Potential 5th round picks

since i would spend every one of our 1-4th rd picks on defense, i would 'consider' offense here with Quarless and Cooper / Williams ... and i still like Easley ... but would still probably wait to rd 6 and stick with defense.

Lang / Edds also crops in here if either is still available ... i would really like the tandem of Lane / Lang from this draft at OLB.

There is the group of ILBs: Butler, Dillard, Chaney, Johnson et al ... that fit in here as well ...

and at CB there is Cook / Ansa ...

If Larry Asante is there when we pick in the fifth I would be happy with that pick as long as we get a FS in the first couple rounds also mike williams would be a great pick in round 5

Andrew Quarless and Jeff Owens are the two best players on the board there IMO.

"Conuficus wrote:

Andrew Quarless and Jeff Owens are the two best players on the board there IMO.

I think the 5th round is where they'll go NT.

Jamar Chaney. Lb, Miss St.

"Big Red wrote:

Now that we have added a 5th round pick by trading Ginn I thought it would be intetesting to look at potential prospects. Here is my list. It includes guys who may slide, guys who should definitely be there, and maybe a couple who might even be there in the 6th round.

QB John Skelton 6-6 243 Fordham 4.85 No
QB Jarrett Brown 6-3 224 WVU 4.50 No
QB/WR Joe Webb 6-4 223 UAB 4.49 Yes
WR Dezmon Briscoe 6-2 207 Kansas 4.66 Yes
WR Mike Williams 6-2 221 Syracuse 4.53 Yes
WR Emmanuel Sanders 5-11 186 SMU 4.40 Yes
RB Lonyae Miller 6-0 221 Fresno State 4.43 Yes
RB LeGarrette Blount 6-1 241 Oregon 4.70 Yes
TE Andrew Quarless 6-5 254 Penn State 4.68 Yes
OG Zane Beadles 6-5 310 Utah 5.28 Yes
OG Marshall Newhouse 6-4 319 TCU 4.99 No
OG Ciron Black 6-5 327 LSU 5.53 NO
NT Jeff Owens 6-1 304 Georgia 4.97 Yes
OLB George Johnson 6-5 268 Rutgers 4.78 Yes
OLB Arthur Moats 6-0 246 James Madison 4.64 Yes
OLB Kevin Basped 6-5 258 Nevada 4.75 No
ILB Perry Riley 6-1 239 LSU 4.69 Yes
ILB Rennie Curran 5-11 235 Georgia 4.75 OK
ILB Pat Angerer 6-0 235 Iowa 4.71 YESSS
CB Alterraun Verner 5-10 189 UCLA 4.52 Ok
SS Kurt Coleman 5-10 192 Ohio State 4.56 Yes
SS Larry Asante 6-0 212 Nebraska 4.62 Yes

Who do you like?

My votes in bold above.

Out of that group I would be happy with any of the players below. Thats around the time you start looking for the best available player and talent overrides need.

WR Dezmon Briscoe 6-2 207 Kansas 4.66
WR Mike Williams 6-2 221 Syracuse 4.53
RB LeGarrette Blount 6-1 241 Oregon 4.70
TE Andrew Quarless 6-5 254 Penn State 4.68
NT Jeff Owens 6-1 304 Georgia 4.97
OLB George Johnson 6-5 268 Rutgers 4.78
SS Larry Asante 6-0 212 Nebraska 4.62

Jacoby Ford

"Big Red wrote:

Now that we have added a 5th round pick by trading Ginn I thought it would be intetesting to look at potential prospects. Here is my list. It includes guys who may slide, guys who should definitely be there, and maybe a couple who might even be there in the 6th round.

QB John Skelton 6-6 243 Fordham 4.85 NO
QB Jarrett Brown 6-3 224 WVU 4.50 NO
QB/WR Joe Webb 6-4 223 UAB 4.49 Maybe as a WR
WR Dezmon Briscoe 6-2 207 Kansas 4.66 Eh, wouldn't be upset but prefer others
WR Mike Williams 6-2 221 Syracuse 4.53 Fine spot for him
WR Emmanuel Sanders 5-11 186 SMU 4.40 No
RB Lonyae Miller 6-0 221 Fresno State 4.43 Would be good pick I think
RB LeGarrette Blount 6-1 241 Oregon 4.70 No
TE Andrew Quarless 6-5 254 Penn State 4.68 YES
OG Zane Beadles 6-5 310 Utah 5.28 Nah
OG Marshall Newhouse 6-4 319 TCU 4.99 Nah
OG Ciron Black 6-5 327 LSU 5.53 Nah
NT Jeff Owens 6-1 304 Georgia 4.97 Maybe
OLB George Johnson 6-5 268 Rutgers 4.78 Maybe
OLB Arthur Moats 6-0 246 James Madison 4.64 Yes, but I think he goes earlier
OLB Kevin Basped 6-5 258 Nevada 4.75 No
ILB Perry Riley 6-1 239 LSU 4.69 No
ILB Rennie Curran 5-11 235 Georgia 4.75 I think he's good but not for our D
ILB Pat Angerer 6-0 235 Iowa 4.71 No
CB Alterraun Verner 5-10 189 UCLA 4.52 Maybe
SS Kurt Coleman 5-10 192 Ohio State 4.56 No
SS Larry Asante 6-0 212 Nebraska 4.62 No

Who do you like?

My opinion in bold.

"Big Red wrote:

Now that we have added a 5th round pick by trading Ginn I thought it would be intetesting to look at potential prospects. Here is my list. It includes guys who may slide, guys who should definitely be there, and maybe a couple who might even be there in the 6th round.

QB John Skelton 6-6 243 Fordham 4.85 Our Quarter back need is on Full
QB Jarrett Brown 6-3 224 WVU 4.50 If we didnt have Pat White Id Want Him
QB/WR Joe Webb 6-4 223 UAB 4.49 Same For Jarrett Brown

WR Dezmon Briscoe 6-2 207 Kansas 4.66 Oh Gosh Not Another Ted Ginn
WR Mike Williams 6-2 221 Syracuse 4.53 Make Him Happy He'll play well
WR Emmanuel Sanders 5-11 186 SMU 4.40 Slot Type Receiver Dont Want em
RB Lonyae Miller 6-0 221 Fresno State 4.43 Doesnt Break Enough Tackles as he should
RB LeGarrette Blount 6-1 241 Oregon 4.70 Hee Hee He Punched That Guy
TE Andrew Quarless 6-5 254 Penn State 4.68 I like em
OG Zane Beadles 6-5 310 Utah 5.28 No
OG Marshall Newhouse 6-4 319 TCU 4.99 No
OG Ciron Black 6-5 327 LSU 5.53 No
NT Jeff Owens 6-1 304 Georgia 4.97 I Want Him! He wont play every down but good pass rusher
OLB George Johnson 6-5 268 Rutgers 4.78 Know Very Little about him Heard he had alot of injuries so no
OLB Arthur Moats 6-0 246 James Madison 4.64 I like him but he might miss too many tackles due to the angles he takes against the run
OLB Kevin Basped 6-5 258 Nevada 4.75 No
ILB Perry Riley 6-1 239 LSU 4.69 Eh hes a ?
ILB Rennie Curran 5-11 235 Georgia 4.75 I like em
ILB Pat Angerer 6-0 235 Iowa 4.71 I like em too good prospect
CB Alterraun Verner 5-10 189 UCLA 4.52 Special Teams Type Guy So No
SS Kurt Coleman 5-10 192 Ohio State 4.56 Another ?
SS Larry Asante 6-0 212 Nebraska 4.62 One of My Favorite Strong Safety of the Draft Hes a Strikahhh!

Who do you like?

Yeah Those are my opinions

I think Joe Webb makes the transition to Wr very well.....

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

I think Joe Webb makes the transition to Wr very well.....

I do too but u already know that. :-)

Akwasi Owusu-Ansah not able to make the list?

"Den54 wrote:

Akwasi Owusu-Ansah not able to make the list?

NFLDS ranks him 69th overall now.

"PHINANALYST wrote:

Lang / Edds also crops in here if either is still available

Good call on A.J. Edds. I should have included him. :up:

"MrClean wrote:

My votes in bold above.

"Stitches wrote:

My opinion in bold.

"princekong2 wrote:

Yeah Those are my opinions

Here are some of my thoughts.

I wouldn't take John Skelton or Jarrett Brown in the 5th round but I really like Joe Webb. However I don't know much about Skelton. He could turn out to be great. I hate the idea of using a pick on Brown after taking Pat White last year. Webb is a beast. I like him as a trigger man for the Wildcat and as a developmental wideout.

I am not sure I would take a chance on Dezmon Briscoe or Mike Williams in the 5th. Not after we just got Brandon Marshall. We don't need to take that chance so why do it? I should have included Antonio Brown because I actually like him better than Emmanuel Sanders but both of them are good candidates to take over Ginn's return duties.

I like LeGarrette Blount a lot. However the lack of speed could be a problem. Not as big a fan of Lonyae Miller but I read that many scouts like his potential.

I would pass on Andrew Quarless but somebody told me that he was not used to his full potential at Penn State. Is that an excuse or a reason? I don't know.

Zane Beadles and Ciron Black are limited but they have potential. I would not be surprised if we drafted Marshall Newhouse in the 4th round.

Jeff Owens could be the pick. He did not flash when I watched him last year but as a space-eating nose tackle he might be all right. The triumvirate seems to be very high on him and they certainly got a good look at him at the Senior Bowl.

If we take an outside linebacker in the 1st round I doubt we will take George Johnson, Arthur Moats, or Kevin Basped. However Edds is a different matter. His ability to cover tight ends is certainly appealing and an area we could definitely use improvement.

I like Perry Riley and Rennie Curran more than Pat Angerer but Mayock likes Angerer. Probably doesn't matter because every year there is a linebacker or two that I really like in the late rounds and Ireland never drafts them. I don't know why this year would be any different. :lol:

Alterraun Verner is very good in coverage. He could be excellent in the nickel and dime. However I would prefer a cornerback who can also return kicks.

Kurt Coleman is a football player. Period. It would not surprise me if we took him with one of our 6th round picks. The 5th might be a little high. However there is a good chance he won't be there in the 6th.

"Big Red wrote:

Good call on A.J. Edds. I should have included him. :up:

Here are some of my thoughts.

I wouldn't take John Skelton or Jarrett Brown in the 5th round but I really like Joe Webb. However I don't know much about Skelton. He could turn out to be great. I hate the idea of using a pick on Brown after taking Pat White last year. Webb is a beast. I like him as a trigger man for the Wildcat and as a developmental wideout.

I am not sure I would take a chance on Dezmon Briscoe or Mike Williams in the 5th. Not after we just got Brandon Marshall. We don't need to take that chance so why do it? I should have included Antonio Brown because I actually like him better than Emmanuel Sanders but both of them are good candidates to take over Ginn's return duties.

I like LeGarrette Blount a lot. However the lack of speed could be a problem. Not as big a fan of Lonyae Miller but I read that many scouts like his potential.

I would pass on Andrew Quarless but somebody told me that he was not used to his full potential at Penn State. Is that an excuse or a reason? I don't know.

Zane Beadles and Ciron Black are limited but they have potential. I would not be surprised if we drafted Marshall Newhouse in the 4th round.

Jeff Owens could be the pick. He did not flash when I watched him last year but as a space-eating nose tackle he might be all right. The triumvirate seems to be very high on him and they certainly got a good look at him at the Senior Bowl.

If we take an outside linebacker in the 1st round I doubt we will take George Johnson, Arthur Moats, or Kevin Basped. However Edds is a different matter. His ability to cover tight ends is certainly appealing and an area we could definitely use improvement.

I like Perry Riley and Rennie Curran more than Pat Angerer but Mayock likes Angerer. Probably doesn't matter because every year there is a linebacker or two that I really like in the late rounds and Ireland never drafts them. I don't know why this year would be any different. :lol:

Alterraun Verner is very good in coverage. He could be excellent in the nickel and dime. However I would prefer a cornerback who can also return kicks.

Kurt Coleman is a football player. Period. It would not surprise me if we took him with one of our 6th round picks. The 5th might be a little high. However there is a good chance he won't be there in the 6th.

It's an excuse and a reason. He got himself in JoePa's doghouse (of which it is very difficult to get out of), but he is far more talented than even his production shows.

"Big Red wrote:

WR Dezmon Briscoe 6-2 207 Kansas 4.66
WR Mike Williams 6-2 221 Syracuse 4.53
WR Emmanuel Sanders 5-11 186 SMU 4.40
RB LeGarrette Blount 6-1 241 Oregon 4.70
TE Andrew Quarless 6-5 254 Penn State 4.68
NT Jeff Owens 6-1 304 Georgia 4.97

...stand out to me. Quarless is on my wish list if we don't go TE earlier. Jeff Owens too.

"Stitches wrote:

It's an excuse and a reason. He got himself in JoePa's doghouse (of which it is very difficult to get out of), but he is far more talented than even his production shows.

I thought it was you! :lol:

Yeah if you are right then Quarless could turn out to be a steal in the 5th round.

Personally I don't see us taking a tight end unless one slides. For example if Jimmy Graham, Ed Dickson, or Dennis Pitta were on the board at #145 it would be too good to pass up.

If its me I am drafting Antonio Brown.

After that I like Joe Webb, LeGarrette Blount, Marshall Newhouse, and Kurt Coleman. If I am predicting I would guess Jeff Owens.

Another guy I should mention is Syd'Quan Thompson. I could see him being our pick. We would not have to dress our fifth wideout to return kicks and he could play in the nickel and dime packages. Thompson did not have an impressive senior year but if you consider his body of work overall he has the look of a sleeper. He would never start but if he can be effective in the nickel and takes one to the house every now and then what more can you ask?

Assuming we don't draft Javier Arenas in the 3rd or 4th round of course. :up:

"Big Red wrote:

Another guy I should mention is Syd'Quan Thompson. I could see him being our pick. We would not have to dress our fifth wideout to return kicks and he could play in the nickel and dime packages. Thompson did not have an impressive senior year but if you consider his body of work overall he has the look of a sleeper. He would never start but if he can be effective in the nickel and takes one to the house every now and then what more can you ask?

Assuming we don't draft Javier Arenas in the 3rd or 4th round of course. :up:

Thompson is so tiny and physically unimpressive (measurements I mean) I have a hard time seeing this FO drafting him.

I wouldn't want a guy who would never start at CB. I'd rather roll the dice on Ben Burney from Colorado who was a solid tackler in college and has good size and great athleticism.

"Conuficus wrote:

Andrew Quarless and Jeff Owens are the two best players on the board there IMO.

i would add emmanuel sanders but he would be behind owens and quarless

"Big Red wrote:

TE Andrew Quarless 6-5 254 Penn State 4.68

Who do you like?

This guy. I went to PSU for two and a half years, though now I am currently going to school in Vermont. Still have a weak spot for my nittany lions.:up: