Report: Jamar Taylor has kidney problems

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  1. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    I probably have kidney damage too after this past weekend and all the booze I poured down my throat.
     
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  2. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    This is no joke. 42% kidney function is not good at all.
     
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  3. MikeHoncho

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    Oh ****.
     
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  4. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    it's correctable to a degree if he changes his medication for the high blood pressure.
     
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  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Now that he is a millionaire he can get the real medication
     
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  6. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

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    Hopefully he does not have any problems with it that effect his career. Makes me wonder if the risk was minimal enough that we wouldn't have been better off taking Robert Alford, Dwayne Gratz, Leon McFadden, or Blidi Wreh-Wilson.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Nah, I'd take my chance on Taylor.
     
  8. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I hear ya, but playing it safe is exactly why we haven't won anything in a long time. I'm happy to see the team taking chances.
     
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  9. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lets call him 5'11 190-195.. 31 inches on the arm length, 35 inch vert so the kid can get up there, dude is very strong, and built like a tank..NFL body already..
     
  10. Limbo

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    I think it does help explain why Ireland traded up to get Will Davis once there was a little run on corners (people doubted this move, saying he panicked). Grimes and Taylor both with health concerns, gotta build some depth.
     
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  11. Justright

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    I think the story is wrong. I think the author is mixing up a couple of different things. High blood pressure itself will/can cause kidney damage... Not the medication and certainly not a medication that affects blacks more than whites. So, with that said I wouldn't take much from this article.

    It's possible he has high blood pressure, and it's possible that the high blood pressure may have affected his kidneys, however, he's so young I highly doubt he has 42% kidney function left due to high blood pressure.
     
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  12. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    damn that sounds like a big deal
     
  13. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    It would be one thing if I felt he was a great prospect to begin with. Then at least I've got my arms wrapped around the risk/reward. As things stand, the pick just gets all the more confusing for me. It's like they got drunk and made a mad dash up to the top for the player they love as the best defensive player in the draft...and then were left hung over, scrambling to pick up the broken pieces in the aftermath, trying to fit together a bunch of imperfect options to fill their needs at corner and tackle. At corner in particular they seem to be taking the shotgun approach between Jamar Taylor and Will Davis, and at tackle they're sifting through the garbage can for scraps.
     
  14. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I'm curious, how do you rate this draft, in terms of the individual picks and how they mesh with the needs of the team?

    Personally I'm not exactly thrilled with this draft, especially when I consider the gaping hole at OT that could have easily been filled.
     
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  15. Stringer Bell

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    I thought Taylor was a great pick. The medical issue gives me pause though.
     
  16. padre31

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    Yep, at some point you have to accept more risk to receive more return.

    SS24 was perfectly healthy, and started a lot of games for us..how many plays did he make in 4yrs?

    1, int to seal a win v Cinci yrs ago, otherwise very forgettable player

    Doesn't mean Taylor will be better, it does mean he has the potential to do more for us.
     
  17. slickj101

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    Giving up a 2nd to move up 9 spots in the 1st is a mad dash now? Winston and Albert are now scraps as well?

    Man, you sure seem to love putting a negative spin on everything.

    As long as Taylor's kidney issues are fixable (which it sounds like they are), then it's a non-issue.
     
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  18. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    There is not enough information in this article to make an assessment or even to get worried. Kidney issues are very manageable as long as the situation is not critical. He now has the means and resources to take very good care of himself, so without more information as to the extend of the issue, i'd say this is not cause to get overly concerned.
     
  19. JdReimon

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    Yeah the article was a little confusing but what i understood from his case was

    1. Hypertensive from a young age (Hypertension is more common in blacks btw)
    2. Self-Medicating with NSAID's (Non-steroidal anti inflammatory) which are Nephrotoxic not sure if he was using actual BP meds, because NSAID's are not Anti hypertensives
    3. When evaluated by the doctors at the combine they realized he had extensive Kidney dysfunction caused not only by his poorly managed hypertension but his indiscriminate use of NSAID's (42% at the time, basically this number is measured by the kidneys ability to filter a substance and relays to the physicians an approximation of the kidneys total function)
    4. Now is properly medicated, and that 42% should rise assuming there was not long term damage like scarring and fibrosis.

    Hope this helps, in no way am i saying this is what happened to Jamar Taylor.
    I'm just interpreting the article in my own way
     
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  20. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Actually, I think most folks around here think that playing safe is all we've done in the last few years...at least under Quitcellian Rule...
     
  21. ckparrothead

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    I can't give it any higher than a C. Whether it's a C- or a C+ probably depends on how some of these medical issures are coming out, especially with respect to Jamar Taylor and his failing kidneys and high blood pressure.
     
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  22. rafael

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    Based on the article, I don't see it as a big issue at least in terms of risk for Miami. He had no preexisting kidney condition so they seem to be operating fine other than whatever scar tissue was caused by the anti-inflammatories. If he never changed anything, .ie stayed on the anti-inflammatories then he could potentially cause enough damage to need a transplant in 10 years. Putting him on the a different medication should prevent any further damage and improve his eGFR. That correction will probably put off any kidney issues period or at worse be an issue 30-40 years down the line. I don't think there should be any kidney issues that would effect his play.
     
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  23. slickj101

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    Now his kidneys are failing? :lol:

    Evan Silva is that you?
     
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  24. Justright

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    That's why this article is so wrong. The writer is mixing everything up. Yes, blacks are more likely to have high BP. However, since he is so young I doubt he's suffered any long term effects. If he was using NSAIDs indiscriminately that will reduce kidney function (as will high BP) but it's typically reversible once the person stops using them.

    my bet is that he's fine and this is a non issue.
     
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  25. Justright

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    I'd bet that over half of all NFL players deal with high BP. And his kidneys will be fine. The hack who wrote the article is too stupid to understand what he was told or he's trying to sensationalize this.
     
  26. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Why we would ever pick another cornerback named Jamar, I will never know...
     
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  27. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    If only the dolphins were a professional football team with the an entire medical staff that could monitor this kind of thing and make it a non issue. Wait a minute...
     
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  28. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    42% kidney function is very dangerous.
     
  29. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    The hack that wrote this article is Barry Jackson who is probably the best and most respected sports writer in South Florida.
     
  30. ckparrothead

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    I hope you're right, of course. But if this really is a nothing issue then the theory that he "dropped" because of it is likely to be patently false.
     
  31. Justright

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    Not always... Is his acute or chronic?
     
  32. Justright

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    So? Maybe he should get his facts straight then.
     
  33. Justright

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    He could have dropped due to this and a lot of people overreacting due to their own ignorance or lack of research.
     
  34. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I was hoping for Blidi Wreh-Wilson this draft.

    That gaping hole at OT will be filled by this weekend I believe. And we may do it with the same thing we were doing it with before, a 2nd round pick for the same guy.
     
  35. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Wasn't Taylor projected as a late first round pick? Good value if you ask me. Especially considering this issue isn't as big of a deal as the article makes it out to be. This isn't Boise State, we have the resources to give him what he needs and monitor the situation.

    And LOL at medical risk. This is football, the sport itself is a medical risk. Players at all levels get hurt all the time. Some big and some small and some maybe more than others, but it's a violent game and injuries are the norm.
     
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  36. Da 'Fins

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    I really think this was the case with the Dallas Thomas selection - which, I think, will not turn out to be of much value relative to what they might have done to make the offense more explosive.
     
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  37. rafael

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    Personally, I had Taylor ranked as one of the top four CBs in this draft and third best for Miami in terms of fit. I felt there was a drop off in talent after those top 4. I don't see the kidney issue as a football problem. I think it could potentially be a Taylor problem some time long after he retires from playing. But even that may have been prevented by the change in medication. I do think teams/people are prone to panic when they see medical issues with scary and unfamiliar sounding terms. I think you see some of that in this thread.
     
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  38. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    I'll go ask Gregory House, M.D.
     
  39. Rocky Raccoon

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