Porter resented losing snaps to Cam Wake

Someone needs to remind porter that he's 32 years old and not 27. God forbid we put some youth on the field.

Usually, I'm in favor of veterans playing, but Cameron Wake came through at the end of several games this season with sacks. In very limited time, he accumulated more than half of the sacks of our sack leader.

I want to keep Porter. I do, personally. Though, it sounds like he's just protecting himself from GMs believing he's slowing down.

Wake must be seriously antisocial for no one to support his accomplishments in all of this.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

Someone needs to remind porter that he's 32 years old and not 27. God forbid we put some youth on the field.

Exactly, Peezy is "right" he was our best Will last season, I mean Charlie Anderson?

Really?

Wake is a work in progress as well, but what JP is doing is basically trying to force his release so he can sign a FA deal in an uncapped year, one last bite at the apple if you will.

I'm a huge Cameron Wake homer as my sigline suggests, but playing fulltime OLB right now would require a heck of alot of improvement on his part in one offseason.

We lose JP we almost HAVE to sign JT or Draft someone or whatever, if Cam Wake flames out at OLB Charlie Anderson is not keeping Qb's up late at night we will need someone else.

"emocomputerjock wrote:

Wake must be seriously antisocial for no one to support his accomplishments in all of this.

I made that point once up in Club, early in the year when Wake was going well, like the Bills game, none of the other Lb's celebrated with him when he got those 3 sacks, only Randy Starks.

"padre31 wrote:

I made that point once up in Club, early in the year when Wake was going well, like the Bills game, none of the other Lb's celebrated with him when he got those 3 sacks, only Randy Starks.

Was that you? Didn't seem like much at the time, but it's looking pretty spot on now. Something's obviously going on behind the scenes there.

I can't find it but I remember there being reports about it. if you have it bookmarked let me know because I want to go back and read it now!

I just listened to the interview on WQAM and it isn't pleasant.

Porter pretty much strips it bare , he doesn't respect his coach , his focus is on #55 , he prefers to be out west ( SD AZ SF ), wants to be with a 3/4 team, and there is real deep animosity here.

He told Channing Crowder , in response to the question , what would you have to be told to make you want to be back , he clearly stated he wouldn't believe what Sporano would tell him.

This is a player who wants OUT , and has facilitated that outcome.

"dolfan22 wrote:

I just listened to the interview on WQAM and it isn't pleasant.

Porter pretty much strips it bare , he doesn't respect his coach , his focus is on #55 , he prefers to be out west ( SD AZ SF ), wants to be with a 3/4 team, and there is real deep animosity here.

He told Channing Crowder , in response to the question , what would you have to be told to make you want to be back , he clearly stated he wouldn't believe what Sporano would tell him.

This is a player who wants OUT , and has facilitated that outcome.

Exactly, he said some other things as well, the problem is imho Cam Wake is just not ready to step in for Porter at Linebacker.

We simply must have insurance at OLB.

"dolfan22 wrote:

I just listened to the interview on WQAM and it isn't pleasant.

Porter pretty much strips it bare , he doesn't respect his coach , his focus is on #55 , he prefers to be out west ( SD AZ SF ), wants to be with a 3/4 team, and there is real deep animosity here.

He told Channing Crowder , in response to the question , what would you have to be told to make you want to be back , he clearly stated he wouldn't believe what Sporano would tell him.

This is a player who wants OUT , and has facilitated that outcome.

if that's true then i say we fire sale his *** and trade him for whatever the raiders are willing to give. That way he gets out west but doesnt land on a contender at all. He gets his cake but doesn't get to eat it too.

"CitizenSnips wrote:

if that's true then i say we fire sale his *** and trade him for whatever the raiders are willing to give. That way he gets out west but doesnt land on a contender at all. He gets his cake but doesn't get to eat it too.

I don't care about punishing Porter. I would want value, whether its a Superbowl contender or cellar dweller.

"emocomputerjock wrote:

Wake must be seriously antisocial for no one to support his accomplishments in all of this.

seems to me that Wake is focused on football and not socializing. that would make him not one of the boys. Crowder needs to be more of a team player and realize his buddy isn't the player he used to be. I have enjoyed Porter until this season, now I say get rid of this cancer before he really destroys this team.

Porter should wake up and smell the coffee. He suffered from two injuries and it showed. He wasn't as explosive as last year. Cam Wake was our best pass rusher. Wake had 20 QB pressure while Porter only had 11. Wake had 6 QB hits, Porter 5. Wake only had 2 sacks less than Porter. Difference being? Wake played 167 snaps, Porter played 755... The coaching staff had every reason to give Wake some snaps over Porter. All this proves is Porter isn't a leader, and isn't a team player. He wants to go to a 3-4 team out west, I'd love nothing more than to ship him to a 4-3 team here in the east. As long as he isn't playing for NE or the Jets I'm happy, sure don't want him going to a rival because I'm positive he can still be a 10+ sack guy easily.

"padre31 wrote:

Exactly, he said some other things as well, the problem is imho Cam Wake is just not ready to step in for Porter at Linebacker.

We simply must have insurance at OLB.

Patience padre, the draft is not until the end of April.

"padre31 wrote:

Exactly, he said some other things as well, the problem is imho Cam Wake is just not ready to step in for Porter at Linebacker.

We simply must have insurance at OLB.

Good. Hello Brandon Graham :up:

"DOLPHAN1 wrote:

seems to me that Wake is focused on football and not socializing. that would make him not one of the boys. Crowder needs to be more of a team player and realize his buddy isn't the player he used to be. I have enjoyed Porter until this season, now I say get rid of this cancer before he really destroys this team.

I'm with you there, I liked Porter, but he clearly has made a decision to move out of Miami and he does not care what he has to do to leave.

Interesting thought but those teams who made the final 8 in the playoffs would be a landing spot for him, they have that injunction against Signing FA's, but they can trade for whomever they wish.

Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, All of our receivers, Chad Henne... not even our defensive linemen complain about splitting time a lot more than Porter had.

I think Padre is right. Joey Porter could be simply looking for another payday.

He's a punk of a human being and the level of class on this team will rise significantly the day he's no longer a part of it.

"R&R Express wrote:

Porter should wake up and smell the coffee. He suffered from two injuries and it showed. He wasn't as explosive as last year. Cam Wake was our best pass rusher. Wake had 20 QB pressure while Porter only had 11. Wake had 6 QB hits, Porter 5. Wake only had 2 sacks less than Porter. Difference being? Wake played 167 snaps, Porter played 755... The coaching staff had every reason to give Wake some snaps over Porter. All this proves is Porter isn't a leader, and isn't a team player. He wants to go to a 3-4 team out west, I'd love nothing more than to ship him to a 4-3 team here in the east. As long as he isn't playing for NE or the Jets I'm happy, sure don't want him going to a rival because I'm positive he can still be a 10+ sack guy easily.

I think this sums it up really well.

Maybe this controversy was one of the many reasons our defense was so god awful this year. Hopefully once he's gone, this crap is over and our defense can concentrate on football.

Porter, IMO, was useless this year and I'd say at least 4 of his sacks were clear cut coverage sacks. I'll take 3 less sacks from a guy with a little less talent than Porter, his mouth, and huge contract any day.

This is why there is an old saying:

Better to let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and prove them right.

Porter is jealous, he sees the writing on the wall and last time I checked both JP and JT have had their "I am infinitely important" days over the course of their career.

We'll trade him, but he just garaunteed he won't get his wish, they will trade him to somewhere that will humble him, like GB for instance. This regime held onto Jason Taylor until it met their needs, what Taylor wanted could have been written on a cocktail napkin for all they cared. Peezy will go nuts with this FO, he can't do anything else, his leverage is meager at best in a draft year with good 3-4 OLB prospects.

I'm curious what would he get on the free agent market?

I guess Porter got caught in the Wake.

The funniest thing I have heard from Porter hrough out all his comments was when eh told Rome that he was a team player. Really, how many "team players" through their teammates under the bus like that? How many team players don't come out of the game when their coach askes them to?

I didn't like how Crowder was on Porter's side.

Bye Porter,time for our Fins to move on. We are trying to develop a winning culture in Miami,and build it on a team,this means we only need team players.