Phins Cap Confusion

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  1. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

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  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Heh, for 7 Million and 5 Million Carey and Crowder can definitely be restructured. Or depending on the cap hit, flat out cut. I like Carey and Id like to bring him back in the 4-4.5M range where his performance really says he belongs. Hes not as bad as people make him out to be but hes certainly not an elite RT either.

    Crowder....cya. Never been a fan. Good run plugger but thats about it..couldnt force a turnover if his life depended on it.
     
  3. rafael

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    It's not really that different from what we expected. They just include the exemptions so the number seems bigger at first. We should end up somewhere between $10-$15 mill available. I still expect the following:

    Pass rusher: Ray Edwards has been the name that we've been hearing.
    RB: DWill or Bradshaw depending on cost or down one tier to Sproles or Bush.
    QB: I expect one vet like Moore, Young or Jackson. Also either Froman or Camp.
    G: I have no idea whom.
     
  4. Southbeach

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    I totaled all the money committed for this year, and came up with $103M, without Soliai's $12 M. Then, someone at ESPN had $103.1M, same deal. On Sunday, Barry Jackson said we had $12M to spend. Now, it could be $20-$25M. It is confusing, and I hate posting wrong info.
     
  5. rafael

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    If you start at a cap number of between $127 - $130 mill. and take your $103 figure that leaves you with $24 - $27 mill available. Then you put in the allocated draft pick money. Once that's put in you end up in the $10 - $15 range (you had said we had $12 to work with IIRC). You can't be more exact than that at this point b/c some of the available numbers aren't exact, their range estimates.
     
  6. ckparrothead

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    Are you accounting for Paul Soliai's franchise tag money?
     
  7. rafael

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    Technically it's not my accounting. I'm just looking at the various numbers posted (I didn't look up and add up the contracts myself), but my understanding is that those numbers include Soliai's $12 mill. If so, we should have a bit more once a long term deal is reached with PS.
     
  8. Southbeach

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    Based on the cap being $120-$123M, which was reported by NFL and ESPN, and adding in Solia, I had $5-$8M available. Barry had $12M, and he has been overly reliable, and has much more access to info than I do.

    Now, that number is doubled. I'm not aware of the credits and exemptions.

    All I'm saying is that I'm gonna wait a couple of days, to get things exact, before posting any mis-information for hundreds of Phans to read, and speculate on.
     
  9. ckparrothead

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    Well I have to sort of agree with raf here then because my impression was that once Soliai was accounted for the Dolphins would have about $12 million in cap space, and now Volin has broken it down in more detail and concluded the Dolphins will have about $10 to $15 million in cap space after signing rookies and EFAs/RFAs. That's actually a little bit more money than I thought they'd have but not much.

    IF they give Soliai a long term deal, it seems like it might be enough to get what they want...an impact QB, an impact RB and an impact pass rusher. Giving Soliai a long term deal should make that $10-15 range shoot up to $16-24 depending on how they structure Soliai's deal. I think that would be enough to grab an Ahmad Bradshaw, Antwan Barnes and (insert QB here).
     
  10. rafael

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    My point is that the PBP article was basing it on a $130 mill. cap so it's not surprising that their amount of available cap space was higher.
     
  11. Southbeach

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    I completely understand, and could not be happier that we have more to spend. All I'm saying is that I want to know the exact numbers before speculating any further.
     
  12. padre31

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    We do not have enough money to do all of that Rafi, not and to sign quality/proven Vets.

    Qb and Rb both will cost 9-12 million per yr for even decent quality, let alone a G like Colledge.
     
  13. Southbeach

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    Young want $8-10M a year on a long term contract. LOL, and Lot's Of Luck.
     
  14. finsbuck719

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    Are we going to be able to restructure Soliai's deal? I'd like something along the lines of 4yr/22 mil or so. If we can do that and restructure either Carey's or Crowder's deal, then I think we should spend our money on a RB (D-Will, Bradshaw, Sproles, or Bush), pass rusher (preferably Barnes or Lawson), and roster fillers. Then use the extra spare money for Wake/Langford and next free agency.
     
  15. Ozzy

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    9 million for the only Qb that looks available to us? No thanks Vince! Take that somewhere else cause you have yet to earn it.

    Rb's are not worth 12 million either...

    BUT with a decent signing bonus they can work around the salaries.
     
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