Prediction

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  1. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    We will not hire any of the big name coaches that are supposedly out there. No knock on anyone at all. i just do not see any of them wanting to come here for various reasons. Thats my predicition.
     
  2. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I have been saying for awhile that I would prefer Chudzinski, Jay Gruden or Joe Philben over the big name coach so your prediction works for me.
     
  3. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    This is going to be such a long drawn out exhausting process and I have a feeling you are right.
    They will hire a no name and I predict this site and the fanbase will implode.
     
  4. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    I predict that this site and fanbase will implode no matter who this team hires.
     
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  5. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    I predict all four of you are correct.
     
  6. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    As they say down here, "I heard THAT!"
     
  7. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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  8. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I think the biggest obstacle to the Dolphins bringing in a quality coach is the fact that Ross seems to want to keep Ireland as the teams GM. With all the other openings in the NFL which now exist and the prospect of more openings over the next month, I don't see the Dolphins being able to entice any big name coach to come here if Ireland remains with the team. I think Ireland is just as much to blame for the mediocre record of the Dolphins over the past three years as Sparano was. Until Ross understands that Ireland is the problem and not the solution, the Dolphins will remain the same type of team they have been for the last decade.
     
  9. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Thats a problem right now. Who picks the next head couch Ireland or Ross? Does Ross man up and take credit or does he hide behind Ireland so he doesn't have to take credit if the hiring is a failure.
     
  10. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    GMs are almost never fired before the draft b/c you lose all the work that has been done. So you give whomever hires him all that info and you are almost a year behind on your own draft prep. The mob wants blood, but firing Ireland now would be a poor business decision.
     
  11. Aquafin

    Aquafin New Member

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    What in hell is wrong with you guys . are you saying this just because you all wanted sparano to to continue his lame coaching ways ? I can see why ypu all think this because of our idiot owner . but Mr Ross can not afford another dumb coaching move or this club will go broke and contract.


    Mr Ross wants to make a splash and just because the knucklehead Peterson is on board doesnt nessecarrly mean we will hire Herm Edwards.

    if Mr Ross wants to keep his team then he 'd better do something to bring back the fans or the commish will ask Ross to sell the team which may not be a bad thing. So lets not automaticaly jumpt to conclusions just yet.

    if Miami is to stay a franchize then Ross Needs to make a splash . I could see us getting a young and up and comer but wasnt that what Sparano was supose to be ?

    he would not have fired Sparano just to hire a nobody he has to go after a big name coach bbut ypu guys may be right he will have re assign Ireland or fire Ireland to make that happen.
     
  12. dolfan22

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    I know Regis is a big football and ND fan , but didn't know his wife Joy was a coaching candidate .:up:
     
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  13. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    This argument makes absolutely no sense at all. Why should the next coach be forced to draft players in the next draft, just because a failed GM is kept on the job? When Parcells was hired, he didn't keep Spielman around just because of the draft information he gathered during the year. He got rid of his a** and the Dolphins ended up in the playoffs the next season.

    I am sure there are plenty of qualified personnel people in the NFL who could come in and do a far better job than Ireland, who have their own knowledge of the best players to select in the upcoming draft. If Ross is actually keeping Ireland around for the draft, this is ridiculous. It is the players this fool has drafted and signed in free agency which have kept the Dolphins a bad team over the last three years. Why anyone would want him in charge of the 2012 draft is beyond me.

    I think I would rather have a untrained monkey picking names out of a hat to select players than have Ireland making these decisions for another year.
     
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  14. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I don't think your opinion of Ireland is shared in NFL circles. In fact, I really liked the one draft that Ireland was in charge of. As for the rest, it may not make sense to you, but it is the way things are. A team's GM is rarely fired before the draft.
     
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  15. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Exactly, we have been through this before. Did everyone forget that Speilman was fired after the draft?
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Of course Parcells didn't keep Spielman because Mueller was the GM. Spielman was kept by Saban until the draft and was fired after that.
     
  17. Conuficus

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    Thank you. I said the same in another thread and honestly didn't feel like saying it again. :up:

    Its not something that happens over night, it just can't. After the draft, yes, absolutely it can happen with much less ripple effects.
     
  18. DOLPHAN1

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    I think Jay intrigues me the most, would like to see him in here.
     
  19. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

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    This is what the Raiders are finding out right now as they wanted to fill the position vacated by the late Al Davis immediately. Allegedly the best prospects from the personnel side of clubs won't be let go before the draft for the reasons you mentioned above.
     
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  20. Ohio Fanatic

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    maybe it's the cold medicine in me, but...what the hell are you talking about?

    "the commish will ask Ross to sell the team?". who do you think the commish answers to? How was Sparano a "young up and comer"?
     
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  21. Aquafin

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    I am talking about Mr Ross needs to make a splash becuase he cant afford to keep losing money on this frachize .

    yes , Goodell answers to the owner but Mr Ross embarrased this club last year so has to be wanting to get a big name coach because everyone thought sparano was a up and comer and he failed.

     
  22. mommabilly

    mommabilly No riders allowed

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    No one ever said Ross does not want to hire a Bill Cowher. All I said was I do not think he is going to GET a big name coach, for various reasons. In regards to being forced to seel due to attendance ? Hit the link, Goodel is going to have to force owners of 4 other teams to sell before he forces Ross to sell. Sorry, that thought is really nonsense on forcing Ross to sell.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
     
  23. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Well said man. Ireland is the only bit of stability left for now.
     
  24. mommabilly

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    After what Ireland did on the reach out to Harbaugh while Tony was still HC, does anyone really honestly think any legitimately sought after coach is going to trust Ireland ? Hc and GM NEED to have trust in each other. Ireland can be trusted about as far as you can pickhim up and throw him, which is not far.

    Ireland is a backstabbing brown nose SOB and the better coaches know that. We will probably hire an up and coming Division 4 football coach. Just like the offensive co ordinator Ireland brought in, Dabol. nobody but us, would even give him a sniff.

    Another prediciton, Between Ireland and Steven SnyderJones Ross, they will blow this HC hire big time. Watch. Cannot wait to see Ross introduce the only coach we could hire as 'This is the guy I wanted all along "
     
  25. jpep13

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    If Ross has the idea of letting go Ireland after the draft, how could he send the message to
    potential hires if they do not want to work with Ross?
     
  26. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    because Ireland did was he was paid to do by his boss?
     
  27. ckparrothead

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    My prediction is that whoever they hire will have been a Head Coach at some level before. I do not think they're going to hire a guy that's never been a Head Coach at any level of football.

    That eliminates Rob Chudzinski and Pete Carmichael, Jr...IMO.

    Tony Dungy is a smart guy. When he says a name...I don't think he says it for no reason. He recently did a Dungy's Diary segment where he named three non-household names that SHOULD be given Head Coaching jobs in the NFL. They were Jay Gruden, Mel Tucker and Chip Kelly.

    Jay Gruden has been a Head Coach in the Arena League and in the UFL. He could end up a candidate and is indeed a hot name right now. The primary obstacle would be Jay himself. In his own way, he can be as flakey as his brother. Look how long Gruden stayed in the Orlando area being a Head Coach of a podunk team instead of climbing the coaching ladder...just because he didn't want to move his family. I listened to a radio interview Jay did with an Orlando reporter back in October/November and Jay said straight out he's not ready to be a Head Coach and he thinks there are assistant coaches on his own staff in Cincinnati that deserve it more than he does. Now, if we're going to give ourselves some perspective on Jay, his only NFL experience prior to this year was as a part-time assistant on Jon Gruden's offenses in Tampa Bay, offenses that were generally pretty poor. He won a bunch of championships in the Arena League and UFL as both a quarterback and a head coach, and he's doing pretty good as offensive coordinator of the Bengals. But, let's not confuse the Bengals' offense for the next coming of the Greatest Show on Turf. They did just lose a game 20-19 against the Texans. They're doing well considering the rookies at QB and WR but that WR rookie sure doesn't look or play like a rookie.

    Mel Tucker had never been a Head Coach before he was promoted to interim Head Coach. That may knock him out of the race. But as I look at his coaching history...I'll be damned if Tony Dungy just picked this guy out of a hat or something. He was a Graduate Assistant under Nick Saban, specializing in defensive backs. He went off to Miami of Ohio to be the Secondary Coach there for two years. He came back to Nick Saban at LSU to be their Secondary Coach in 2000. He left for the same job at Ohio State under Jim Tressel from 2001 to 2004. Mel Tucker then went to the Cleveland Browns to be Romeo Crennel's Secondary Coach. In Cleveland, the defense ranked 6th in the league in interception percentage for the four years, pulling in 73 interceptions. He was hired by Jacksonville as Defensive Coordinator in 2009. The defense was ranked #28 in 2009, #27 in 2010, but is #7 in the league in 2011. And I have to say that game the team played against the Buccaneers was superb. I thought Tucker also made a decent showing against the Chargers in his first action as a Head Coach, but the simple fact of the matter is the injuries they've had to deal with at Defensive End and Cornerback are absolutely ridiculous...and especially at corner, against a healthy Vincent Jackson and a healthy Malcolm Floyd, a combination that Rivers has rarely had at his disposal at full health this year...facing Phil Rivers in December with Ashton Youboty and rookie Kevin Rutland starting at cornerback? And the fearsome combination of Jeremy Mincey, Leger Douzable and George Selvie at Defensive End? Yeah, that's going to get ugly. But against the Bucs, they had the same cast of characters, and they walloped them. I watched that game, the Jags dominated in all three phases. If Mel Tucker continues to impress in his showings this year...he might be a guy to keep an eye on. I like that he's coached under Nick Saban, Jim Tressel and Romeo Crennel. Those are some good football people. And coaching under Jack Del Rio...it's not like he coached under Cam Cameron or something.

    Then the real intriguing name Dungy brought up was Chip Kelly. Would he be interested? That would be a VERY interesting hire. Dungy's son plays for Oregon. On the one hand, there's a sense of maybe Dungy is recommending Kelly just because he is his son's coach. In fact he even said during the diary I hope Chip Kelly stays at Oregon for the next three years so that my son can continue to play for him. But on the other hand...Tony Dungy wouldn't have had his son go there if he didn't have a ton of respect for Chip Kelly to begin with. That would be a real interesting hire. As Tony Dungy points out, Oregon was basically one play away from beating Auburn in the National Championship game...and where Auburn had 12 guys drafted in that very next Draft, Oregon had 1 guy drafted. Everyone talks about Les Miles, but this would be a more interesting hire, to me. If you hire Chip Kelly then I think the only way to go in the Draft would be Robert Griffin.
     
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  28. bran

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    i have a gut feeling it might be jeff fisher but who knows at this point
     
  29. MrClean

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    It's not the cold medicine man. I am sober as a judge right now, and was wondering exactly the same things you were. :lol:
     
  30. MrClean

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    Much as I love the Dolphins, Chipper Kelly absolutely must stay at Oregon!!! Please football gods, hear my cry!!!!
     
  31. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

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    Say it anyway you want it, but Goodell is not going to be asking Ross to sell the team, nor would it be his place to do so. IF it were his place to do so, there are several owners he'd be asking before he ever got around to Ross.
     

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