Question for my draft gurus...ATTN CK/Boom/Con

the simple answer is no ..... i say this purely from the standpoint that this FO doesn't usually treasure RBs .... they have in the past just reached out to the scrap heap and plugged in older RBs (such as RW). Of course, Ronnie and the WC are an unusual circumstance for this FO.

the only change to this was in Dallas .... but not sure how much of that was driven by this FO vice JJ .....

i could see Spiller in rd 1, because he has special talent .... but in reality, i don't see us spending much more than a late 5-7 round pick on a RB.

 

at least one unamed scout is disappointed with his workout

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

 

IMO it's a big assumption that RW wants to play beyond 2010. It's just as likely that he's trying to seek out opportunities for after football, more IMO. I think he probably feels comfortable negotiating his own contracts since the last one was reportedly a very easy process. But he probably needs someone to look for media deals and such after football.

 

I don't believe RB is an option for the Dolphins before the 4th round at the earliest, unless they trade Ronnie Brown.

But remember, trading Brown is still a 50/50 thing at this point. We may not have heard much about it lately, but there are probably things in the works already laid out that just depend on how certain scenarios play out.

I don't agree with the premise that Ricky Williams can EVER claim a big contract again. I think with the way his career has gone, he's going to be underpaid for the rest of it. The coaches love him though.

 

I'd be surprised if Ricky got more than 2 mil a year anywhere. That would even be a good amount at his age, and as a backup/platooning guy.

I don;t like Blount's character, and running backs are a dime a dozen. Give me Ben Tate in the 4th round and I'm happy. He'd look good behind this O-line.

When you pay an O-line what we do, you don;t need a top of the first round running back.

 

I am no draft expert, but an Oregon Ducks fan.

I personally think that Blount isn't going to work in the NFL, which is hard for me to say being a fan.
I think the kid has some skills. Can definitely run hard and tough, when he wants to that is.
He is a bruiser in college, but am not entirely sure that can translate to the NFL. He certainly has victimized people, but from what I remember his big hits were mostly players in the secondary.
He come from a system that to a large degree it is plug and play with RB's. He was special in it, but certainly never looked like Johnathan Stewart. In 2008 he also split time with Jeremiah Johnson, and to a large degree was a backup to him. Blount would come in in goal line situations or in the second half (in which Oregon did most of their damage.) His numbers are a bit inflated. He was better then Johnson, but was limited it workload and not by a significant margin.
Most of Blount successful runs were through gaping holes. He will do a bit of dancing if he doesn't see a hole which usually equates to a loss of yards. Until he gets a head of steam he really isn't that powerful.

My major concern with him is his work ethic. He was a Ju-Co transfer I believe because of academics. After 2008 he was also suspended for "Team rules." He was reinstated but when the start of the 2009 season rolled around he seemed to not be in playing shape at all. Looked very slow. Then of course came the punch which needs not to even be discussed.

I was halfway relieved when he was suspended because I personally like LaMichael James more. Better in the read.

I really didn't intend to be this critical of him but after rereading I guess I'm basically saying, I don't think he has a shot in the NFL. But, I've been very wrong before.

I personally like Hardesty from TN. But I haven't watched tons of him.

 

That is simply not true. Parcells brought Martin with him while he was with the Jets and paid a hefty price (1 and 3) and also invested a 2 in julius jones in dallas. They didnt pull RW out of the scrap heap, they simply gave him the chance to get his career back. I do agree that we wont see a RB picked before round 5 though but I think a guy like Blount who is a good back and a bruising back which you know this regime likes could be around a bit later...maybe if use a couple of those 6's to get in to round 5 we could grab him there.

Well bro, the 4.35M hes getting this year isnt exactly peanuts. Thats pretty big for a 1 year deal.

Ben Tate isnt going to be there in round 4. IMO you're probably looking at the back end of round 2/early round 3 for Tate. You MIGHT have a chance for Hardesty in round 4.

 

Ricky has not said that he wants to play past 2010.

 

Thought he had said so. Saw it on PFT somewhere.

 

I love Legarrette Blount but not with the 3rd. He's a change of pace back, a bruiser, a 3rd and short type. If he's around the 6th round I would instantly grab him. 4th round or 3rd round is too high. The value isnt there for what he would be for us

 

you misunderstand what i mean by trash heap ... RW was indeed in the trash heap when this regime came in, do you think he would have gotten a better contract anywhere else than what he got from us. Every year there are multiple older stop gap RBs available .... what i call the trash heap. there are only a few RBs that are worth the pick and $$$$$

with regrad to Jones ... do we know whether that was a Parcells pick - or a JJ pick. He has spent 3 X 1st round pick on a RB - Adams, Hampton & Russell, 1 X 2d round pick - Jones .... He got Martin (a stud) in the 3d .... he saw his value and brought him to NY - not too surprising, since he was still relatively young, and a workhorse.

My point is that how he gets his RBs is different from most coaching staffs, outside of his NYG days, it is rare that he invests a day 1 pick on one ... well, now include day 2 ....

Curtis Martin was the best RB he ever drafted, and maybe the best RB he ever coached -- so no surprise that he gave up what he did to take him with him.

 

That doesn't say he wants to. That says that PFT thinks he wants to.

 

In your opinion.

 

RWs is incredibly popular for a back who hasn't really done more than have one good year. I don't know if it's his eccentric views or what, but I could very easily see him end up on some show. At a minimum, it would make sense for him to explore it.

And it doesn't even matter if you agree on whether he will or won't find something. The point is that hiring an agent could be done for more than one reason. Since we don't know the reason, we can't assume it's b/c he plans to play beyond the year he stated he wanted to retire.

 

I didn't mean that your opinion of his marketability didn't matter b/c I don't value it. I just meant that it wouldn't confirm one way or the other why he hired Drew R.

As for RW, IMO he had one great season he rest did not qualify as great. I see him as a less successful version of Jamal Lewis. And people rarely talk about how great Lewis was.

 

Let's be fair, he has had four or five good years and one GREAT year.