The Jets used this play a few times last year. My question is, why wouldn't the Corner just blow up Chad on that play. He is not under center, so he is fair game, right?
Good question, I was kind of wondering that myself. I noticed that nobody bumped him or anything though.
I'm not sure. My guess is that they didn't know what to think and were focusing on Ronnie and Ricky. It may have been obvious that Chad was in to block. Committing the corner to tie up Chad would have been a bad investment, IMO.
The more time you try to "blow up" chad the more chance a Ricky comes across actually holding the ball, a Ronnie running towards your side, maybe a Fasano running your way.
haha..that would be sweet..some tool trying to take a cheap one on penny with Ricky running at him full bore..they might think it was worth it..for a second
well, Coach said he told Chad to stay away.. step out of bounds if he has too... In the pros, you can't beat on someone not trying to be in the play.. so as long as Chad doesn't try to go out for a pass, or block they wouldn't be able to do much.. Tom Jackson made a great comment, said he played for Lee Corso, and Corso told them to kill the qb and they would quit running the play.. I cracked up.
I think they were more worried about stopping the guy who has the ball and trying to see who would get the ball in that situation.
But once they see it is a run, then he is game. I guess that he did not really try to block. Just a thought though.. And for the record, I am not condoning taking out a player.
Could also be that seeing as the NFL treats QB's like Superman treats Cryptonite he may well have said I'll just keep the cash and let the QB live another day. He isn't a QB because he lines up at WR on a gimmick play. The NFl won't let that happen, too much money paid to these guys. Pennington isn't the best example - line up Brett Favre out there and touch him. Guess what happens.
[ Because the corner was so in awe of the play he found it more exciting to stop and stare at the beauty of it all.
For one, IMO, no one takes Pennington as a serious pass catching threat, two the secondary KNOWS either Williams or Brown are getting the ball in what is going to be a run 95 percent of the time. The beauty of this play is you know whats going to happen you just dont know where its going.
Nothing. He's fair game. Which is one of the reasons NFL teams don't use that formation often - it's hazardous to your QB's health if he's doing anything more than standing there and watching. Even in the case of old man Favre the NFL couldn't do anything about it. Personally, if I were Sparano, I'd try a lateral to Penny once (who would then throw it downfield) and afterwards make sure he's stepping out of bounds every time I run that formation.
What would be the point in the corner going after chad? afterall, once the ball is snapped, and chad doesnt move, its clearly a run play, why would any disciplined, smart football player waste his time going after a guy who's not in the play instead of paying attention to the ball carrier.
It's not something likely to be a serious issue. If they want to jam him hard, fine- He's 225 pounds, and an athlete in his own right. He probably isn't going to get a clean release or anything, but all Pennington being fragile jokes aside he's not going to simply fall down and hit the soft spot in his head or anything like that.I don't think I've ever seen, or much less heard of anyone being injured while being jammed at the line. If they want to take a cheap shot at him, there's just as many opportunities for it elsewhere. I think that's more of a criticism of why Option-based offenses have never made it big in the NFL as a base offense in college, and not really applicable to this specific formation being used sparingly. The belief is that your typical rushing QB is going to be unable to handle the number of carries the system would call for against the punishment of an NFL defense. The Dolphins specific situation negates this seeing as the "option" guy is a 6'0" 235 pound runningback, rather than someone built like Mike Vick or whomever.
It is a valid question and one that going forward, probably will be answered at the expense of Penington. I think the first time it happened, it caught Ne wEngland so off guard that each time they lined up after that, they kept guessing wrong on what Miami would do. If you look at the last TD (the 62 yarder), New England is completely flat-footed and seemingly stunned that Miami ran the same play again. Honestly, if I am the cornerback and I see that formation, I am calling an audible and play a "bump and run" coverage on Chad. Meanign when the ball is snapped I am crashign into Chad and then finding the ball carrier. Chances are that it is a run play going AWAY from Chad, so you don't lose anything in terms of ground. Plus, if Chad tries to fight back, chances are he is going to hold and negate any positive play that might occur. On top of all of that, CNC is right. You hit the QB, and that play goes away. No one will risk the health of their QB longterm for a gimmick play. As soon as Chad gets popped good, he will be right back under center where he belongs. If I am Chad, I line up, and when the ball is snapped, I hightail it out of bounds. He holds the defender long enough to free up the run play and keeps himself healthy.
I'm asking this question because I don't exactly know. The NFL rules are geared to protect the QB. Penning is still the QB even being at the WR position. He is still wearing the green dot helmet. Unless he makes an obvious football move I'm guessing they will steer clear of him to avoid the potential for penalties for roughing and such?
anyone can wear the green dot helmet as long as it is only one person wearing the helmet and it is checked in with the officials..point in case last yr jeff saturday(colts center)wore the green dot helmet in one game but even the announcers didn't notice till like the fourth quarter(it was odd cause i noticed it and said something to my friend then right after the announcer said he just realized jeff was wearing it).
They don't hit CP b/c there's no point other than to get a shot in. A legal chuck isn't going to dissuade the team from running the play. All the cb can do is run up and hit him in the chest. Big deal! What the cb should be doing is looking into the backfield first b/c the most likely play is a running play. If CP starts to run a pattern or tries to block then that's different but that didn't happen.
That's pretty much what Sparano told him to do, apparently. But he threw a real block on Ricky's 28-yard run. The three TD runs by Brown couldn't have been more basic. Ndukwe blocked straight ahead, Carey blocked his guy in, Long (lined up outside of Carey) blocked his guy out, Smiley pulled and Brown followed him through the hole. Cobbs and Martin did a great job making sure their guys couldn't accomplish anything, either. I was especially impressed by the blocking on the short TD runs -- you don't see holes like that inside the 10-yard line too often, especially against the Patriots. The funny thing is, except for the ends being split out so wide, you could travel back to 1930 and see that exact same play run over and over. Everything old is new again.
