read the rules and still lost

shula_guy · Feb 5, 2014

This is my first time playing and I am kind of lost. Any help will be appreciated

1. Where do I find my teams cap space?
2. How does the money work if I fire a coach?
3. How are we judged in the end?

Those are my 3 biggest questions I am sure I will probably have more but atm I don't even know how much money I got or who is or is not under contract etc...

VanDolPhan · Feb 5, 2014

1) http://overthecap.com/
It will be officially posted by Paul with the roster in a bit cause some contracts have clauses for right after the Superbowl so it takes a bit to work out. Most guys are just guessing and playing it by that site for now.
2) I skip the coach stuff so I'll let Paul answer
3) It's votes by every GM in the league in a variety of categories from rookie of the year to best offense, best defense, best draft, best FA etc.

Resources:
http://overthecap.com/ <---can't stress enough
https://www.profootballfocus.com/
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
etc

And feel free to ask questions in the general thread. I probably asked like 40 myself last year ;p

shula_guy · Feb 5, 2014

Thank you so much

Paul 13 · Feb 5, 2014

I believe Van already answered 1 and 3 (Thanks Van, you'll be assistant commish shortly ) as for #2... this is from the coaching rules thread (see below) and it should answer most of your questions, but if you still have further ones, let me know. In general, we're here to answer your questions, just fire away.

The start date for the bidding process will be after everyone has announced whether they are retaining or firing their coaches.

1. Each team has the choice of whether they would like to retain their current head coach, offensive coordinator, and defensive coordinator. Interim head coaches may be retained as coordinators or as a head coach. However if retained as a coordinator, teams are eligible to "steal" the coordinator which is explained in rule #4.

2. Position coaches may move up to the coordinator position or the head coach position.

3. Coordinators may move up to the head coach position as well as remain coordinators if they are not offered head coaching jobs.

4. Teams can "steal" retained coordinators by offering a head coaching job. However they cannot "steal" retained coordinators to offer them another coordinator job. Retained coordinators can be promoted to head coach if they fire the head coach first. In house promotions must be made before the bidding process if you wish to forgo the bidding process.

5. Each team will receive $10 million in their bank.

6. Retained salaries go as following: $5 million for head coach ; $2.5 million for offensive coordinator ; $2.5 million for defensive coordinator.

7. Free agent head coaches and coordinators have minimum salaries: $3 million for head coach ; $1.5 million for offensive coordinator ; $1.5 million for defensive coordinator.

8. Coaching staffs will be current as of the time of this thread opening.

9. You must post whether you will retain or fire your current coaching staff in the designated thread.

10. Teams will bid on coaches, like in free agency. When a coach is bid on, if he goes 24 hours without someone else raising the bid, he is awarded to the bidding team.

11. Teams must raise bids by at least $100K.

12. The max bid for a head coach is $7.0 mil. When a head coach hits $7.0 mil, all teams will have the opportunity to match the $7.0 mil bid within 24 hours. The max bid for a coordinator is $3.0 mil, teams will also have the opportunity to match that $3.0 mil bid.

13. The teams that matched a 7 mil bid will be placed in a pool where a randomizer will decide the destination for the coach (like in real life, money isn't everything). The same thing goes for the 3 mil.

14. During the 24 hours when teams can match a coordinator's $3.0M salary, teams can offer that coach a head coaching position which trumps the coordinator position. However after the 24 hour period, the coach is off-limits for head coaching jobs.

15. You CANNOT hire a coach that has been out of coaching (out of work, not retired) for over 3 years (Cowher, Dungy, and Gruden are not eligible; Romeo Crennel is eligible), all but three college coaches, and fictional characters.

16. You cannot fire coaches that you have signed via Coaching Free Agency.

If there are any questions, feel free to ask.

I won't have every single available coach on my list so if you are interested in a person that is eligible to be a coach or coordinator but is not on the list... just bid on him here.

Remember, he cannot be out of coaching for more than 3 years, currently coach a college team (unless they are one of the three exceptions), or be a fictional character. You can promote other teams coaches only if you offer them a promotion (IE, promote a team's offense coordinator to head coach or quarterbacks coach to offense coordinator).

Minimum bids for a head coach is $3.0M.
Minimum bids for a coordinator is $1.5M.

Maximum bids for a head coach is $7.0M.
Maximum bids for a coordinator is $3.0M.
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shula_guy · Feb 5, 2014

I guess what I am confused about is where the money comes from. Is it deducted from your cap space?

Fin-Omenal · Feb 5, 2014

shula_guy said:

I guess what I am confused about is where the money comes from. Is it deducted from your cap space?
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Nope. It's an allotted amount for us all.

Paul 13 · Feb 5, 2014

Fin-Omenal said:

Nope. It's an allotted amount for us all.
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correct... completely separate from your team's cap for players. the coaching salary structure is just for bidding purposes only. Obviously some coaches make more or less than the amounts listed

BuckeyeKing · Feb 5, 2014

shula_guy said:

I guess what I am confused about is where the money comes from. Is it deducted from your cap space?
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Its just another cap outside your salary cap for player transactions.

shula_guy · Feb 7, 2014

New Question:

If there is a player on my roster that is about to become a FA can I sign him before that happens and avoid getting into a bidding war or is franchising him the only way that can be done?

UCFinfan86 · Feb 7, 2014

A new wrinkle this year is "Winter Meeting 3" where we will have the option of potentially keeping one of our own Free Agents. The only other option is the franchise tag. So we can potentially keep up to 2 of our own Free Agents. Paul does a pretty good job of explaining it here:

Re-Signing one of your players BEFORE free agency

Perhaps the most controversial idea, probably because it has the potential to be confusing. The goal here is to give teams an ability to retain a free agent by re-signing them before free agency starts. But there is a risk as you are exposing the player to the free agent market if an opposing team places a silent bid above the original team’s bid (which will be public).

The details… A GM would have the ability to possibly re-sign ONE of their free agents. Whoever they choose is up to them. There will be a 24 hour process whereby a GM lists ONE free agent from their team in a thread and a $ amount for the bid (I want GM’s to PM me their re-sign player, not post in thread, I will post the list at the start of the 24 hour process. This way, teams don’t have an advantage for not posting their player until the end).

The 31 remaining teams will then have 24 hours to react by PMing me a silent bid (normal free agency rules apply with respect to a bid amount being beaten and you must be under the cap of course). If nobody places a higher bid than the original team, that player is re-signed at the amount listed. If another team places a higher bid than the original team, if it’s the HIGHEST bid, that bid remains on the player at the start of free agency. From there, normal free agency rules apply. NOTE: The team with the highest bid at the start of free agency still has the maximum amount of bids available for free agency. In other words, it doesn’t count against them (so yes, if there are five bids maximum, a team could possibly have SIX if they are leading a bid on a player). Since the voting is silent (where I’m getting PM’s) teams will be kept in the dark with respect to who has the highest bid until the 24 hour process is over.

Another NOTE: A re-signed player CANNOT be traded later.

Before you vote, consider the strategy involved in who you designate for re-sign. This player would not be available for any type of franchise or tender offer. The player could be either a UFA or RFA. Also, you can choose NOT to expose any of your players to this re-sign process. Although, I would think you’ll want to do this, if for no other reason than to re-sign a “lesser” free agent that you want to keep.
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shula_guy · Feb 7, 2014

I really like how you guys handle the resign. I am getting more and more addicted as I learn how this game is played

UCFinfan86 · Feb 7, 2014

It is very addicting, wait until the trading gets in full swing and then free agency. I am usually glued to this forum for the next 3 months

ToddPhin · Feb 8, 2014

Don't be so hard on yourself. We haven't even gotten started and Fin-O has already lost too.

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