Playing Down to Inferior Opponents

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GalantGalantforum_veteranOP
Dec 1, 2014, 09:06 PM

Wondering if, in games the Dolphins could think, "Hey we're gonna beat these guys!", the coaches are all about, "Calm down, don't underestimate them, we have to respect them." True enough, at times, but then again, there are other times, where you need to say, "You know what? Yeah, we are going to beat these guys. Let's get out there and destroy them! Put them down!"

Just seems the Dolphins don't know who they are, don't come out the gate on fire.

Maybe it's just me.


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

DestroyerDestroyerforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 09:10 PM

It's called bad coaching.

The Dolphins are the softest team in the NFL. Tua hater starting 12/11/22.

Alex13Alex13subscriber
Dec 1, 2014, 09:12 PM

there are 3 quarters left to play can you stay behind your team or gtfo

FIFin4Eversubscriber
Dec 1, 2014, 09:12 PM

Damn it is just frustrating..the coaching staff on Defense and for along time I have wanted 2 Beasts DT's to shut down the run and get pressure up the middle

FIFin4Eversubscriber
Dec 1, 2014, 09:13 PM

Can tell it has got your goat already young fella.

Nappy RootsNappy Rootsforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 09:15 PM

Besides the Bills, Dolphins have blown out all their inferior opponents. Stop it.

muskrat21muskrat21forum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 09:22 PM

it's tannehill's fault.

LBLBsFinestNew Member
Dec 1, 2014, 09:24 PM

Well our coach is Joe Failbin

Vertical LimitVertical Limitforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 09:30 PM

Cant label any team inferior when we are on their level.

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Dec 1, 2014, 09:30 PM

They knew this was coming and couldn't do anything about it. Both the offensive and defensive coaching has been totally inept.

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 10:35 PM

There is no excuse for this defensive performance against the worst offense in the league and Tannehill's performance against one of the worst secondaries in the league isn't much better.

PHPhinsMondayNitroforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 10:42 PM

It's called not executing the gameplan

Da 'FinsDa 'Finsmoderator
Dec 1, 2014, 10:42 PM

It's called the Miami Dolphins every year in the last 25.

Period.

Da 'FinsDa 'Finsmoderator
Dec 1, 2014, 10:44 PM

Way to go Coyle.

Da 'FinsDa 'Finsmoderator
Dec 1, 2014, 10:46 PM

I cannot imagine any owner (other than Ross) not looking at this game at this point in the season and not thinking, "This head coach is done."

I would lobby for the OC to stay - with whomever the new HC is - but there is no way you retain Philbin if we lose this game. We will have 6 losses and no way we win the next 4. It's also a Division game. Against a 2-9 team.

Da 'FinsDa 'Finsmoderator
Dec 1, 2014, 10:48 PM

Such a poor game plan for a big game with extra days to prep

vt_dolfanvt_dolfansubscriber
Dec 1, 2014, 10:53 PM

Wondering how many Dolphins Jets games the OP has watched. Better get used to it.

"The more difficult the victory, the greater the happiness in winning"
Pele

GalantGalantforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 11:27 PM

This season we've done well in a couple of games against inferior opponent but when you factor in last year too I think you see something that goes beyond any possible lack of talent etc. There's a mentality issue.


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

GalantGalantforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 11:29 PM

"Da 'Fins wrote:

I cannot imagine any owner (other than Ross) not looking at this game at this point in the season and not thinking, "This head coach is done."

I would lobby for the OC to stay - with whomever the new HC is - but there is no way you retain Philbin if we lose this game. We will have 6 losses and no way we win the next 4. It's also a Division game. Against a 2-9 team.

Problem is you can't bring in a new HC and force him to accept an OC (and I'd argue GM). It might happen that the new guy wants to keep the OC but not likely. The only way, now, to ditch Philbin and keep Lazor and Hickey is to promote Lazor. Not sold on that being a great idea though.

This is another downside of all those half-hearted changes and no cleaning house.


"Although we are capable of great acts of kindness, history teaches us that we sometimes need saving from ourselves – from our recklessness or our greed. God sent into the world a unique person – neither a philosopher nor a general, important though they are, but a Saviour, with the power to forgive... It is my prayer that on this Christmas day we might all find room in our lives for the message of the angels and for the love of God through Christ our Lord." (Christmas message, 2011)

PAPaulyforum_veteran
Dec 1, 2014, 11:38 PM

Actually this is similar to us using the wildcat the first time we rolled it out. The jets gameplan was true 1930s football. No shame being caught be surprise by the Jets gameplan.

seriously Geno Smith only had 8 pass attempts before their last drive, and we all saw what happened the one time the Jets had to pass the ball.
Meanwhile running the ball so extensively after they had a lead forced the phins into throwing more than they would like because of the clock, allowing the Jets to tee off in pass defence mode.

Ryan's wacky game plan deserves some credit. OK I'd like for our coaches to have responded quicker but the players stayed in the game and didn't give up like they would have last year.

rdhstlr23rdhstlr23subscriber
Dec 1, 2014, 11:45 PM

We won. We played like crap but the Jets came to play. Give them credit. I don't care. We are 7-5 and in the driver's seat.

rtl1334rtl1334New Member
Dec 1, 2014, 11:49 PM

The Jets came to play. They had an innovative gameplan that was stalled in the second half. They dropped a lot into coverage that limited our intermediate game.

T-Hill had a gritty performance. He wasn't helped by either Wallace or Miller but he gutted it out with a (potentially) season defining strike to Sims.

Sometimes you just have to grind it out, get the W and forget about it.

DisgustipateDisgustipatesubscriber
Dec 2, 2014, 12:01 AM

Seriously? There are people describing the Jets game plan as "innovating" and a surprise?

They took the Broncos gameplan, and added some wide receiver run elements. Which even then isn't a ****ing surprise considering they've been doing it for several weeks now. Kevin Coyle knew goddamned well what was coming and still managed to get caught with his pants down for most of the game.

Meanwhile, you've got a reversion to the at this point fairly classic Joe Philbin tactic of retreating into your shell and playing small ball after any sort of mistake or adversity in a close, slow-paced game. That is of course until you've managed to whittle your time and effort down into that last single drive which has now become do or do.

They did a **** job coaching and escaped largely by virtue of playing a team made of it themselves.

DPlus47DPlus47subscriber
Dec 2, 2014, 12:05 AM

I understand the frustration, but rivalry games are a different beast. The Jets did seem to have a game plan straight out of 1973, with a few twists. Happy with the victory.

GARDENHEADGARDENHEADsubscriber
Dec 2, 2014, 12:05 AM

"Nappy Roots wrote:

Besides the Bills, Dolphins have blown out all their inferior opponents. Stop it.

This. THIS! THIS! THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tanking is like taking a Greyhound bus cross-country. Sure, it may eventually get you where you want to go, but it’s messy and unpleasant and uncomfortable, it stinks, the entire time you’ll be wishing you weren’t there, and not everybody along for the ride is going to make it to the end. - Quote stolen from Deadspin