Reasons for Parker's Improved Performance?

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GalantGalantforum_veteranOP
Dec 2, 2019, 10:37 AM

Safid reckons the top three reasons are:

Apparently he hasn't been tracking Tannehill this year.

What do you think guys, why is Parker starting to shine this year?


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Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 10:43 AM
"Galant wrote:

Safid reckons the top three reasons are:

Apparently he hasn't been tracking Tannehill this year.

What do you think guys, why is Parker starting to shine this year?

Staying healthy with improving route running.

Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain

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SilverphinSilverphinforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 AM

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Staying healthy with improving route running.

Nailed it.

Patster1969Patster1969subscriber
Dec 2, 2019, 10:49 AM

Probably a combination of all of them Galant.
* Travis said in training camp that he was looking much stronger than before, which has probably helped his health
* He has realised that he has been given another opportunity, so is more dedicated
* Fitz will give him every chance to beat the CB by putting the ball where only he can get it, whereas Tanny wouldn't really throw people open
* O'Shea is probably using him where he is most dangerous (notwithstanding that Gase had him as a healthy scratch for at least 5 games last year)

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 10:52 AM

He is just taking the opportunity that is dealt to him. I dont think he ever got a fair shot to be the premier guy... you cant keep talent on the bench, especially if theyre receivers or running backs. They usually begin to produce right out of college.

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 10:53 AM

Also remember all those times Adam Gase publically questioned DeVante Parker’s β€œtoughness”.. saying he needs to learn to play through injuries, almost implying he was soft. Yea what a great coach to play for!

the San Antonio Spurs did that to Kawhi Leonard and look at them now. Look at him now.

resnorresnorforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 10:53 AM

QBs need to trust their receivers if you want them to throw people open. I just think, generally speaking, Tannehill didn't trust his receivers. So he'd wait to make sure they were open before he'd throw it too often.

AGAGuyNamedAlexforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 12:37 PM

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Also remember all those times Adam Gase publically questioned DeVante Parker’s β€œtoughness”.. saying he needs to learn to play through injuries, almost implying he was soft. Yea what a great coach to play for!

the San Antonio Spurs did that to Kawhi Leonard and look at them now. Look at him now.

Especially when Parker himself, I think it was last year but maybe before, said he was healthy enough to play but he wasnt seeing the field.

It never sounded like he wasnt trying to tough it out honestly.

KeyFinKeyFinforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 12:45 PM

"resnor wrote:

QBs need to trust their receivers if you want them to throw people open. I just think, generally speaking, Tannehill didn't trust his receivers. So he'd wait to make sure they were open before he'd throw it too often.

To be fair, Parker wasn't "open" on any of his catches yesterday. He just flat-out beat the defender by high-pointing the pass and hauling it in.

Winning football games at any level comes down to winning in the trenches.

IrishmanIrishmanforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 01:00 PM

I suspect it is fundamentally due to two things:

1) Physicality - He seems to be healthier and have gotten stronger, or at least more physical with the defensive players.

2) Attitude - When there is a big shake up in a teams personnel, it is often a wake up call for the remaining players. They are more interested and re-focus or finally start to focus on improving themselves and their performance.

Of the two, I suspect his attitude has changed and the result is he is clearly more driven. Of course feeling better physically and getting physically stronger can help adjust your attitude in much the same way.

Only Parker knows for sure.

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 01:05 PM

He grew up.

IrishmanIrishmanforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 01:16 PM

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

He grew up.

That's sort of what I said; you were just a tad more succinct!

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Dec 2, 2019, 01:27 PM

Health is a factor. DeVante unfortunately dealt with injuries from landing hard after a catch in 2016, and being taken out by a blind side hit by a linebacker in 2017, and missed time with each.

But I believe that the biggest factor is the fact that Adam Gase's offense is garbage, and was stupidly using him the wrong way the majority of the time. Gase often had him running nothing but screen passes and deep bombs, when that simply isn't Parker's game. Sometimes they would have him just be a decoy, and throw the ball to someone else all game. Matt Moore in particular only had eyes for Kenny Stills.

This year, FINALLY, the coaching staff is featuring him on come backs, outs, drags and other medium yardage routes, and making him a regular part of the game plan every week. A what do you know? It works, like I've been saying that it would for four years.

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 01:30 PM

The Parker has shown this ability throughout his career.

I never understood why people acted like he was Kevin White or Brett Perriman type player.

He was always an obvious starter.

Saying that, yesterday was more attitude I have seen out of Parker. Even when he dominated the Patriots I don't remember him getting into cornerbacks faces.

Maybe he turned a corner on getting the fire it takes to be a number one.

Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain

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Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Dec 2, 2019, 01:35 PM

The other thing I failed to mention is that this coaching staff is using Parker's height and size to his advantage when he matches up against smaller or shorter DBs. Why Gase refused to do that was a bizarre mystery, but the current coaches apparently are brighter. They're doing it now with Gesicki too.

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 01:58 PM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

The other thing I failed to mention is that this coaching staff is using Parker's height and size to his advantage when he matches up against smaller or shorter DBs. Why Gase refused to do that was a bizarre mystery, but the current coaches apparently are brighter. They're doing it now with Gesicki too.

It is also a Fitzpatrick thing. He loves throwing it up to big recievers.

When it works he does great. When it doesn't he goes terrible

Holland is a huge upgrade over McCain

I want to be alive, I am alive! Alive, I tell you! Mother, I love you, those are no longer just words. I want to hold you, I want to run in a stream, I want to taste ice cream but not just put it in my mouth and let it slide down my throat but really eat it. - Robot Morty

DestroyerDestroyerforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 02:14 PM

I forget it was a 2 year deal. +1 Grier

The Dolphins are the softest team in the NFL. Tua hater starting 12/11/22.

texanphinatictexanphinaticforum_veteran
Dec 2, 2019, 02:26 PM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

The other thing I failed to mention is that this coaching staff is using Parker's height and size to his advantage when he matches up against smaller or shorter DBs. Why Gase refused to do that was a bizarre mystery, but the current coaches apparently are brighter. They're doing it now with Gesicki too.

Gase was a stubborn coach. I am still dumbfounded that the Jests snapped him up like he was the second coming of Belichick. How fun it has been seeing them get smoked by a pair of winless teams.

Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
Dec 2, 2019, 02:31 PM
"Galant wrote:

Safid reckons the top three reasons are:

Apparently he hasn't been tracking Tannehill this year.

What do you think guys, why is Parker starting to shine this year?

I don't know that its about Fitzpatrick being better than Tannehill, so much as it is about Fitzpatrick being more comfortable throwing to someone thats covered and expecting them to make a contested catch. Fitzpatrick really is a good fit for Parker's game. Tannehill isn't as comfortable/reckless throwing jump balls.

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Carmen CygniCarmen Cygniforum_veteran
Dec 3, 2019, 12:22 AM

Because the NFL is really hard and the adjustment is extremely difficult and filled with toil, even for the world's most talented athletes. Glad to see Parker kickin' some butt. Kudos.

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Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Dec 3, 2019, 06:56 AM

"Stringer Bell wrote:

I don't know that its about Fitzpatrick being better than Tannehill, so much as it is about Fitzpatrick being more comfortable throwing to someone thats covered and expecting them to make a contested catch. Fitzpatrick really is a good fit for Parker's game. Tannehill isn't as comfortable/reckless throwing jump balls.

I prefer the plays where they use Parker's height and size without it being a jump ball. Have him run 10-15 yards, turn around and box the defender out, Michael Irvin style. Over and over!

Phin McCoolPhin McCoolforum_veteran
Dec 5, 2019, 05:42 PM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

The other thing I failed to mention is that this coaching staff is using Parker's height and size to his advantage when he matches up against smaller or shorter DBs. Why Gase refused to do that was a bizarre mystery...


"Hmmm now, what was that thing that Peyton always used to say, how did it go.... if there's a short DB and a much taller WR, if you throw the ball to the receiver...er.. the DB will always catch it? Is that right? Yes that's it. I think. Or was it the other way round? Was it a small WR and a tall DB? And which one would catch it then? Doh, I can't remember. Better just hoy it downfield to Stills then just in case.."

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HOHoopsforum_veteran
Dec 5, 2019, 07:37 PM

Health and fitz willingness to throw the climb the ladder ball outside the numbers.

which is minus the quick slant on 3rd down where a lot of dvps production has come from this year.

mossing dbs.

AGAGuyNamedAlexforum_veteran
Dec 19, 2019, 08:42 AM

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

I prefer the plays where they use Parker's height and size without it being a jump ball. Have him run 10-15 yards, turn around and box the defender out, Michael Irvin style. Over and over!

Same. I also love routes like the slant and post where his long arms and height allow you a bigger window to just air it out or lead him farther in front.

Height is dangerous when paired with other skills.

Randy Moss probably wouldnt have been as deadly at 5'10 for example. It's one of the few positions I think "Prototypical size" actually impacts play. The lines would be the other positions.

CashvillesentCashvillesentforum_veteran
Dec 26, 2019, 01:13 PM

Dolphins GM has done a pretty good job bringing talent in, the issue has always been that he hasnt brought elite coaches to the team. The Gase hire is probably one of the worst hires since the Ken Whisenhunt era in Tennessee. Both lame dumb coaches.

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