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RealDriscoll's Mid-Season Mock 2 Rounds

Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by RealDriscoll, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. RealDriscoll

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    [Key Players Returning]

    *Sam Bradford-Quarterback-Oklahoma
    *Colt McCoy-Quarterback-Texas
    *Tim Tebow-Quarterback-Florida
    *Matthew Stafford-Quarterback-Georgia
    *Knowshon Moreno-Running Back- Georgia
    *LeSean McCoy-Running Back-Pittsburgh
    *Walter Thurmond-Cornerback-Oregon
    *Sean Lee-Outside Linebacker-Penn State
    *Trevard Lindley-Cornerback-Kentucky
    *Captain Munnerlyn-Cornerback-South Carolina
    * Jarius Byrd-Cornerback-Oregon
    *Mark Sanchez-Quarterback-USC
    * Nate Davis-Quarterback-Ball State
    *Max Hall-Quarterback-BYU
    * Matt Grothe-Quarterback-South Florida
    * Dan LeFevour-Quarterback-Central Michigan
    *CJ Spiller-Running Back-Clemson
    *Keiland Williams-Running Back-LSU
    * Harvey Unga-Running Back- BYU
    *Demarco Murray-Running Back-Oklahoma
    *Jeff Owens-Defensive Tackle-Georgia
    *Geno Atkins-Defensive Tackle-Georgia
    *Al Woods-Defensive Tackle-LSU
    *Ricky Jean Froncois-Defensive Line-LSU
    *Rico McCoy-Linebacker-Tennessee
    *Everette Brown-Defensive End-Florida State
    *Hakeem Nicks-Wide Receiver-North Carolina
    *Marvin Autin-Defensive Tackle-North Carolina
    *Adam Ultowski-Offensive Tackle-Texas
    *Terrence Cody-Defensive Tackle-Alabama
    * Percy Harvin-Wide Receiver-Florida
    *Myron Rolle-Safety-Florida State


    ROUND 1

    1. Lions: Andre Smith- Offensive Tackle-Alabama
    2. Bengals: Rey Maualuga-Inside Linebacker
    3. Chiefs: Malcolm Jenkins-Cornerback-Ohio State
    4. 49ers: Michael Crabtree-Wide Receiver-Texas Tech
    5. Raiders: Michael Johnson-Defensive End-Georgia Tech
    6. Seahawks: Michael Oher-Offensive Tackle-Ole Miss
    7. Rams: Eugene Monroe-Offensive Tackle-Virginia
    8. Texans: Vontae Davis-Cornerback-Illinois
    9. Chargers: Taylor Mays-Safety-USC
    10. Jaguars: James Laurinaitis-Inside Linebacker-Ohio State
    11. Browns: Chris Wells-Running back- Ohio State
    12. Broncos: William Moore-Safety-Missouri
    13. Dolphins: Sen’Derrick Marks-Defensive Tackle-Auburn
    14. Packers: George Selvie-Defensive End-South Florida
    15. Colts: Demarcus Granger-Defensive Tackle-Oklahoma
    16. Saints: Aaron Curry-Outside Linebacker-Wake Forest
    17. Vikings: Alphonso Smith-Cornerback-Wake Forest
    18. Lions (Cowboys): Greg Hardy-Defensive End-Ole Miss
    19. Bills: Jermaine Gresham-Tight End-Oklahoma
    20. Jets: Tyson Jackson-Defensive End-LSU
    21. Patriots: Darius Butler-Cornerback-Connecticut
    22. Falcons: Jeremy Maclin-Wide Receiver-Missouri
    23. Bears: Duke Robinson-Offensive Guard-Oklahoma
    24. Cardinals: Brian Orakpo-Defensive End-Texas
    25. Ravens: Darrius Heyward Bay-Wide Receiver-Maryland
    26. Eagles: Jason Smith-Offensive Tackle-Baylor
    27. Buccaneers: Kenny Britt-Wide Receiver-Rutgers
    28. Redskins: Alex Mack-Center-California
    29. Eagles (Panthers): Brandon Pettigrew-Tight End-Oklahoma State
    30. Steelers: Ciron Black-Offensive Tackle-LSU
    31. Giants: Brandon Spikes-Inside Linebacker-Florida
    32. Titans: Derrick Williams-Wide Receiver-Penn State

    [Round 2]

    33. Lions: Peria Jerrry-Defensive Tackle-Ole Miss
    34. Bengals: Brian Cushing-Outside Linebacker-USC
    35. Chiefs: Phil Loadholt-Offensive Tackle-Oklahoma
    36. 49ers: Marcus Freeman-Outside Linebacker-Ohio State
    37. Raiders: Vince Oghobaase-Defensive Tackle-Duke
    38. Seahawks: Kam Chancellor-Safety-Virginia Tech
    39. Rams: DJ Moore-Cornerback-Vanderbilt
    40. Texans: Sean Weatherspoon-Outside Linebacker-Missouri
    41. Chargers: Jamon Meredith-Offensive Tackle-South Carolina
    42. Jaguars: Herman Johnson-Offensive Guard-LSU
    43. Browns: Mike Mickens-Cornerback-Cincinnati
    44. Broncos: Greg Middleton-Defensive End-Indiana
    45. Dolphins: Clint Stintim-Outside Linebacker-Virginia
    46. Packers: Evander Hood-Defensive Tackle-Missouri
    47. Colts: Victor Harris-Cornerback-Virginia Tech
    48. Giants (Saints): Alex Boone-Offensive Tackle-Ohio State
    49. Vikings: Graham Harrell-Quarterback-Texas Tech
    50. Cowboys: Terrence Taylor-Defensive Tackle-Michigan
    51. Bills: Kraig Ubrik-Offensive Guard-Wisconsin
    52. Packers (Jets): Travis Beckum-Tight End-Wisconsin
    53. Patriots: James Davis-Running Back- Clemson
    54. Falcons: Derek Pegues-Safety-Mississippi State
    55. Bears: Demetrius Byrd-Wide Receiver-LSU
    56. Cardinals: Darry Beckwith-Inside Linebacker-LSU
    57. Ravens: Gerald McGrath-Inside Linebacker-Southern Mississippi
    58. Eagles: Brandon LaFell-Wide Receiver-LSU
    59. Buccaneers: Vance Walker-Defensive Tackle-Georgia Tech
    60. Dolphins (Redskins): Juaquin Iglesias-Wide Receiver-Oklahoma
    61. Panthers: Patrick Chung-Safety-Oregon
    62. Steelers: Fili Moala-Defensive Tackle-USC
    63. Giants: Javon Ringer-Running Back-Michigan State
    64. Titans: Pannel Egboh-Defensive End-Stanford
     
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    a DT, OLB, WR. I'd exchange the WR for a CB/FS/SS but that may just be me.

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    unless culver/jason allen step up.
     
  3. NJFINSFAN1

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    B.J. Raji will be drafted in the first two rounds.
     
  4. RealDriscoll

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    Raji has fell in my eyes. There is no question that evander hood, peria jerry, demarcus granger, senderrick marks and terrence taylor are superior players
     
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    You better tell the scouts


    Risers

    B.J. Raji/DT-NT/Boston College: Raji, who sat on the sidelines in 2007 with academic issues, has not missed a beat since returning. He's been a force in the middle for a Boston College rushing defense that ranks second in the ACC and gives up just 106 yards per game.
     
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    Raji has gone up draft boards while Taylor has gone down.

    In the mock(s), I would say that Taylor Mays is too high, Rey Maualuga is too high, this is the first time I've seen Kenny Britt in the first, more of a second rounder and why the Chiefs taking Jenkins? They have two guys in Brandon Carr and Brandon Flowers that they like a lot. Just wondering because that's what I've heard. Brandon Spikes too low, no? Evander Hood will be a first rounder IMO. As NJ said, Raji will be in the first two rounds. Sintim at 45??? I still don't understand Chancellor going so high. He has struggled this year and hasn't played as physical as last year. I saw him in the FSU game get beat.
     
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    * We should see b/c I would love to grab Terrence Taylor in Round 3 if possible. But remeber every mock in the world had Dan Conner in Round 1 last year and he was drafted in Round 3.

    * Rey Maualuga is too high? May I ask why? He is the best linebacker in this draft and selecting at #2 is a bengals team who cannot stop anyone. Maualuga is a beast and if you don't know who he is, go youtube and you will never see a player who can match his ability and intensity.

    * Taylor Mays is rated very high and is probably the best safety in the draft. I am not as high on him as most but there is no question there is alot of buzz surrounding Mays.

    * Kenny Britt reminds me of Terrell Owens. His size is impressive and I see no way Britt last to Round 2.


    *Malcolm jenkins is better than Carr and Flowers. Not too mention that Carr has not been playing lights out by any means. oh and last time I checked the Chiefs had 1 win and were terrible. They hope that a junior QB comes out but I don't see Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, Stafford , or Sanchez coming out. Not too mention that Jenkins is drawing comparisons to Champ Bailey.

    * Is Stintim at #45 too high or low?
     
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    The key to the draft to remeber that there are many good player. Each Round is only 32 picks. Not everyone can be a 1st Rounder....

    [QB]
    -Sam Bradford-Oklahoma
    -Colt McCoy-Texas
    -Matthew Stafford-Georgia
    -Tim Tebow-Florida
    -Mark Sanchez-USC
    -Josh Freeman-Kansas State
    -Matt Grothe-South Florida

    There is 7 potentials 1st Rounders just in QB's!
     
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    I think Maualuga is a first rounder for sure and I'm well aware of who he is. I think that number two is too early for him to go though. JMO. Youtube will show you many positive things about a player but it won't show you the negatives. :wink2:

    I know Mays is rated high, seems a bit early though, no?

    Gotcha.

    Oh, I didn't know you don't think any of the QB's come out. If a QB doesn't come out, I still don't see them taking Jenkins though. I think they'd take Crabtree before Jenkins.

    Should be a first rounder IMO.
     
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    I do wonder who comes out. Making a mock now is pointless. I just had time..

    QB:
    Sam Bradford
    Colt McCoy
    Tim Tebow
    Matthew Stafford
    Mark Sanchez
    Matt Grothe
    Josh Freeman
    Nate Davis
    Max Hall

    RB:
    Knowshon Moreno
    Chris Wells
    CJ Spiller
    Demarco Murray
    LeSean McCoy

    TE:
    Jermaine Gresham

    WR:
    Michael Crabtree
    Jeremy Maclin
    Kenny Britt
    Percy Harvin
    Darrius Heyward Bay

    OL:
    Andre Smith
    Ciron Black

    DL:
    George Selvie
    Greg Hardy
    SenDerrick Marks

    LB:
    Gerald McGrath

    DB
    Myron Rolle
    Taylor Mays

    Who declares IYO? It's hard to tell. It hought Stafford and Moreno but after the butt whipping they took I don't think so..
     
  11. Boomer

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    Bradford won't come out. McCoy has said he's staying and with plenty of youth on that Texas team and unlikely to win the Title, I think he'll stay. Stafford absolutely needs to stay, but his decision may depend on Knowshon Moreno, Tebow isn't an NFL QB, Sanchez is overrated, Freeman is nice but it's a year too soon and Groethe is far too inconsistent to ever be considered in round 1.
     
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    If a tackle goes first, it will be Monroe and not Smith. Demetrius Byrd? Can't see him going in R2 in ANY draft. That's low for Sintim, Mickens is a zone corner, so unlikely to go to the Browns, that's high for Kenny Britt and low for Jason Smith and I have issues with the corners you've chosen and I still think Oher's off the field past and utter inability to grasp the Ole Miss system or play remotely like hs cuttings said he should will see his stock fall and teams wil look at Maulauga and think "liability" because he is so lacking in instincts. Yes he'll go high, but teams will have a field day with him in the NFL.
     
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  13. rdhstlr23

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    Let's just take Darius Passmore WR from Marshall University with our first pick?

    Or Cody Slate TE from Marshall?

    Speaking of those guys Boomer, you know anything about them? I'm guessing, no. Both are good players though. Cody Slate reminds me alot of Greg Olsen--fast, big, strong, and a WR type.
     
  14. RealDriscoll

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    I agree with your opinion on Junior QB's but I don't think the GM's of the NFL teams will. I thin Tebow will be a 1st Rounder, I think Sanchez will as well despite being overrated. McCoy and Bradford are the only ones worthwhile IMO.
     
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    Agreed with the consensus, dont think that Bradford or Colt come out.

    Also, Rey Maualuga is easily the most over-rated player I have seen in sometime. The handfull of USC games I have seen, he really has a tough time stopping people. University of Arizona ran ALL OVER HIM.


    I could easily live with the three you have slated for the Phins..that would be very very nice indeed :up:

    Good effort RD. Thanks
     
  16. Boomer

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    After the Vince Young debacle, no-one is drafting Tebow in round 1.
     
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    I know both of them. Passmore is having a great year and apparently has legit 4.2 speed, although I don't see him as that fast. I saw him beat up on Mike Mickens a year ago and could go on day 1 with a good Combine. Slate is, I think I'm right in saying, an underclassman, so a lot depends on what he does. But with Dennis Pitta already coming out, who knows? He's that Dustin Keller type in that he has good hands and is a weapon down the field ,but I've never seen him block anyone worth a damn. Just looked at the Herd website and he's listed at 228lbs.

    Maybe that's why!
     
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    Holly smokes. 228 and playing TE? Sounds more like a Split-end pulled in tight....
     
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    Ya. He's a smaller TE, but he's a helluva receiver. I expect him to run in the range of 4.5-4.6, I really do. Now whether he's viewed as a TE or not in the NFL I don't know.

    You're right though Boomer. He doesn't block and he's not asked to. That's Lee Smith our 6'7 TE who I expect to get some looks as well in the draft--he's a transfer from Tennessee (Brad Cottam mold).

    Glad you know those guys. I don't expect Passmore to run that. I'm thinking more 4.4-4.5. He's very good WR though. Needs to work a little on his routes, because he isn't asked to run different ones, but he's quick, he's athletic as anyone we've had since Moss. He reminds me of a more sure-handed Chris Chambers actually.
     
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    I would hate to see William Moore go one pick before us. Even though R Hill has picked up the pace we sure could use a guy like Moore.
     
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    Michael Crabtree is nasty good
     
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    I don't see Rey Maualuga is even one of the Top 10 overrated players in this draft. I think rey is going to be a stud
     
  23. Boomer

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    He's also nasty raw.

    He was a high school QB who has played exactly one and a half seasons at WR. Seasoned 4 year starters go to the NFL and struggle mightily, let alone kids who will have just 2 years experience of the position. I doubt he's ever run more than half the routes on the route tree in Mike Leach's offense and when you look at the struggles a much more well rounded WR in Calvin Johnson had last year, you know that Crabtree won't contribute very much in his first season or 2.

    Is he talented? Absolutely so. But does he have the speed to consistently get off press coverage and can he contribute early in a non timing, spread offense?
     
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    I'm just throwing this out there- what in God's name do you think happened with Derek Hagan? I've seen the guy at TC- he and Jason Allen were absolute standouts athletically. One of the former Fins coaches made some comments basically alluding to him not having his priorities in order. With me hope is alive with Jason Allen, but I am just bewildered as to what happened to DH. What a disappointment.

    p.s. Good to see that Ted Ginn is improving. I was surprised to see him temporarily removed from KR duties, punt return not so much. His 2nd gear is great, 1st gear is average, and that just doesn't cut it for PR.
     
  25. ckparrothead

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    Coming out of Day 1 with Sen'Derrick Marks, Clint Sintim and Juaquin Iglesias strikes me as a very pie-in-the-sky type of prediction. I mean, I could be wrong, you never know by the time everything shakes out, but either way I do not think that Sintim falls to that level, and while it's certainly possible for Iglesias to fall to the lower 2nd round...I'm not sure I see it YET...
     
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    Derek Hagan's problems were just all hands and confidence related, I think. When he had to go to the NFL and play fast enough to get open at this level, he just lacked the focus on the football that he needed.
     
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    Bingo on that one. I wouldn't touch him in the 2nd round, either. I'd think about it in the 3rd, which is where I said I'd have to seriously think about Vince Young as well.
     
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    Because I'm bored, because its's 6:52 AM ET, and because I know that my opinion isn't worth a stick of gum, I'm going to go on record: the Fins take S Williiam Moore of Missourri with their 1st rd pick in 2009. Thx Will Allen for the big plays at CB, but I'm not all that thrilled with Reynaldo Hill- Culver has potential, but Moore is the real deal and nearly a sure thing- I see few of those in the class of 2009. I am intrigued by WR Crabtree as well- the dude is just a winner. I caught a little of his last game on TV- he just finds a way. In tems of the pure speed thing, it's a valid point , but I always go back to the same question- what did Jerry Rice run? Bottom line- William Moore.
     
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    I tell you as we sit here today I think Hakeem Nicks might be every bit as good as Michael Crabtree.
     
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    Good point. Assuming Malcom Jenkins and Vontae Davis are gone (at least Andre Goodman is picking up the pace), I'd like:

    1) William Moore
    2) Alex Mack
    3) Hakeem Nicks/the guy from Penn State/the guy from UNC who popped his ACL.

    Mack might be a luxury pick, I don't know. I'm still confused by the whole Quentin Moses/Charlie Washington/Matt Roth thing. Roth's coverage issues have been exposed, I just don't want to give up on Moses and Washington yet, although I think that Boomer makes good points about that whole mess. I still wonder why they don't try Torbor, with maybe Ayodele moved outside. They both can play outside I believe, but someone has to step up to the plate at OLB. I think that Washington got playing time- he should, however, get 10 lashes for that hold on the Ginn PR. Terrible.

    p.s. There is an interesting big receiver from Cal-poly- you may have mentioned him in an earlier post.
     
  31. Duss

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    Terrence Cody NT and Jason Smith OT are 2 intriguing prospects, if both fall to our picks in the second round I would be ecstatic
     
  32. Stitches

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    I would love to see William Moore as our rd1 pick personally, but I can't see us not taking a guy from the defensive front 7. With that said, William Moore in rd1 and Derrick Williams with one of or #2's would make me giddy.
     
  33. ckparrothead

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    Yeah I've talked about him before. He basically is their entire offense. I've actually seen some highlights of him. You don't know about a guy like that until you see him in the all star practices.
     
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    I understand, I haven't sen him play either. I just threw out his name there because apparently scouts that have seen him play are impressed. Plus the size and decent speed. We have London at 6-4, but if this guy is special at
    6'6 and available in the 3rd or 4th.... Ginn improving is huge, but we still need help at WR. Wilford- I'm not sure about the cap situation, but he must have zero wheels and moves. Gotta like Bess, BTW. Crafty, and great hands.

    Gator fans rave about Percy Harvin- one in particular, a close friend of mine and very knowledgable re: football, says firmly he's better than Ginn. Louis Murphy- I want to see more of him, not sure.

    Since is 5:45 AM ET I'll say it again- William Moore. I'd rather take the sure thing at S and draft OLB later- but Stubbornly refuse to give up on the Roth/Moses/Washington trio. I think that Roth is getting yanked on obvious passing downs, but not sure about that. I'm pretty sure that Moses and Washington got PT.

    To anyone out there- how did Andy Alleman play? Carey is picking a lousy (contract) year to be average, and Satele is still good/not great IMO. I'll keep rattling off the name Alex Mack for a while.

    One name that doesn't confuse me at all- William Moore. But if the Pats draft before us, he's gone.
     

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