Players favor Philbin, Tanny not so much??

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

In regards to what was actually said....

Philbin does strike me as a players coach, much like Wanny and Sparano. Most locker rooms are tight, so this isn't all that surprising. In regards to some players not supporting Ryan, Iam puzzled as to why...is it his lack of emotion?? No idea, I certainly doubt the players feel like they are losing because of Ryan as someone suggested. But, Iam curious as to why there may be be some distain towards 17.

I think the defense is getting sick and tired of taking all the blame for those close losses. After the Detroit game Coyle said something like: after we got the 3 and out I thought we did have the game won...

Those are team losses so I don't want to get into that debate but a lot of people are more than willing to shovel 100% of the blame on whoever was on the field last. And the only way to argue that position is to point out that the QB could have done a little bit more to seal the game when he had the ball, like other QBs do sometimes.

"roy_miami wrote:

I think the defense is getting sick and tired of taking all the blame for those close losses. After the Detroit game Coyle said something like: after we got the 3 and out I thought we did have the game won...

Those are team losses so I don't want to get into that debate but a lot of people are more than willing to shovel 100% of the blame on whoever was on the field last. And the only way to argue that position is to point out that the QB could have done a little bit more to seal the game when he had the ball, like other QBs do sometimes.

For the record, I agree 100% that our closes losses are as much to do with the inconsistency and occasional ineptitude of our offense as they are the defense. However, running the ball was an issue late in games and we often failed to protect Tannehill sufficiently on those crucial drives in which the offense could not move the ball.

At the end of the day, our opponents were able to stuff the run and pressure Tannehill when they absolutely had to which should tell us all that we're not that great at this point.

Rather than make excuses and point to scapegoats, it's much easier to simply point to the fact that we're not good enough to beat the Broncos and Packers at this point.

No matter how close we were to doing it, those scenarios will remain a fluke until we solidify the interior of our O-line with better Guards.

Keep in mind that Miko is not only his wife, but also his agent.

If Cam Wake's agent came out and said that everyone loves Philbin and hates Tanny, I think there's a good chance you'd need to first look at what Wake had to gain from the statement rather than immediately putting stock in what the agent had to say.

"3Pmi wrote:

Keep in mind that Miko is not only his wife, but also his agent.

If Cam Wake's agent came out and said that everyone loves Philbin and hates Tanny, I think there's a good chance you'd need to first look at what Wake had to gain from the statement rather than immediately putting stock in what the agent had to say.

That is an excellent point. I'm not sure what Grimes would have to gain.

"schmolioot wrote:

How will anybody be dead wrong if he's the coach?

Nobody knows what Ross will do. We're all just giving opinions.

And Miko may be repeating what she heard exactly. And that makes what difference? It doesn;t surprise me that Philbin has some supporters on the team. He's a nice guy, fairly easy going. Doesn't yell and scream. You can play like crap and not get benched most of the time. You don't seem to have much pressure put on you to win, or even compete.

And then when you add to that, that the next coach is likely to be an ass kicker, it's not surprising that some players prefer the comfortable status quo.

This.

Philbin is the guy that we were initially enamored with when he kept stating how simple the game of football is.
So simple that they don't need to practice that hard, get riled up or worry about their job security if they don't perform. Exhibit 1A, Dallas Thomas.

"Larry Little wrote:

For our many 'forum experts', it's standard operating procedure. Opinions are stated as fact. Anyone who disagrees is belittled. Anyone who agrees is exalted. They pat themselves furiously on the back when they turn out correct, and they never, ever... EVER... admit when they are wrong.

Oh... and they ALWAYS know better than the 'morons'. :lol:

No pun intended? :shifty:

"Larry Little wrote:

This is the kind of stuff that irks me. My guess is, you have absolutely NO CLUE as to what Odrick was yelling about. He could have been yelling about the defensive scheme, or Coyle, or Jimmy Wilson, or Tannehill, or the equipment manager for all you know. I think you don't like Philbin, you saw Odrick barking, and you filled in the blanks with your own assumptions.

You brought it up, so I'm going to ask... do you know, for a fact, what Odrick was yelling about or are you just talking out of your butt?

Then too the degree of Odrick's upset was blown out of proportion as well. Before I saw it, it was posted here that Odrick really exploded at Philbin. Then the gif shows he is jawing, but no clue why or about what exactly.

"Larry Little wrote:

Read what I said again:

"I'm as upset as anyone that the Phins are very likely going to miss the playoffs again..."

You're just mad and you want to argue.

He probably just broke open a fresh bottle of Wild Turkey and had a few pulls. :lol:

Miko has more insight on the Dolphins then every person that post on this forum, whether you like her or not, just saying...

"3Pmi wrote:

Keep in mind that Miko is not only his wife, but also his agent.

If Cam Wake's agent came out and said that everyone loves Philbin and hates Tanny, I think there's a good chance you'd need to first look at what Wake had to gain from the statement rather than immediately putting stock in what the agent had to say.

Grimes' agent is Tom Condon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Condon

I have no problem with Miko voicing Her opinion. I just realize that older players like Grimes and Wake are going to be supportive of this coaching staff because they have a lot to lose if a new head coach comes in and decides to go with younger players.

Both Wake and Grimes would certainly be able to sign with another team, but the money might not be as good and they both would have to relocate again in the twilight of their careers.

As far as Miko's insinuation that some players question Tannehill's ability as a starting QB. I think that only goes along with many of us on this forum. After nearly three years and no playoff appearances as the starting QB of the Dolphins, we will enter year four of the Tannehill experiment next year, still unclear if he is the long term answer for the Dolphins at the QB position or not.

A lot of questions concerning many of the players on this roster need to be resolved before the beginning of next season and that includes Tannehill. Whether Miko and her husband are happy about it or not, those questioned will likely be answered by a Dolphins head coach, not named Philbin.

I actually like Miko. That being said, she is trying to get a Media career started so going on the BigO show and not being supportive of Tannekill is not really that surprising.

By the way if Miko is right then the players are seeing what everyone with a brain is seeing, Tannehill missing open receivers and big plays.

"3Pmi wrote:

Keep in mind that Miko is not only his wife, but also his agent.

If Cam Wake's agent came out and said that everyone loves Philbin and hates Tanny, I think there's a good chance you'd need to first look at what Wake had to gain from the statement rather than immediately putting stock in what the agent had to say.

She's not his agent. That's ignorant.

Shame on anyone who thinks this attention whore's comments mean anything and shame on the interviewers for giving her a forum in which she can affect the team locker room.

May I remind you that Big O is the biggest Tanne"KILL" detractor in this entire market, and he is the only one that puts her on the air. He lead her to HIS subject matter, and she gave him non answers to appease.

Could not be more transparent. The rest of it is the simple finger pointing that always occurs when you lose.

She just needs to take a hint from Grimes infamous birthday cake.

"Section126 wrote:

May I remind you that Big O is the biggest Tanne"KILL" detractor in this entire market, and he is the only one that puts her on the air. He lead her to HIS subject matter, and she gave him non answers to appease.

Could not be more transparent. The rest of it is the simple finger pointing that always occurs when you lose.

Omar and her do a show together.

"MonstBlitz wrote:

Shame on anyone who thinks this attention whore's comments mean anything and shame on the interviewers for giving her a forum in which she can affect the team locker room.

That's pretty harsh. You're calling a good man's wife a whore. That ain't cool.

"Fin D wrote:

That's pretty harsh. You're calling a good man's wife a whore. That ain't cool.

You know damn well calling a woman or man for that matter an attention whore is entirely different from calling someone a whore.

"MonstBlitz wrote:

You know damn well calling a woman or man for that matter an attention whore is entirely different from calling someone a whore.

Pretty sure you called her a whore bro, not nice.

I'm not sure she got anything for it. Maybe just an attention slut?

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Pretty sure you called her a whore bro, not nice.

Once again, I called her an "attention whore". For those of you not privy to the definition of the term, I refer you to Urban Dictionary -

Label given to any person who craves attention to such an extent that they will do anything to receive it. The type of attention (negative or positive) does not matter.

I am not speaking on her promiscuity, as far as I know the only sex she craves is from Brent Grimes.

"Vertical Limit wrote:

By the way if Miko is right then the players are seeing what everyone with a brain is seeing, Tannehill missing open receivers and big plays.

:shifty: Except when he hits people in the hands for touchdowns at least 3-4 times. Stick to bashing the heat. Clueless when it comes to football.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I love Brent Grimes and think Miko is funny, but their "crowd" is mostly the idiots and ****-ups on the roster. They're real big Mike Pouncey fans.

The person who listened to the Big O to get this information should probably be getting a medal of honor though.

Thank you Disgust, I had a really good laugh from this.

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

I do wonder how much Brent really tells her considering he has to know she will talk... A lot.

I believe he'd tell her anything........to get her to shut up. Kind of like a water torture or something.