Providence Journal: Pats concerned about Ginn
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ColmaxForum VeteranOPFOXBORO -- Special teams could play a big role in Sunday's Patriots game versus Miami.
Miami kick returner Ted Ginn Jr. became the first player in NFL history to have two touchdowns of 100 yards or more in the same game when he returned two kickoffs for touchdowns last Sunday against the New York Jets.
His two kickoff returns for a touchdown were a Dolphins record, and so were his 299 return yards.
"Ginn is very fast. He has the ability to take the ball any place on the field - start on one side go to the other, start up the middle bounce it out, start outside cut it back and just outrun just about everybody we have on our kickoff team," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said. "I don't know that we or any team in the league has more than one or two, if that, people that could run with Ted Ginn.
"Leverage, tackling and discipline in our lanes and recognizing blocking schemes and doing a good job of tackling - all that is going to be crucial against Miami this week, but again we've seen a lot of that all year - good return teams, good returners - and this is another in that list of challenges for us."
Ginn is ranked first in the league among kickoff returners with more than two returns with a 34.9 yards per return average (14 returns for 489 yards).
"He's an explosive guy," Patriots special teams ace Matthew......
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didnt the patriots draft a kicker who kicks it out the back of the end zone and gets a touch back just about every time?
UM_all_dayNew MemberI'm glad we have another thing teams have to worry about :D......I hope we get the ball first and score :D
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BuckeyeKingNew Member"eric wrote:
didnt the patriots draft a kicker who kicks it out the back of the end zone and gets a touch back just about every time?
I think that was Dallas.
MiguelNew MemberThey shount Be he only plays well against Newyork..
He is due to FAIL
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bakedmattNew MemberGostkowski gets a fair amount of touch backs, but his current season ratio is 13(TBs) to 30 (returns).
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SICKForum Veteranperfect. time. for. a. reverse.
ginn recieves it, goes hard to the right.....pitches it to kory sheets....or someone fast....they go scott free to the left.....with everyone biting hard on ginn :evil:
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"SICK wrote:
perfect. time. for. a. reverse.
ginn recieves it, goes hard to the right.....pitches it to kory sheets....or someone fast....they go scott free to the left.....with everyone biting hard on ginn :evil:
This. :knucks:
I do think this is normal Patsies stuff though. Every week they come about how Player X is great and blah blah. Same old, same old from their crew.
jason8erLuxury BoxAs Padre has already pointed out, there are new faces blocking for Ginn, and it showed. Especially on his second TD. Yeah, he did make Larry Izzo and crew hug some air, but he also got two key blocks that kept him from getting tackled in our own end. Including one by Chris Clemons that kept Ginn at speed, making Strickland's angle a useless one.
Plus, our ST guys were and are now pumped. When your guy starts taking it to the house, you just want to work that much harder to keep it up. I hope they can.
padre31Luxury Box"SICK wrote:
perfect. time. for. a. reverse.
ginn recieves it, goes hard to the right.....pitches it to kory sheets....or someone fast....they go scott free to the left.....with everyone biting hard on ginn :evil:
Other way around Sick, it would be better if Sheets fielded the kick, and then to have Ginn run the reverse ala the Bills game, it would look alot like a Jet Sweep on a kick off, if Sheets kept the ball he heads up the middle, other wise Ginn just runs for the corner of the blocking scheme.
SICKForum Veteran"padre31 wrote:
Other way around Sick, it would be better if Sheets fielded the kick, and then to have Ginn run the reverse ala the Bills game, it would look alot like a Jet Sweep on a kick off, if Sheets kept the ball he heads up the middle, other wise Ginn just runs for the corner of the blocking scheme.
that would only work if its a fake to ginn imo.....after last week....they will surely be spying ginn the entire time. (and dont call me surely)
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padre31Luxury Box"SICK wrote:
that would only work if its a fake to ginn imo.....after last week....they will surely be spying ginn the entire time. (and dont call me surely)
Sort of, if Ginn fielded the ball, whomever went on the reverse, Hartline, maybe Sheets, would have the benefit of the kick coverage focusing on Ginn.
SICKForum Veteran"padre31 wrote:
Sort of, if Ginn fielded the ball, whomever went on the reverse, Hartline, maybe Sheets, would have the benefit of the kick coverage focusing on Ginn.
ya thats what i was saying to begin with.....ginn fields the kickoff runs to the right.....everyone goes that way.....he pitches to sheets or hartline.....they are gone around the outside
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NolePhinNew MemberIt almost seems like Belichic talks up his opposition, to sort of inflate their heads. As opposed to talking smack and pissing the opposition off (Rex Ryan), this way if anything would give the opposition a false sense of accomplishment.
This is probably far off, I am just talking out loud.
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DrAstroZoomLuxury Box"NolePhin wrote:
It almost seems like Belichic talks up his opposition, to sort of inflate their heads. As opposed to talking smack and pissing the opposition off (Rex Ryan), this way if anything would give the opposition a false sense of accomplishment.
This is probably far off, I am just talking out loud.
You're not far off at all. I would say the Jets and Pats both exhibit poor sportsmanship; the Pats simply keep it on the field.
rafaelForum VeteranThis is good news. I don't expect Ginn to return another two for TDs or anything (the all-time season record is four) but I do expect that the gunners will stay in their lanes a bit longer before collapsing in. That could create more space inside and provide better starting field position for our offense.
Another thing they might try is more directional kicking to shrink the field. But this can result in a few out of bounds kicks. I also think it sets up for Ginn's strength.
Of course they may just be so scared that they kick them all out of bounds or just squib kick every time. I would be fine with that as well.
unluckylucianoNew Member"NolePhin wrote:
It almost seems like Belichic talks up his opposition, to sort of inflate their heads. As opposed to talking smack and pissing the opposition off (Rex Ryan), this way if anything would give the opposition a false sense of accomplishment.
This is probably far off, I am just talking out loud.
naw bb just doesn't want to add extra fuel I would think.
I also think as much as we may despise the guy, he does it to be a little classier.
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Frumundah FinnaticNew Membernow the question is do they kick away from him, most likely resulting in a bad kick? or do they squib a few times and count on their old banged up D?
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It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.
Rhody Phins FanForum Veteran"rafael wrote:
This is good news. I don't expect Ginn to return another two for TDs or anything (the all-time season record is four) but I do expect that the gunners will stay in their lanes a bit longer before collapsing in. That could create more space inside and provide better starting field position for our offense.
My thoughts exactly. If i was a special teamer and outside containment was my job then I would be extra careful with Ginn after seeing what he did against the Jets.