing to support it.
     
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  36. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I give Rexxy credit for this as well:

    He "gets" how to beat New England, you have to not only change things up, you also have to be more aggressive and just hit them harder then they hit you.

    Problem is, his Vet talent is now so diluted it will no longer work.
     
  37. GreysonWinfield

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    He's his dad revisited except he won some playoff games.
     
  38. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Do we know how much say so he had in drafting and free agency? He seems to make do best he can with what's given him.
    He has some good young vets and rookies now too though. Wilkerson, Ellis and Richardson should be a good DL. Coples has ability. They still have David Harris. Milliner should be fine replacing Revis.
     
  39. Fin D

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    I gave a reasoning. You did not give any reasoning for your disagreement. You still haven't. Do I need to make the "for" and the "against" arguments?
     
  40. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    I know he loves his FB Conner.
     

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